WRONG. Bills just signed a 10 year lease so good luck. Btw we already got a billionaire (Tom Golisano) from the area who already said he would buy the team before he ever let them leave. Bills aren't going anywhere. Toronto doesn't deserve a NFL team.
wasnt talkin about Leafs sir and the bolded seems a bit high, but still very poor since Leafs STH are forced to buy Raptors tickets. and also very poor since you are in what the 4th largest market? isnt that what Torontonians like to beat their chest about..
NFL would be the same.. in like a Lion out like a lamb.. then all the excuses will start team sucks, stadiums bad or in bad area etc etc
Originally Posted by FakeKidPoker
Toronto can't support it.
1. They'd need a new Stadium.. I don't think Toronto is going to pay a billion or so to build a new one.
2. According to NFL rules a corporation cannot own a team it has to be a single person.. so that means no Rogers or Bell.
I feel if they did get a team it would do ok for the first couple honeymoon years but after that if they continued to suck they would do bad at the Gate like the Blue Jays and Argos.
Raptors are funny.. they still do decent but their ticket sales are tied to the Leafs so they get a big boost there
As far as I know only the Platinum leaf season ticket holders are required to also buy Raptors season tickets.
As to the Raptors attendance considering that they've only made it out of the First Round of the playoffs once in 18 years (and only made the playoffs 5 times) I'd say their attendance is pretty damn amazing!
Not really, it's a different game. The CFL is more of a passing league and the NFL is more of a running league.
A lot of good NFL players have failed to be sucessful in the CFL.
This was true back in the 80's but the NFL is all about passing now. It would take some time to adjust and some players might not make the impact they do in the NFL but saying "they'd be fish out of water" (I know you didn't say this) is just wrong.
Eh, at least there's at least some miniscule local interest in that game in Toronto. Literally everything I've heard from friends that lived in London was that when the NFL came to town, essentially everybody that wasn't a visiting American either didn't give a **** or were annoyed at the NFL's presence.
Interesting battle of the attendance claims going on. On Toronto radio station the FAN590 Tuesday afternoon, Keith Pelley of Rogers claimed they sold 35,000 tickets and only gave away 4,000 for the 2012 game (which still doesn't add up to the announced crowd of almost 41,000). Bob McCown, the guy interviewing Pelley, recently said that the Bills in Toronto Series only sold 15,000 for the first game of the old deal (2008), and never went above 20,000 for any game thereafter, which means every game had at least 20,000 freebies.
Most analysts believe the first $78 million deal was a massive money-loser for Rogers, so the question is why renew? Six games versus eight certainly reduces the cost, but I don't get what's in it for Rogers.
Yeah, I mean no offense to Toronto sports fans, because I know from watching Leafs & Jays games, they are great fans. But from watching these Bills games on TV, the atmosphere in SkyDome for these NFL games is atrocious. I remember when the Dolphins played the Bills there a few years ago, it almost seemed like a Dolphins home game. Plus, I am told there is no way to tailgate for these games, which is also a shame.
The Rogers Centre is set up poorly to start with. It is in downtown Toronto and the parking for the game is always atrocious. There isn't the traditional parking around the stadium like most places. It is also a terrible venue to watch a football game. It just is. It was barely built for Baseball even, but it is clear it is NOT a football stadium. So the sightlines are poor.
If Toronto supports it why isn't there the support right now? Where's the passion?
Because it's not a Toronto team. Funny how that doesn't seem to matter in London. Probably wouldn't matter in LA either. Toronto realizes it is the Bills they would get, right? Or are they expecting the Patriots?
It's not necessarily London when they go to London. It's all of Europe. And they keep sending other teams. They've gotten the Patriots twice, and 49ers twice. And next year they're sending the Cowboys. The Bills keep getting ****** teams, when they're also ****** themselves.
And they don't have to sell out the stadium to enforce the blackout rules, so the true number is reported. No different than any other sport, teams only truly sell out the stadium with actual people in the seats when they're good. We talk at least once or twice a year, hell there's a thread going on right now, about how much more worth it it is to stay home and watch Red Zone.
They'd support it. Stop. Just stop. It's the 8th biggest metro area on the continent. It's too big to not support it.
They don't "have the Bills." They don't want the Bills, either. They want Toronto.
Toronto may be the 3rd Largest city in N America, but that means little when the 2nd largest city (LA) failed to keep their NFL team. Population bases are not the be all and end all for success. (see Green Bay). Toronto just does not care for the NFL enough to pay the price of having a team. The thought of Toronto selling 70 thousand football tickets for every game in what will certainly be the most expensive ticket in the NFL is ridiculous IMO.