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01-30-2013, 06:34 PM
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The Habs just signed him, he's not available. mrinsane, please stop with the habs proposals.
I think it will depend on if he get into the new team philosophy, subban could become available if he get troubles with his teamate like the last season.

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01-30-2013, 06:37 PM
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Smith+ won't land a young top #2 defenseman. Smith is overrated.
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Smith's not going anywhere unless it's for a franchise defenseman. Anything less and it's a lateral move. No dice.
so i guess the gaps between the asking price and the offer is too large

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01-30-2013, 06:53 PM
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Zetterberg + 1st.
The Wings would not be adding to Zetterberg in any deal for a Canadiens player.

They probably aren't looking to move him, but there is no way there is a plus in a Subban trade that involves Zetterberg where it isn't come from Montreal and that is still a huge plus or pluses if the Wings were to even consider trading him.

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01-30-2013, 07:08 PM
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The Wings would not be adding to Zetterberg in any deal for a Canadiens player.

They probably aren't looking to move him, but there is no way there is a plus in a Subban trade that involves Zetterberg where it isn't come from Montreal and that is still a huge plus or pluses if the Wings were to even consider trading him.
Fine. Forget Subban.

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01-30-2013, 07:09 PM
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Maybe the players purposely kept their reactions on the tame side?

If Subban was such a drain on team morale, don't you think he would have been traded and not re-signed?

That said, Montreal management clearly stated Subban is part of the team's future. He isn't being traded anytime soon.

Mr. Insane - you've done it once again. Can't wait for your next proposal.
There was a little tongue in cheek in my reply. So holster those irons cowboy. If there is a problem in the locker room between PK and a some of his teammates that is not management's problem, it's the coach's duty to smooth it out if the players can't. Management is there to assemble the best team, regardless of any issues that may occur in locker room. PK is an excellent #1 Defenseman. That is an extremely rare commodity in the NHL. There's what maybe 10-15 legit #1 Dmen in the league? How many of them are under the age of 25? So you don't trade players like that. I'd bet my paycheck every team has players that do not like each other, like pretty much every work place.

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01-30-2013, 08:30 PM
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So here is a list of acceptable players Detroit would trade Smith straight up:

Doughty
Pietrangelo
Weber
Karlsson
Phaneuf
Keith

Anything less and it's a lateral move. No dice.
Wow this Smith kid must be a sure fire #1 dman

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01-30-2013, 11:29 PM
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So here is a list of acceptable players Detroit would trade Smith straight up:

Doughty
Pietrangelo
Weber
Karlsson
Phaneuf
Keith

Anything less and it's a lateral move. No dice.
If Smith is at least marginally better than a bag of pucks Toronto might do this deal

And for this oilers fan I would not be interested in Mr personality unless it was a serious underpayment. Too many red flags with him

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01-30-2013, 11:54 PM
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So here is a list of acceptable players Detroit would trade Smith straight up:

Doughty
Pietrangelo
Weber
Karlsson
Phaneuf
Keith

Anything less and it's a lateral move. No dice.
Why is Phaneuf on that list? Where is Chara on that list?

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01-30-2013, 11:56 PM
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Zetterberg + 1st.
Is this a serious post?

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01-30-2013, 11:58 PM
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So here is a list of acceptable players Detroit would trade Smith straight up:

Doughty
Pietrangelo
Weber
Karlsson
Phaneuf
Keith

Anything less and it's a lateral move. No dice.
Which one of those guys is not like the others.. haha

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01-31-2013, 12:37 AM
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Which one of those guys is not like the others.. haha
Seriously How does Celine make that list???

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There was a little tongue in cheek in my reply. So holster those irons cowboy. If there is a problem in the locker room between PK and a some of his teammates that is not management's problem, it's the coach's duty to smooth it out if the players can't. Management is there to assemble the best team, regardless of any issues that may occur in locker room. PK is an excellent #1 Defenseman. That is an extremely rare commodity in the NHL. There's what maybe 10-15 legit #1 Dmen in the league? How many of them are under the age of 25? So you don't trade players like that. I'd bet my paycheck every team has players that do no like each other, like pretty much every work place.
I dont agree with this at all. To me PK is an excellent third, a good second or a marginal first. Maybe he will become an excellent first at some point in the future but he is not there now.

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01-31-2013, 12:44 AM
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Any offer?
Wow I thought after the signing that these stupid pointless threads would stop...like why would they sign him and then right away trade him?... Stop with these threads PK WANTS to be a hab and as long as he does and the Canadians management do he will be a hab for many years to come and I garuntee you unless something drastic happens he will be a hab for another 10+ years, he's the guy Montrčal will build around on the point I mean after this 2 year contract he will sign a 5 or 6 year contract extension.

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01-31-2013, 01:06 AM
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Fine. Forget Subban.
Most of the league already has.

As far as the OP goes, Detroit won't be trading any assets for a holdout that's a UFA in a couple years.

Besides, he's not a #1 defenseman. He'd be #2 on Detroit until Smith takes him over and then he'd be overpaid.

Not worth the assets.

Also, why would Edmonton want Subban?

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01-31-2013, 01:22 AM
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So here is a list of acceptable players Detroit would trade Smith straight up:

Doughty
Pietrangelo
Weber
Karlsson
Phaneuf
Keith

Anything less and it's a lateral move. No dice.
Why is Phaneuf on there? Detroit wouldn't trade Smith for Phaneuf because it's a downgrade.

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01-31-2013, 01:26 AM
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oh, not this little nugget again.

habs fans will say one of the big four, oilers fans will say MPS + 3rd or something retarded like this. was pointless the first 27 times, still pointless now

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I might sound dumb here but Who or what is MPS? I saw that a few nights ago and wondered but didn't care enough to ask but now I'm really curious?

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I might sound dumb here but Who or what is MPS? I saw that a few nights ago and wondered but didn't care enough to ask but now I'm really curious?
Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson

He's dropped the -Svensson part though.

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Detroit: Smith++
Edmonton: Pick one of your big four

Don't like it? No Subban. Not that any of you specifically asked in this thread. I am merely being frank that unless the above happened. Montreal would refuse any offer.

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Most of the league already has.

As far as the OP goes, Detroit won't be trading any assets for a holdout that's a UFA in a couple years.

Besides, he's not a #1 defenseman. He'd be #2 on Detroit until Smith takes him over and then he'd be overpaid.

Not worth the assets.

Also, why would Edmonton want Subban?
What?
If you dont know what you are talking about, why are you talking?

Subban is RFA in two years AGAIN.

And he played #1 D in the last 2 years and did really great. Monster hitter (quality vs quantity), knows how to scores, really good on D, can play 25-30mins a night. Hes a game changer. How many 22yo does that like him (and have the same baggage, huh?)?

Smith will never come close to Subban's skill set.
That Detroit fan is a pure homer or dont know anything about players outside his team.

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What?
If you dont know what you are talking about, why are you talking?

Subban is RFA in two years AGAIN.

And he played #1 D in the last 2 years and did really great. Monster hitter (quality vs quantity), knows how to scores, really good on D, can play 25-30mins a night. Hes a game changer. How many 22yo does that like him (and have the same baggage, huh?)?

Smith will never come close to Subban's skill set.
That Detroit fan is a pure homer or dont know anything about players outside his team.
Congrads, he was the #1 in Montreal, doesn't mean he'll be #1 in Detroit. Also, him being a RFA doesn't mean much, he'll command a huge payday.

And you call me a homer? Take off the glasses bud.

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01-31-2013, 09:14 AM
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Smith's not going anywhere unless it's for a franchise defenseman. Anything less and it's a lateral move. No dice.
Posts like this make the rest of us Red Wings fans look bad. I literally facepalmed as soon as I read that post.

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Smith is overrated.
Explain.

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Detroit: Smith++
Edmonton: Pick one of your big four

Don't like it? No Subban. Not that any of you specifically asked in this thread. I am merely being frank that unless the above happened. Montreal would refuse any offer.
I dont think thats true. If a deal came along that made sense for the cap, made the team better now and in the future, the deal would accepted.

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