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01-23-2013, 10:07 PM
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So who do some of these guys compare too?

Johansen?
JAM?
Atkinson?
Savard?
Erixon?
R.Murray?
Calvert?
Moore?
Reilly?
Jenner?
I'll play along

Johansen: Joe Thornton/Ryan Getzlaf
Audy-Marchessault/Atkinson: Brian Gionta
Savard: Dennis Wideman
Erixon: Dan Hamhuis
Murray: Scott Niedermayer
Calvert: Nick Foligno
Moore: Michael del Zotto
Reilly: Mike Green
Jenner: Manny Malhotra

Really, it's impossible to compare upsides; but these are stylistic comparisons. Some guys may turn out better, most will turn out not as good. Some make guys like me look like a genius and end up right on par

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01-24-2013, 01:56 AM
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I'll play along

Johansen: Joe Thornton/Ryan Getzlaf
Audy-Marchessault/Atkinson: Brian Gionta
Savard: Dennis Wideman
Erixon: Dan Hamhuis
Murray: Scott Niedermayer
Calvert: Nick Foligno
Moore: Michael del Zotto
Reilly: Mike Green
Jenner: Manny Malhotra

Really, it's impossible to compare upsides; but these are stylistic comparisons. Some guys may turn out better, most will turn out not as good. Some make guys like me look like a genius and end up right on par
Not bad, as a follower of another team. I like the Savard to Wideman comparison and think it really fits. JAM reminds me a lot of Danny Briere. The whole French-Canadian, high scoring junior from the Q with a bit of a mean streak and subtle dirty to his game. Briere is/was quite a bit more skilled, but it works for me.

I feel like Booner Jenner has a higher upside than Malhotra, and I know you said it wasn't based on upside but rather stylistic play.

Not really sure about Johansen to Thornton or Getzlaf. I tend to see more Eric Staal to his game. Typically not a guy who is throwing his weight around, but is learning to use it to protect the puck.

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01-24-2013, 05:50 AM
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I see some David Backes in Jenner.. or maybe I just hope I see it lol.

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01-24-2013, 06:57 PM
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anton at it again....

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01-24-2013, 07:06 PM
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"Oscar Dansk will not play tomorrow on #FridayNightHockey. He was injured against Sarnia last Friday." - Patrick King, Canadian Hockey League reporter/columnist at Sportsnet.ca.

Anyone know anything else about this? Is it serious?

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01-24-2013, 07:18 PM
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"Oscar Dansk will not play tomorrow on #FridayNightHockey. He was injured against Sarnia last Friday." - Patrick King, Canadian Hockey League reporter/columnist at Sportsnet.ca.

Anyone know anything else about this? Is it serious?
he's tweeted about it a bit...got injured a couple weeks ago...i believe its a knee...not overly serious...should be back soon...

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01-24-2013, 07:23 PM
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"Oscar Dansk will not play tomorrow on #FridayNightHockey. He was injured against Sarnia last Friday." - Patrick King, Canadian Hockey League reporter/columnist at Sportsnet.ca.

Anyone know anything else about this? Is it serious?
Concussion, which is inherently day-to-day.

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01-24-2013, 07:24 PM
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oh yeah...sorry...concussion is correct

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01-24-2013, 09:09 PM
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Not bad, as a follower of another team. I like the Savard to Wideman comparison and think it really fits. JAM reminds me a lot of Danny Briere. The whole French-Canadian, high scoring junior from the Q with a bit of a mean streak and subtle dirty to his game. Briere is/was quite a bit more skilled, but it works for me.

I feel like Booner Jenner has a higher upside than Malhotra, and I know you said it wasn't based on upside but rather stylistic play.

Not really sure about Johansen to Thornton or Getzlaf. I tend to see more Eric Staal to his game. Typically not a guy who is throwing his weight around, but is learning to use it to protect the puck.
Audy-Marchessault to Briere is fair, but I don't think he will ever get anywhere near that level. It's possible.

People seem to forget that Manny Malhotra was once the sixth pick overall. In fact, I have a historical guide to the Memorial Cup that was held here in Spokane in 1998; it mentions the Guelph Storm, with Manny Malhotra "steamrolling" their way into the tournament. I think placing such lofty expectations on a guy that hadn't even scored at a point-per-game pace in the OHL was probably a bit unfair by the Rangers, but I actually like the type of player he's turned into, in spite of what he's gone through. It's very possible that Boone Jenner has more offensive upside, but his two-way game is similar in many aspects. I think the hope around here is that he'll become a second/third line center that plays against the other teams' top lines on a shift by shift basis, and chips in depth scoring when need be. That's exactly what Manny Malhotra provided when he was here. If Boone can give us more offense, then that's excellent.

Johansen really reminds me a lot of Joe Thornton with the puck. Eric Staal is more of a shooter; I don't see Ryan ever being that good of a shooter. Thornton doesn't throw the big hits that often anymore; he's turned into more of a setup guy/powerplay specialist ... that's the Joe Thornton I see when watching Ryan Johansen. The Getzlaf comparison is as much about size/skating style than anything.

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01-27-2013, 12:45 AM
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Halfway point update:

TJ Tynan 20, C, NCAA
24 Games 7 Goals 13 Assist

Lukas Sedlak 19,C, QMJHL
39 Games 12 Goals 17 Assist +3

Boone Jenner 19,C, OHL
38 Games 32 Goals 23 Assist +12

Michael Chaput 20, C, AHL
37 Games 6 Goals 12 Assist

Seth Ambroz 19, LW, NCAA
24 Games 7 Goals 7 Assist

Maxim Mayorov 23, LW, KHL
30 Games 11 Goals 1 Assist -2

Jonathon Audy-Marchessault 22, RW, AHL
41 Games 16 Goals 28 Assist

Daniel Zaar 18, RW, Multiple
42 Games 10 Goals 9 Assist +6

Thomas Kubalik 22 ,RW, AHL
37 Games 11 Goals 6 Assist

Tim Erixon 21, D, AHL
38 Games 5 Goals 24 Assist

Ryan Murray 19, D, WHL
23 Games 2 Goals 15 Assist (Injury)

Cody Goloubef 23, D, AHL
17 Games 2 Goals 5 Assist

Austin Madaisky 20, D, ECHL
8 Games 1 Goal 4 Assist

Mike Reilly 19, D, NCAA
22 Games 2 Goals 9 Assist

Oscar Dansk 18, G, OHL
30 Games 3.72 GAA .901

Joonas Korpisalo 18, G, Multiple
5 Games 3.00 GAA .895 in 1 league 4 Games 2.45 GAA .925 in the other

Allen York 23, G, AHL
8 Games 2.64 GAA .902

Anton Forsberg 20, G, Loan
25 Games 1.92 GAA .933


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01-27-2013, 01:09 AM
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I'll play along

Johansen: Joe Thornton/Ryan Getzlaf
Audy-Marchessault/Atkinson: Brian Gionta
Savard: Dennis Wideman
Erixon: Dan Hamhuis
Murray: Scott Niedermayer
Calvert: Nick Foligno
Moore: Michael del Zotto
Reilly: Mike Green
Jenner: Manny Malhotra

Really, it's impossible to compare upsides; but these are stylistic comparisons. Some guys may turn out better, most will turn out not as good. Some make guys like me look like a genius and end up right on par
Let me throw out a name for you to chew on.
Boone Jenner: Jeremy Roenick

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01-27-2013, 07:08 AM
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Let me throw out a name for you to chew on.
Boone Jenner: Jeremy Roenick
That would be okay with me. And 20 years down the line we might have a good color guy.

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01-27-2013, 01:51 PM
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Let me throw out a name for you to chew on.
Boone Jenner: Jeremy Roenick
I don't see it. Jenner doesn't have the same level of talent as Roenick. 19 year olds can dominate in juniors because they are bigger, stronger, and having played at higher levels, are faster and more skilled than most 17 and 18 year olds. I think that's what's going on with Boone Jenner right now.

I would love to be proven wrong and have him turn into a top line player, but honestly I just don't see it.

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01-28-2013, 08:19 AM
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AHL ASG tonight right? which means after tonights game we might see JAM up here?

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01-28-2013, 09:28 AM
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AHL ASG tonight right? which means after tonights game we might see JAM up here?
They say that currently they do not plan to make any call-ups. That being said, if the team drops its next two games I wouldn't be surprised to see JAM make his Columbus debut.

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01-28-2013, 09:59 AM
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They say that currently they do not plan to make any call-ups. That being said, if the team drops its next two games I wouldn't be surprised to see JAM make his Columbus debut.
No they said they wont make call ups untill after the next few days/games, not that they didnt plan to make any callups, if they didnt plan to make call ups then there wouldn't have been a mention of playing the waiting game with Atkinsons health

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01-28-2013, 10:11 AM
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Unless they are going to call JAM up to play on lines 1-3, then they should just keep him down in Springfield. No sense in calling him up to sit and watch in the press box.

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01-28-2013, 10:24 PM
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West won 7-6

JAM had 1 goal
Curtis McElhinney saved 15 of 16 shots the best Goalie preformance of the game
Erixon didnt have any G or A but had a +/- of 0

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01-30-2013, 04:01 PM
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Boone Jenner

So whats the Deal with this kid? how good can he be? all the pre-draft scouting reports on him where hating on him saying he didnt have the best offensive skill set or wasn't a good skater yet every year but 1 he's averaged at least 1 point per game and this year he's averaing almost a goal per game and well over 1 point per game. but that brings me to my next question is why isn't he in a higher up league? i've read he's a 19 year old playing vs 17 and 18 year olds, why?

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01-30-2013, 04:06 PM
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Jenner is too young for the AHL and judged not yet ready for the NHL. That's why he's back with his Junior team.

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So whats the Deal with this kid? how good can he be? all the pre-draft scouting reports on him where hating on him saying he didnt have the best offensive skill set or wasn't a good skater yet every year but 1 he's averaged at least 1 point per game and this year he's averaing almost a goal per game and well over 1 point per game. but that brings me to my next question is why isn't he in a higher up league? i've read he's a 19 year old playing vs 17 and 18 year olds, why?
2 reasons:

1) We don't want to rush the kid and ruin his development in a "throw away year."
2) We don't want to burn a year of his ELC in a "throw away year."

I don't believe his is eligible to play in the AHL so there you go I guess.

I have no idea how "good" he can be. People seem to like him though.

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Jenner is too young for the AHL and judged not yet ready for the NHL. That's why he's back with his Junior team.
This, a thousand times this. It is right now that greatest problem with nhl development . There is no place for 19 year olds who aren't ready to move into the nhl, but are already at the top of the chl.

Jenner's offensive explosion was a surprise this year, but guys like Johansen could have really used this to their advantage. I'm still somewhat shocked that the new CBA didn't at least have some exceptions or modifications regarding this.

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01-30-2013, 07:36 PM
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This, a thousand times this. It is right now that greatest problem with nhl development . There is no place for 19 year olds who aren't ready to move into the nhl, but are already at the top of the chl.

Jenner's offensive explosion was a surprise this year, but guys like Johansen could have really used this to their advantage. I'm still somewhat shocked that the new CBA didn't at least have some exceptions or modifications regarding this.
With the recent issues involving NCAA players leaving their team (and school) mid-season to go to the CHL, I would expect there to be a meeting of the minds in order to really hash out this issue for good.

The CHL arrangement is written largely to benefit the CHL, and I honestly don't see a problem with it. Their teams have to compete and make money, and their eligible players hanging in limbo (as is the case when they're on an NHL roster) damages their ability to do both.

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Ouellette is quietly developing into a solid goalie prospect:

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Martin Ouellette, G – University of Maine Black Bears (Hockey East)

In four of Ouellette’s seven losses this season, the Black Bears scored one goal or fewer. So look past the former New England prep star’s 5-7-4 record and instead concentrate on his past two wins – back-to-back victories over powerhouse Boston College – and overall goals-against average of 2.08, which is best in the conference. Drafted 184th overall by Columbus in 2010.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...all-Nurse.html

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Ouellette is quietly developing into a solid goalie prospect:
I can only imagine next years training camp. The goalie battle will be insane. Dansk. Korpisalo. Forsberg. Quellette. McElhinney? Mason?
Jenner, Reilly, Chaput, Kubalik, JAM, Tynan, Murray, Mackinnon? Barkov? Shinkaruk? Monahan? Erne?

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