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01-30-2013, 08:04 PM
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Sure you have Kadri, Bozak and mr. overrated (Gardiner), but we have MaxPac, Subban, DD, Eller, Diaz, etc. I think you're just dilusional towards your own team and downright clueless mine. It's ok, I'll laugh when you'll compare Leafs to newfound basement teams while the habs will compete for playoffs spots.
What makes them better than Rielly, Kadri, Gardiner, Frattin, Finn, ETC?

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3-3 with a very young team and lots of cap room. Yeah what a mess

It's funny on HF the Leafs are the biggest mess.
hahaha You honestly think that shows really where the team is at? They have over achieved so far, don't plan the parade route. When you play decent teams when they get their legs they rip you apart.

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01-30-2013, 08:06 PM
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Sure you have Kadri, Bozak and mr. overrated (Gardiner), but we have MaxPac, Subban, DD, Eller, Diaz, etc. I think you're just dilusional towards your own team and downright clueless mine. It's ok, I'll laugh when you'll compare Leafs to newfound basement teams while the habs will compete for playoffs spots.
The fact your bragging about those players only shows how clueless and dismal your team will be in the upcoming years.

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hahaha You honestly think that shows really where the team is at? They have over achieved so far, don't plan the parade route. When you play decent teams when they get their legs they rip you apart.
How so exactly? Their record should be better than it is if anything.

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So you think the Habs were trying to finish top 5 and were building slowly?
They certainly didn't rule it out as a possibility.

Which is why they didn't trade away first round picks.

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Don't blow up anything. Be patient; stress playing those kids who have now acquired minor league experience; keep Rielly on the farm for a year, maybe two; don't make panic trades that cost the team young assets; hold on to 1st and 2nd round draft choices; stick with Reimer for the time being; draft best available centre; reap eventual benefits.
Woah there, can't let ourselves be too reasonable here. We have to keep up a certain level of trolling by Habs fans and self-loathing Leafs fans or else everything goes out of wack.

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How so exactly? Their record should be better than it is if anything.
A lot of teams are rusty right now, and I think as things settle out it will show. how on earth do you think their record should be better?

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The fact your bragging about those players only shows how clueless and dismal your team will be in the upcoming years.
Yeah, I'd much rather be braggin about Kadri, Bozak, Frattin, Franson, Gardiner etc

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They only made a worse trade that set there team back far worse then the kessel trade, the habs were not patient at all, otherwise they would not have traded away there best prospect.
The Leafs haven't made the playoffs once with Kessel.

In fact the Leafs have gotten worse since Kessel got here in Toronto.

Guess that's what happens when you build around one-dimensional wingers.

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They certainly didn't rule it out as a possibility.

Which is why they didn't trade away first round picks.
But Burke didn't trade his first rounder. So obviously he didn't rule it out.

That's your criteria? Isn't signing Cole a sign that they want to get better, not worse?

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Yeah, I'd much rather be braggin about Kadri, Bozak, Frattin, Franson, Gardiner etc
Kadri has 6 points in 6 games, Frattin 5 points in 3 games.

And I never mentioned Franson.

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But Burke didn't trade his first rounder. So obviously he didn't rule it out.

That's your criteria? Isn't signing Cole a sign that they want to get better, not worse?
Oh, so by signing Connolly and Komisarek, Burke was purposely trying to make his team worse ?

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The Leafs haven't made the playoffs once with Kessel.

In fact the Leafs have gotten worse since Kessel got here in Toronto.

Guess that's what happens when you build around one-dimensional wingers.
The Islanders need to stop building around Tavares.

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01-30-2013, 08:11 PM
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Oh, so by signing Connolly and Komisarek, Burke was purposely trying to make his team worse ?
Burke signed Komisarek when he was trying to make the playoffs obviously. Connolly was there to play with Kessel.

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Yeah, I'd much rather be braggin about Kadri, Bozak, Frattin, Franson, Gardiner etc
Again its better then the alternative, you know your in trouble when your bragging about MaxPac, Subban, DD, Eller, Diaz,

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This thread seems to have degenerated into a bash the Leafs thread which seems pretty pointless.
Looking at it as an outsider, I see some very good pieces but some holes as well.
Gardiner and Rielly have the potential to form a great defensive pairing. As good as any young tandem in the league, IMO. Kadri has taken a big step this year and JVR is another goood young player. Add in Kessel and Lupul and some others like Frattin and Kulemin and that's some good forwards. If they can draft another young forward and sign a couple of free agents including a goalie then they could rebuild in maybe a year or two. And there are other prospects in the system who could surprise.

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Kadri has 6 points in 6 games, Frattin 5 points in 3 games.

And I never mentioned Franson.
Damn this is funny. At least I'm giving out players who have complete seasons of success (Subban, MaxPac). I don't bother just listing players on hot starts. The later you will wake up, the more it's gonna hurt, Roger.

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01-30-2013, 08:13 PM
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Again its better then the alternative, you know your in trouble when your bragging about MaxPac, Subban, DD, Eller, Diaz,
To your credit, you didn't add names to try to make his argument worse.

Now apparently I'm bragging about Cody Franson's future.

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Damn this is funny. At least I'm giving out players who have complete seasons of success (Subban, MaxPac). I don't bother just listing players on hot starts. The later you will wake up, the more it's gonna hurt, Roger.
No, instead you listed players with no NHl points.

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The Leafs haven't made the playoffs once with Kessel.

In fact the Leafs have gotten worse since Kessel got here in Toronto.

Guess that's what happens when you build around one-dimensional wingers.
What does that have to do with the gomez trade being worse? where are the habs now after trading away ryan mcdonagh? oh thats right no where.

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To your credit, you didn't add names to try to make his argument worse.

Now apparently I'm bragging about Cody Franson's future.
I know lol, they guy takes players like frattin and acts like the leafs are building around him..only shows how desperate he is to make his team look better.

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Defensively, the Leafs are set for years with Rielly, Gardiner, Finn, Percy, Blacker.

Burke set them up unbelievably with Rielly and Finn in the first two rounds. But people on HF don't want to give their young talent any credit, so most probably think their prospects on defense are just terrible.

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What does that have to do with the gomez trade being worse? where are the habs now after trading away ryan mcdonagh? oh thats right no where.
Yes, the Habs are a McDonaugh away from being great.

As opposed to the Leafs giving away Seguin and Hamilton who each have more points than Kessel so far this season.


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To your credit, you didn't add names to try to make his argument worse.

Now apparently I'm bragging about Cody Franson's future.
Leafs fans in general are big on any young player really. I've even seen you guys mention many times AHLer Korbinian Holzer. That's how little you have to look forward.

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Again its better then the alternative, you know your in trouble when your bragging about MaxPac, Subban, DD, Eller, Diaz,
You don't seem to realize these are huge studs there. Oh well. You look like a pretty simple individual anyway.

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No, instead you listed players with no NHl points.
Goddamnit... what ?

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Leafs fans in general are big on any young player really. I've even seen you guys mention many times AHLer Korbinian Holzer. That's how little you have to look forward.



You don't seem to realize these are huge studs there. Oh well. You look like a pretty simple individual anyway.



Goddamnit... what ?
Solid upside as a shutdown D-Man.

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