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01-29-2013, 04:40 PM
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I dunno. It will be interesting for sure.



I don't want to get too excited about Sgarbossa because he was never drafted, and its not often an undrafted player ever makes the NHL, let alone become a Top 6 talent.
Gretzky was never drafted!!!!

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01-29-2013, 04:50 PM
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This call up doesn't make me too optimistic about Landeskog returning soon.

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01-29-2013, 04:53 PM
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Gretzky was never drafted!!!!
Neither was MSL

Why, are you hating on Olver, seph?

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01-29-2013, 05:02 PM
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Never drafted:

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...y.php?pid=4052

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01-29-2013, 05:10 PM
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Eddie Belfour was undrafted as well.

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Poor mans Gustav Nyquist imo.

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01-29-2013, 05:15 PM
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Should have kept Malone up and played him instead of Bordeleau.
Bords has been just fine actually. I like him on the team

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01-29-2013, 05:17 PM
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meh Sgarbossa is just another of our overrated players and is just gonna suck like the others.

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01-29-2013, 05:20 PM
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To everyone talking about Bordy, yeah I agree he has been fine but I feel Malone could bring a lot more to the team especially on the PK.

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01-29-2013, 05:24 PM
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To everyone talking about Bordy, yeah I agree he has been fine but I feel Malone could bring a lot more to the team especially on the PK.
I feel the same way. He hasn't been bad but why do we need someone who throws a couple of hits and plays 4 minutes a game? Malone can be trusted to play more minutes and like you said, he can play on the PK if needed. He doesn't shy away from contact either. He goes hard to the net, he can hit, he can fight, etc. I'd rather have the better hockey player in the line-up.

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01-29-2013, 05:28 PM
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I don't want to get too excited about Sgarbossa because he was never drafted, and its not often an undrafted player ever makes the NHL, let alone become a Top 6 talent.
Happens more frequently than you'd expect. Sgarbossa only went undrafted in his first year of eligibility as well. The Sharks invited him to training camp and liked him so much that they signed him to a contract (there's a short window to sign undrafted North Americans with remaining draft eligibility).

Just scanning last year's top 50 scorers, you had Marty St. Louis, Matt Moulson, Patrick Sharp, Pavel Datsyuk, and Teddy Purcell who weren't drafted in their first eligible year. St. Louis and Purcell were never drafted. Datsyuk was taken in his third year of eligibility.

For some guys, things don't start clicking until later. Not everybody is going to be physically/mentally developed by age 18. Other guys off the top of my head include Chris Kunitz, Dustin Penner, David Desharnais. David Perron went undrafted in his first year then was snatched up in the 1st round. Johan Franzen didn't get drafted until he was like 24 (by current rules he would have been an undrafted free agent).

Devils somehow got 30 goals out of David Clarkson last year. In the past, we also benefitted from undrafted guys like John Madden and Brian Rafalski.

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01-29-2013, 05:32 PM
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K so he's coming
where does he go? put him with Duch?
Or play him at C with Hejduk and Olver

oh and +1 for Bords
Saw him first time last night, wow he has to be one of the biggest guys we've ever had

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01-29-2013, 05:33 PM
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With the draft just being seven rounds in combination with players just being 18/19 years old at the draft, you'll see plenty of players being missed.

List of undrafted NHLers this year

Vancouver Canucks (5) -- Alexandre Burrows, Andrew Ebbett, Jason Garrison, Aaron Volpatti, Chris Tanev

Montreal Canadiens (5) -- Francis Bouillon, Josh Gorges, Rene Bourque, David Desharnais, Raphael Diaz

New Jersey Devils (5) -- David Clarkson, Andy Greene, Peter Harrold, Ryan Carter, Stephen Gionta

Tampa Bay Lightning (5) -- Martin St. Louis, Marc-Andre Bergeron, Teddy Purcell, Pierre-Cedric Labrie, Cory Conacher

Dallas Stars (5) -- Vernon Fiddler, Brenden Dillon, Ryan Garbutt, Jordie Benn, Christopher Nilstorp

Anaheim Ducks (4) -- Brad Staubitz, Jordan Hendry, Jonas Hiller, Viktor Fasth

Toronto Maple Leafs (4) -- Colton Orr, Mike Kostka, Tyler Bozak, Ben Scrivens

New York Rangers (4) -- Jeff Halpern, Dan Girardi, Stu Bickel, Matt Gilroy

San Jose Sharks (4) -- Dan Boyle, Antti Niemi, Matt Irwin, Andrew Desjardins

Minnesota Wild (4) -- Zenon Konopka, Niklas Backstrom, Darroll Powe, Nate Prosser

Calgary Flames (3) -- Curtis Glencross, Mark Giordano, Derek Smith

Carolina Hurricanes (3) -- Chad LaRose, Kevin Westgarth, Jeremy Welsh

Pittsburgh Penguins (3) -- Pascal Dupuis, Chris Kunitz, Ben Lovejoy

Detroit Red Wings (3) -- Brian Lashoff, Jonas Gustavsson, Damien Brunner

Buffalo Sabres (3) -- Matt Ellis, John Scott, Ville Leino

Philadelphia Flyers (3) -- Ruslan Fedotenko, Jody Shelley, Matt Read

Colorado Avalanche (2) -- Cody McLeod, Ryan Wilson

Chicago Blackhawks (2) -- Sheldon Brookbank, Brandon Bollig

Columbus Blue Jackets (2) -- Mark Letestu, Sergei Bobrovsky

Washington Capitals (2) -- Joel Ward, Jay Beagle

Phoenix Coyotes (2) -- Zbynek Michalek, David Schlemko

Los Angeles Kings (2) -- Dustin Penner, Davis Drewiske

Florida Panthers (2) -- Mike Weaver, Jerred Smithson

Edmonton Oilers (1) -- Yann Danis

St. Louis Blues (1) -- Andy McDonald

Boston Bruins (1) -- Rich Peverley

New York Islanders (1) -- Keith Aucoin.

Ottawa Senators (1) -- Andre Benoit

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01-29-2013, 05:34 PM
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To everyone talking about Bordy, yeah I agree he has been fine but I feel Malone could bring a lot more to the team especially on the PK.
Well if last night was an indication of his PK prowess I am not impressed. For me it would be between Olver and Malone. I would prolly send Olver down before I sent Bords down.

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01-29-2013, 05:37 PM
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With the draft just being seven rounds in combination with players just being 18/19 years old at the draft, you'll see plenty of players being missed.

List of undrafted NHLers this year

Vancouver Canucks (5) -- Alexandre Burrows, Andrew Ebbett, Jason Garrison, Aaron Volpatti, Chris Tanev

Montreal Canadiens (5) -- Francis Bouillon, Josh Gorges, Rene Bourque, David Desharnais, Raphael Diaz

New Jersey Devils (5) -- David Clarkson, Andy Greene, Peter Harrold, Ryan Carter, Stephen Gionta

Tampa Bay Lightning (5) -- Martin St. Louis, Marc-Andre Bergeron, Teddy Purcell, Pierre-Cedric Labrie, Cory Conacher

Dallas Stars (5) -- Vernon Fiddler, Brenden Dillon, Ryan Garbutt, Jordie Benn, Christopher Nilstorp

Anaheim Ducks (4) -- Brad Staubitz, Jordan Hendry, Jonas Hiller, Viktor Fasth

Toronto Maple Leafs (4) -- Colton Orr, Mike Kostka, Tyler Bozak, Ben Scrivens

New York Rangers (4) -- Jeff Halpern, Dan Girardi, Stu Bickel, Matt Gilroy

San Jose Sharks (4) -- Dan Boyle, Antti Niemi, Matt Irwin, Andrew Desjardins

Minnesota Wild (4) -- Zenon Konopka, Niklas Backstrom, Darroll Powe, Nate Prosser

Calgary Flames (3) -- Curtis Glencross, Mark Giordano, Derek Smith

Carolina Hurricanes (3) -- Chad LaRose, Kevin Westgarth, Jeremy Welsh

Pittsburgh Penguins (3) -- Pascal Dupuis, Chris Kunitz, Ben Lovejoy

Detroit Red Wings (3) -- Brian Lashoff, Jonas Gustavsson, Damien Brunner

Buffalo Sabres (3) -- Matt Ellis, John Scott, Ville Leino

Philadelphia Flyers (3) -- Ruslan Fedotenko, Jody Shelley, Matt Read

Colorado Avalanche (2) -- Cody McLeod, Ryan Wilson

Chicago Blackhawks (2) -- Sheldon Brookbank, Brandon Bollig

Columbus Blue Jackets (2) -- Mark Letestu, Sergei Bobrovsky

Washington Capitals (2) -- Joel Ward, Jay Beagle

Phoenix Coyotes (2) -- Zbynek Michalek, David Schlemko

Los Angeles Kings (2) -- Dustin Penner, Davis Drewiske

Florida Panthers (2) -- Mike Weaver, Jerred Smithson

Edmonton Oilers (1) -- Yann Danis


St. Louis Blues (1) -- Andy McDonald

Boston Bruins (1) -- Rich Peverley

New York Islanders (1) -- Keith Aucoin.

Ottawa Senators (1) -- Andre Benoit

well damn, why bother with the draft then.
Id be interesting to find out how many of these
guys made it at an older age as undrafted players
versus drafted guys that get played at an earlier age
did that make sense?

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Wish Malone had stayed up and Barrie/Bourds got sent back for a bit. I dont want to admit this, but outside of a few scoring chances in a row, Hejduk looks slow and ineffective this year. I'd actually like to see something like this tomorrow to start, and a quicker juggling of the lines if there is no fire again to start.
Are you watching the same games I am?

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K so he's coming
where does he go? put him with Duch?
Or play him at C with Hejduk and Olver

oh and +1 for Bords
Saw him first time last night, wow he has to be one of the biggest guys we've ever had
Yah hes as tall as Chris Mcallister but better. I have been more then impressed by him

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Tampa Bay have done well for themselves in the undrafted ranks..

Will be interesting to see if Sgar can translate his AHL success..looking forward to seeing his beak in Colorado..loved watching him with Lake Erie..

On a side note the kid is pretty articulate and a good interview!

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Sgarbossa with 7 minutes of ice time, 3 minutes of it on the PK.

Calling it now.
his linemates will include cody mcleod and milan hejduk.

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I like Bordeleau on the team, he can skate, he's physical without being reckless and he's a huge SOB that can actually fight.

Here's hoping Sgarbossa can light the lamp the first game.
agree with you. bordeleau at least brings some physicality. malone just looks like total crap out there.


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I'm excited to see the Pirate up in the NHL... too bad I'll be at a basketball game until late and will probably miss most of this game

I think Sgarbossa will end up playing on the wing with Stastny and Jones. McGinn looked okay next to Duchene and PAP, and that line would be really soft if Sgarbossa was on their wing.

So how I see the lines:

McGinn - Duchene - PAP
Sgarbossa - Stastny - Jones
Kobasew - Mitchell - Hejduk
McLeod - Olver - Bordeleau

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01-30-2013, 09:30 AM
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The Avs really, really need another star player if they want to become a future Cup contender.

I'm not sure if it's Sgarbossa but I for sure hope so.

He could become the difference maker.

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The Avs really, really need another star player if they want to become a future Cup contender.

I'm not sure if it's Sgarbossa but I for sure hope so.

He could become the difference maker.
I don't think Sgarbossa will ever become a star in this league. He could surprise, but I just don't see it in him. What I see is a player that can become a solid #2 center if groomed for that position (ie mostly play in the AHL except spot duty to develop how to play center at a professional level) or a player that could become a good 2nd line wing.

I personally see his max as a 20-25g 30-35a sort of player who can play with some grit as he bulks up a bit. Not a star, but the sort of player you need for depth on a winning team. If he keeps his game simple and just fires the puck from the wing he could score more goals than that. His shot is very underrated and he always seems to shoot a very high percentage.

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Surprising call up. I thought they would have gone with VDG or Thomas.

I like it though. 36 points through 38 games in Lake Erie. Sacco needs to put him Top 6. I'd argue to put him with Duchy and PA's line while Landy is out. Baptism by fire.

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Surprising call up. I thought they would have gone with VDG or Thomas.

I like it though. 36 points through 38 games in Lake Erie. Sacco needs to put him Top 6. I'd argue to put him with Duchy and PA's line while Landy is out. Baptism by fire.
Isn't he more of a shooter? Stastny desperately needs someone with some jump on his line.

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Isn't he more of a shooter? Stastny desperately needs someone with some jump on his line.
On second thought you are right. I thought he was more of a playmaker for some reason.

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