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01-29-2013, 02:45 AM
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It's legal. The puck never went backwards.
It should be illegal. Most spinoramas should be illegal too, imo, but they set the precedence and allowed it.

Here's an example of a spinorama I do think is good.



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01-29-2013, 02:46 AM
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Here it is, btw:


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01-29-2013, 03:53 AM
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What about Booth?

Kassian
Burrows
Booth/Shroeder



Booth is an interesting one, he scored a beauty shootout goal that one game last year (probably his best game i think it was against phoenix), then had a shootout chance next game, and had a bad attempt.

Still given what i seen and given our poor shooters, he might be a better option.

This was the good one anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z6Ywqy_s2Y


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01-29-2013, 09:14 AM
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Burrow is our best guy (50%) but needs to be told to just do his one move. That's the only way he scores. Whenever he tries anything else it's a fail.

Kassian is probably 2nd best. Schroeder likely 3rd best. After that it's a total disaster.
Raymond isn't a terrible option, and neither is Kesler, but really there's a significant drop off.

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01-29-2013, 09:19 AM
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Raymond isn't a terrible option, and neither is Kesler, but really there's a significant drop off.
Actually, looking at stats, Lapierre seems to be quite good. He has 4 goals on 8 attempts. I would be curious to see him.

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01-29-2013, 01:49 PM
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WTH aren't the Sedins out there..........I don't care what their record is,get off their as s ses and practice.

Christ they're the team leaders and they're sitting there watching clowns like Edler take shots.

Time for AV to go.

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01-29-2013, 01:56 PM
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I love how everyone is hacking Burrows for this shootout attempt. Another half inch to the right and that was post and in instead of post and out, plus the NHL already came out and said the move was perfectly legal. So how exactly was it an embarrassment? Just because no one had really seen it before?

Looked a hell of a lot better than the other shooters attempts.

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01-29-2013, 02:03 PM
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I love how everyone is hacking Burrows for this shootout attempt. Another half inch to the right and that was post and in instead of post and out, plus the NHL already came out and said the move was perfectly legal. So how exactly was it an embarrassment? Just because no one had really seen it before?

Looked a hell of a lot better than the other shooters attempts.
another half inch to the left and he misses the net completely.

-Gordon Bombay

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01-29-2013, 02:05 PM
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At this point, they should honestly just choose at random.

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01-29-2013, 02:07 PM
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another half inch to the left and he misses the net completely.

-Gordon Bombay
Actually I think Charlie says this to coach Bombay as a reply to a half inch and it would have gone in... Regardless both are wrong, the posts diameter is more than 1 inch...

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Burrows should be an absolute lock for the SO
has a 50% success rate over a large sample

Kassian should be a good bet because his hands are jus right for the shootout and was great in the AHL for them

Raymond- should be a good choice, high career % over large sample

Schroeder should be a good choice- great hands and is playing very well

Kesler- when he is back, always a solid option

Booth- when he is back- another option

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01-29-2013, 02:27 PM
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Actually I think Charlie says this to coach Bombay as a reply to a half inch and it would have gone in... Regardless both are wrong, the posts diameter is more than 1 inch...
lol yeah I think you are right

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01-29-2013, 02:28 PM
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What about Booth?

Kassian
Burrows
Booth/Shroeder
I rather see kesler, hansen, weise before booth

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01-29-2013, 03:22 PM
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I love how everyone is hacking Burrows for this shootout attempt. Another half inch to the right and that was post and in instead of post and out, plus the NHL already came out and said the move was perfectly legal. So how exactly was it an embarrassment? Just because no one had really seen it before?

Looked a hell of a lot better than the other shooters attempts.
Indeed. And it would've looked a lot better if the puck had slid as much as he'd meant it too initially, I'd wager he didn't intend on that extra stickhandle after the spin but just had to after the puck died too close to his body.

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Here it is, btw:

He was just for this move but Quick didn't bite

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01-29-2013, 06:46 PM
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Yes the Canuck's shoot out is a bit of an embarrassment. Compare any of the Canuck's shootouts to Jeff Carters and you'll see how far away they are. There just isn't very good stick handling skills in the Canuck's lineup. In a shortened season shootouts matter and right now Canucks have one of the worst in the league.

As you said Edler is predictable. And Burrows only has fake and backand and goalies know this.

It's like Canuck's hardly ever practice shootouts.

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He was just for this move but Quick didn't bite

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01-29-2013, 06:52 PM
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And Burrows only has fake and backand and goalies know this.
And yet they've still allowed him to score on 47% of his attempts which is one of the best career shootout percentages in the whole league.

The problem with Canucks is AV's selection process. Why is Lapierre hardly ever picked despite being career 50%? Yes he has only tried 8 times but that's still better than Edler.

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01-29-2013, 06:57 PM
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And yet they've still allowed him to score on 47% of his attempts which is one of the best career shootout percentages in the whole league.

The problem with Canucks is AV's selection process. Why is Lapierre hardly ever picked despite being career 50%? Yes he has only tried 8 times but that's still better than Edler.
I thought they were competing for it in practice? I'm not sure where I heard that... but I could have sworn that's what they decided to do.

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01-29-2013, 07:06 PM
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I thought they were competing for it in practice? I'm not sure where I heard that... but I could have sworn that's what they decided to do.
Still a dumb way to decide. They really should just go with career stats since that has been by far the best predictor of success in shootouts. Playing well, having a great shot, being a star, etc. — none of those are as good at predicting shootout success as plain career stats. If I had my team's playoff spot resting on one shootout shot and I could pick Steven Stamkos or Frans Nielsen, I would pick Frans Nielsen.

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Still a dumb way to decide. They really should just go with career stats since that has been by far the best predictor of success in shootouts. Playing well, having a great shot, being a star, etc. none of those are as good at predicting shootout success as plain career stats. If I had my team's playoff spot resting on one shootout shot and I could pick Steven Stamkos or Frans Nielsen, I would pick Frans Nielsen.
I don't think it's dumb... but I wouldn't say it's working

Career average is fine but Edler did have a good career average too before he missed his last 8 (I have no idea if that's true, but it feels like that) Lapierre's average looks more like an anomaly than anything else imo but I guess we could ride him for a while. I'd rather give Schroeder a look.

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Is there any evidence we don't practice, rather than we just suck?

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I love how everyone is hacking Burrows for this shootout attempt.
Except for the fact that we lost, I'm glad it didn't go in. I don't think that move should be legal. That doesn't mean it isn't legal.

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