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01-29-2013, 06:03 PM
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01-29-2013, 06:04 PM
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I would hope the Leafs could get a better deal than that for Kessel.

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01-29-2013, 06:13 PM
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I would hope the Leafs could get a better deal than that for Kessel.
Funny because Minnesota says no to this deal, as it is WAAAY to much to give up for Kessel.

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01-29-2013, 06:18 PM
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Holy crap. For 1.5 years of Kessel that is waaaay too much. Basically all of our meaningful 2013 picks, two top prospects and a top 6 roster player. No effing way.

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01-29-2013, 06:19 PM
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Minnesota has no need for Kessel. Toronto would likely ask for Granlund in any deal for Kessel. We already have Parise who can put up Kessel numbers and play defense too. And why would we trade our first 3 picks in a deep draft? Reminds me too much of the 1st Kessel trade.

Clutterbuck for Liles is a more likely Leafs-Wild deal. Wild need defensemen, not another winger.

New proposal is highway robbery. Looks like a Sather trade. Toronto says yes when hell freezes over.


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01-29-2013, 06:21 PM
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Holy crap. For 1.5 years of Kessel that is waaaay too much. Basically all of our meaningful 2013 picks, two top prospects and a top 6 roster player. No effing way.
Sorry my bad wasn't even thinking about only having Kessel for 1.5 years so has original post has been updated.

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01-29-2013, 06:27 PM
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good trade

if anything it is better for Minnesota

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01-29-2013, 06:29 PM
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Sorry my bad wasn't even thinking about only having Kessel for 1.5 years so has original post has been updated.
Much better now. I'd probably do that new deal.

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01-29-2013, 06:43 PM
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Never mind. You changed the trade terms. Disregard what I would've said. Still not enamored with Kessel. As stated wing not a need.

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01-29-2013, 06:48 PM
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Why does everyone think Kessel will walk?

He likes Toronto like most players, and his buddy just re-signed because he likes the direction of the team.

They are young and have great foundation.

Kessel will sign for like 6.5M per for 6-7 years, similar to Patrick Kane.

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01-29-2013, 06:52 PM
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Why does everyone think Kessel will walk?

He likes Toronto like most players, and his buddy just re-signed because he likes the direction of the team.

They are young and have great foundation.

Kessel will sign for like 6.5M per for 6-7 years, similar to Patrick Kane.
Actually makes me wonder why Kessel is the subject of so many trade proposals. If it's fear of him not re-signing after next season worry about that at draft or next season. Or are many Leaf fans ready to do a proper rebuild?

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New proposal is highway robbery. Looks like a Sather trade. Toronto says yes when hell freezes over.
Why would we trade Kessel right after winning the Cup?

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01-29-2013, 08:13 PM
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Why would we trade Kessel right after winning the Cup?
Because he'll be caught using HGH to win it

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01-29-2013, 10:40 PM
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Kessel + Gardiner

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Heatley + Granlund + Brodin

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01-29-2013, 10:43 PM
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I can't say, I like your proposal (probably fair but I wouldn't do it) but your avatar might be the greatest thing, I've ever seen!

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01-29-2013, 10:48 PM
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What is this? Toronto says no, and easily.

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Seto is a MacA clone.

Drop Coyle and Seto and replace them with Granlund then maybe.

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these proposals are god awful... Kessel has had a rough start just 3 points in 6 games but its not the end of the world. HE HAS OVER A 100 goals in his first 3 years in Toronto... We're NOT trading him. my god.

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Kessel can't sign a contract extension until July 1st 2013. So I don't know how this works.

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01-29-2013, 11:04 PM
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Don't see why either team does this...

Also, Toronto could probably get a much better deal for a re-signed Kessel.

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01-29-2013, 11:56 PM
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Holy crap. For 1.5 years of Kessel that is waaaay too much. Basically all of our meaningful 2013 picks, two top prospects and a top 6 roster player. No effing way.
2 years, not 1.5. We're a little over 5% done the season. You get him now, you have what would be about 70 games in a normal season.

He's a top 10 scorer who hasn't even hit his prime yet, and has been a consistent lethal gamebreaking threat every minute he's on the ice. You need to fulfill two criteria for this trade to make any sense from a Leaf perspective.

1. A future number one center. Doesn't have to be elite, but projects confidently to be at least a 70 point player. He would somewhat replace Kessel's offense, but would fill an actual organizational need.
2. A future top pairing defenseman to replace Dion. Doesn't have to be all-star.

Why two pieces? Because there's a very real possibility that at least one of them reaches potential, but the other doesn't. You could either get two meh players out of it, a meh and a great, or two greats. 25:50:25. Toronto takes all the risk, so you have to mitigate it somehow. Otherwise, it's not worth it to move Kessel. I'm confident that several teams would consider it. Two question marks for a sure thing.

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these proposals are god awful... Kessel has had a rough start just 3 points in 6 games but its not the end of the world. HE HAS OVER A 100 goals in his first 3 years in Toronto... We're NOT trading him. my god.
He's actually stuck on 99

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Minnesota

Setogouchi

Coyle

Matt Hackett

2013 4th

Toronto

Phil Kessel (resignied)
Jesus Christ on a crutch no. Get out with that foolishness.

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01-30-2013, 12:04 AM
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Toronto has no need to get rid of Kessel, and would be dumb to unless it was a BLOW-AWAY package.

Toronto's biggest problem isn't that they don't have capable players, it's that the majority of the capable players need support.
This trade just crowds up their contract list really.

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