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01-30-2013, 12:33 AM
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The fact he's skating is good. Of course he's probably bummed, I wouldn't write him off yet.

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Oh my ****ing god, please come back by the playoffs Brent. We all love you.

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KKurzCSN 12:22pm via Twitter for iPhone Jason Demers is ready to go, coach's decision at this point when he plays. #SJSharks

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With Boyle and Demers back hopefully tomorrow night, we'll look better.

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01-30-2013, 02:44 PM
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With Boyle and Demers back hopefully tomorrow night, we'll look better.
Is there any indication that Boyle will be back? The last update I saw was that he was still sick.

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01-30-2013, 02:53 PM
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Is there any indication that Boyle will be back? The last update I saw was that he was still sick.
Unless Boyle is still actively puking my bet is he plays, especially after what he had to watch last night. Heck I wouldn't be surprised if he skated around with a bucket, guy is a wariror lol.

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01-30-2013, 02:54 PM
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When Demers and Burns are both healthy i think the Sharks should dress 7 D. I used to hate it when Mclellan did it but I could support the idea if it meant Burns using his size and skill up front instead of vandermeer skating around cluelessly. It would add some versatility and we could bench some of our slacking bottom 6 instead of Matt Irwin.

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Gomez Handzus Havlat
Burish Desjardin Galiardi

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01-30-2013, 03:10 PM
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When Demers and Burns are both healthy i think the Sharks should dress 7 D. I used to hate it when Mclellan did it but I could support the idea if it meant Burns using his size and skill up front instead of vandermeer skating around cluelessly. It would add some versatility and we could bench some of our slacking bottom 6 instead of Matt Irwin.

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Irwin Boyle
Braun Demers
Interesting. Well he use to be a forward. I don't think they should put him on the 2nd line though. Maybe 3rd/4th line and D for the PP.

Although I think he would be better off just play D the whole time.

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01-30-2013, 03:11 PM
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When Demers and Burns are both healthy i think the Sharks should dress 7 D. I used to hate it when Mclellan did it but I could support the idea if it meant Burns using his size and skill up front instead of vandermeer skating around cluelessly. It would add some versatility and we could bench some of our slacking bottom 6 instead of Matt Irwin.

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Clowe Couture Burns
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Vlasic Stuart
Irwin Boyle
Braun Demers
So scratch Murray? Don't think they will do that. Irwin will be the odd man out.

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01-30-2013, 04:04 PM
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If we're 6-0 without 3 of our top 6 D, just imagine the groove we can get into when/if we're all healthy

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01-30-2013, 07:27 PM
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If we're 6-0 without 3 of our top 6 D, just imagine the groove we can get into when/if we're all healthy
This is why I don't understand people still saying we should tank.

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01-30-2013, 08:19 PM
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This is why I don't understand people still saying we should tank.
Because we're bottom-5 in Fenwick Close and our winning is due almost entirely to an unsustainable shooting percentage on the top line and Niemi playing out of his mind?

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01-30-2013, 08:32 PM
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Because we're bottom-5 in Fenwick Close and our winning is due almost entirely to an unsustainable shooting percentage on the top line and Niemi playing out of his mind?
If we lose tomorrow I'll consider your side.

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01-30-2013, 08:35 PM
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Because we're bottom-5 in Fenwick Close and our winning is due almost entirely to an unsustainable shooting percentage on the top line and Niemi playing out of his mind?
And though the shooting percentage is unsustainable the team is playing better as a whole, particularly on the PK. Tanking would be foolish and DW has said he will always try to win every year, anything less would be insulting to the fans. I'm cautiously optimistic that we'll continue the high level of play, especially given the significant adversity some of our competition seem to have faced. I think this Sharks team stacks up well against most teams in the west other than the Blues whose style of play negates our puck possession style.


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01-30-2013, 08:36 PM
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Because we're bottom-5 in Fenwick Close and our winning is due almost entirely to an unsustainable shooting percentage on the top line and Niemi playing out of his mind?
When did this board become so into advanced stats? I mean, I appreciate the stats, but when the Sharks are winning, we should just sit back and enjoy it while it lasts.
Just last season, Les Wynan was shunned by practically everyone here for being so stat-crazy. Now that he's gone, more and more people are repeating his arguments. Poor guy.

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01-30-2013, 08:37 PM
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When did this board become so into advanced stats? I mean, I appreciate the stats, but when the Sharks are winning, we should just sit back and enjoy it while it lasts.
Just last season, Les Wynan was shunned by practically everyone here for being so stat-crazy. Now that he's gone, more and more people are repeating his arguments. Poor guy.
Haha agreed!

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01-30-2013, 08:42 PM
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We're now number 7 in Fenwick Close if I'm reading this chart correctly.
http://behindthenet.ca/fenwick_2011....&section=close

And though the shooting percentage is unsustainable the team is playing better as a whole, particularly on the PK. Tanking would be foolish and DW has said he will always try to win every year, anything less would be insulting to the fans. I'm cautiously optimistic that we'll continue the high level of play, especially given the significant adversity some of our competition seem to have faced. I think this Sharks team stacks up well against most teams in the west other than the Blues whose style of play negates our puck possession style.
Those are the numbers from last season. They're 24th so far this year. The Sharks have historically been an excellent puck possession team and I see no reason why they won't get back to that.

Problem is, this season the score hasn't been "close" in games for very long and it skews the numbers. It's something to watch but in my opinion, it's nothing to worry about right now.

Also - I agree with you about this Sharks team, that it has what it takes to win and the fact that DW won't tank.

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Those are the numbers from last season. They're 24th so far this year. The Sharks have historically been an excellent puck possession team and I see no reason why they won't get back to that.

Problem is, this season the score hasn't been "close" in games for very long and it skews the numbers. It's something to watch but in my opinion, it's nothing to worry about right now.
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01-30-2013, 08:57 PM
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Because we're bottom-5 in Fenwick Close and our winning is due almost entirely to an unsustainable shooting percentage on the top line and Niemi playing out of his mind?

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Because we're bottom-5 in Fenwick Close and our winning is due almost entirely to an unsustainable shooting percentage on the top line and Niemi playing out of his mind?
We're also six games into a 48 game season. Sustainability is not as much of a necessity at this stage. They're a good team finding ways to win and it needs to continue as much as it can so they can get into the playoffs. Missing two of their best puck-moving d-men the whole year and last night their best three is going to have an impact on Fenwick.

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Not to mention, when the top 6 shooting percentage goes down, well, the bottom 6 also needs to start scoring aswell.

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Burns skating? Good sign. Any more details on him??

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Sorry to put a damper on things, but I'm a huge proponent of advanced stats.

Obviously not having Burns changes things and it's a small sample size, but it's not like we've been dominating everyone (with the exception of Colorado, and Colorado blows).

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You have two options: 1) Read the thread, or 2) go to the stickied "The "How is _____ doing, I have him on my fantasy team" thread (ALL Fantasy Qs here)" thread. We're not responding to fantasy questions in here.

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apologies there just has been so little released about Burns it's hard to know what's going on or why, such a mystery. I will post in there from now on.

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Kurz believes Burns is a few weeks away from returning.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/kevin...l-burns-return

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