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01-30-2013, 11:20 AM
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Edm- pitts

Yakupov, RNH, and 2 first to Pitts for Malkin and Martin

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01-30-2013, 11:27 AM
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Pittsburgh says no.

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I'd say that's a No Go for both teams.

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01-30-2013, 11:40 AM
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Yakupov, RNH, and 2 first to Pitts for Malkin and Martin
i wouldn't do that. Malkin is far and away the best player in this deal. besides, Martin is one of their best d-men this year and they won't have ANYONE to replace him if they trade him in that deal.

the lines would basically look like this:

Kunitz/Dupuis - Crosby - Yakupov
Dupuis/Kunitz - Nugent-Hopkins - Neal
Cooke - Sutter - Kennedy
Adams - Vitale - Tangradi/Jeffrey

Niskanen - Letang
Orpik - Bortuzzo
Lovejoy - Engelland

Fleury
Vokoun

with Niskanen hurt, though, they'd need to call someone up and there's no guarantee that that player will even help provide what Martin had.


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01-30-2013, 11:41 AM
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I'd say that's a No Go for both teams.
I'd say it's only a no go for one.

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01-30-2013, 11:43 AM
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Yakupov, RNH, and 2 first to Pitts for Malkin and Martin
Never would happen. Neither team would do it. That said, with the way Malkin has shown this year ...

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Pittsburgh says no.
oilers say no as well because it opens up holes elsewhere

Both Yak and Nuge could be getting 80pts a season with two years

Malkin in a UFA after next season. He gets about 100 to 110 pts a year, do you trade two 80pts guys for 1 100pts guy. For me Martin does not bring what the oilers need on the D-line.

Malking is a great player, but I want to see Nuge and Yak develop and see where they go. Oilers are not in a win now mode and can wait to see how they develop. And those two first rounders will be in the top ten area and the next two drafts are reportedly deep. While having short term gain for the oilers, it would incur long term pain.

If the oilers start moving first rounder around I think they will do it for a goalie

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01-30-2013, 12:15 PM
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oilers say no as well because it opens up holes elsewhere

Both Yak and Nuge could be getting 80pts a season with two years

Malkin in a UFA after next season. He gets about 100 to 110 pts a year, do you trade two 80pts guys for 1 100pts guy. For me Martin does not bring what the oilers need on the D-line.

Malking is a great player, but I want to see Nuge and Yak develop and see where they go. Oilers are not in a win now mode and can wait to see how they develop. And those two first rounders will be in the top ten area and the next two drafts are reportedly deep. While having short term gain for the oilers, it would incur long term pain.

If the oilers start moving first rounder around I think they will do it for a goalie
Edmonton is also giving up 2 1st round picks in a highly deep draft this year. Neither team would ever offer or even accept such a deal, but if it ever went down, Pitts wins this trade hands down!

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At least it isn`t Hemsky this time.

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At least it isn`t Hemsky this time.
Or Omark, or Gagner, or MPV

Props to the OP for originality for not including the same recycled names.

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Edmonton is also giving up 2 1st round picks in a highly deep draft this year. Neither team would ever offer or even accept such a deal, but if it ever went down, Pitts wins this trade hands down!
Sorry but RNH is a big downgrade from Malkin, Yakupov is still way to unproven, and Pittsburgh has no need for two first round picks, so how does Pittsburgh win this trade hands down?

also.. is it just me, or does anyone else notice how every draft is a very deep draft, till the draft actually happens which then it becomes a not so deep draft, and everyone starts talking about the next draft being very deep...and the cycle just continues and continues....

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01-30-2013, 01:02 PM
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my favorite part of these threads are definitely when people come in and say, "WELL THE OILERS WOULDN'T DO IT EITHER, SO THERE!!!"

yea, okay.

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01-30-2013, 01:08 PM
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Obviously RNH is a downgrade from Geno... But we're talking two 19yr olds with massive potential and then two more 1st rounders.. Now I'm not saying Malkin isn't worth it but I can't see the Oil even wanting to make this trade. To much Risk on both sides.


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01-30-2013, 01:11 PM
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my favorite part of these threads are definitely when people come in and say, "WELL THE OILERS WOULDN'T DO IT EITHER, SO THERE!!!"

yea, okay.
I really wouldnt. Would be a stupid trade for the Oilers.

They need to use those picks to fill holes in the lineup, not make more...

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01-30-2013, 01:16 PM
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This has to be a 'no' from both sides.

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01-30-2013, 01:17 PM
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It could be worse. There is just no making an offer for Malkin that is worth it for both teams.

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01-30-2013, 01:18 PM
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Congratulations on making a trade in which the Oilers get one of the best players in the world, yet as an Oiler fan, im not even slightly interested. Not even slightly.

Two first overalls AND 2 first rounders?

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01-30-2013, 01:19 PM
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Yakupov, RNH, and 2 first to Pitts for Malkin and Martin
This is among the more interesting "will absolutely never happen" type deals that i have seen on here, I actually see reasonably fair value here, both yakupov and RNH are going to be stars in the NHL, but after that this deal just kind of goes to hell in terms of the possibility of it happening. For starters Pittsburgh has ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to trade away one of the best players in the NHL for what basically becomes the future (not taking away anything from yakupov or RNH, but they are not at their full potential yet). Secondly, I VERY highly doubt that Edmonton would be willing to trade away their next 2 first round picks on a team still in rebuilding. All in all though the value does appear to be there from my standpoint, but its just a deal that neither team does, it would be a win now move for edmonton which doesnt make much sence for their rebuild (even if they are approaching the end of it), and it would be a rebuild type move for pittsburgh, who are a legitimate condender right now.

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01-30-2013, 01:26 PM
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Should be a no-brainer from Edmonton's perspective.

Malkin is better than what RNH and Yakupov can ever hope to become... trading a lot of potential for a bonafide top 2 player who is still in his 20's would be tremendous for a fan base who has been watching "potential" for the last number of years.

The folks arguing that they don't want to part with the picks due to the depth of the upcoming drafts need to remember that Edmonton has been doing pretty well with their second round picks in recent years and to trust their scouts.

Malkin is a freak talent and a Hall - Malkin - Eberle line would be ridiculous.

With the D-core rounding into shape and lots of cap space they could potentially look like this come training camp in September:

Hartkinnen (spelling?) - Malkin - Eberle
Hall - Gagner - Perry (FA signing)

I just don't know why Pittsburgh would pull this trade given they're in "win now" mode.

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I really wouldnt. Would be a stupid trade for the Oilers.

They need to use those picks to fill holes in the lineup, not make more...
it's not just this thread (I think the value is actually sort of close), but so many threads in this board. As soon as one fan base says no, the other fan base rushes in and says, 'yea, we'll see wouldn't either!" It's just funny.

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how would Neal get points!?


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This trade honestly sets Edmonton back way further.

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This trade honestly sets Edmonton back way further.
Malkin doesn't set any team back. Malkin is the best NHL player in the game today.

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01-30-2013, 01:31 PM
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my favorite part of these threads are definitely when people come in and say, "WELL THE OILERS WOULDN'T DO IT EITHER, SO THERE!!!"

yea, okay.
Are Martin and Malkin going to make Edmonton cup contenders? No.

Edmonton also loses their next 2 first round picks.

This trade would make Edmonton marginally better in the short term, and weaker in the long term.

Why don't you explain your logic as to why you think Edmonton would be foolish to turn down this trade?

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