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01-30-2013, 02:30 PM
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Didn't say they were entitled to it. But it's about time we hosted it again.

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01-30-2013, 06:02 PM
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England should have hosted 2 world cups before Russia gets to host its first.

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Isn't this news over a year old?
Over two years old I think...

With two world cups being awarded at the same time, you just knew something fishy (even by the usual FIFA standards) was going to happen with vote trading.

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01-30-2013, 07:03 PM
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England should have hosted 2 world cups before Russia gets to host its first.
I agree, and that's mostly down to the racism aspect. But in terms of stadia and organization, it will be good.

Re: Qatar, I'm bitter over that. It should have been ours or Australia's.

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01-30-2013, 07:05 PM
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didn't FIFA have their own "assessment" team that went to each bidding nation assessing everything and Qatar had the worst ratings? I mean they aren't even hiding it anymore, it is so blatantly obvious...but yet again, c'est la vie, we live in a world ruled by money , it's no surprise

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01-30-2013, 11:37 PM
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If it really was about racism then FIFA should just not have an UEFA host at all since even England has plenty of problems keeping racist fans from her majesty's stadiums.

I'm sure the no jail time community service sentences handed out in the UK for racist physical assaults are really going to scare away racist fans away.

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01-31-2013, 12:05 AM
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If it really was about racism then FIFA should just not have an UEFA host at all since even England has plenty of problems keeping racist fans from her majesty's stadiums.

I'm sure the no jail time community service sentences handed out in the UK for racist physical assaults are really going to scare away racist fans away.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1277841
Racism is a much bigger problem in Russia than anywhere else in Europe, as in its an actual social issue rather than cherry picking isolated events which could be done for just about any country probably

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01-31-2013, 12:24 AM
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Racism is a much bigger problem in Russia than anywhere else in Europe, as in its an actual social issue rather than cherry picking isolated events which could be done for just about any country probably
Yeah it's not a social issue at all when a repeat offender in a large urban area can perpetuate a racially motivated physically assault and receive no jail time, and that these types of incidents are common enough that people expect it to happen. Good thing none of the host cities would have been in large urban areas.

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01-31-2013, 12:43 AM
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That's like saying that because there was a shooting in Liechtenstein there's a comparable issue there about gun violence/control as there's in the US...great logic...not

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01-31-2013, 01:10 AM
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That's like saying that because there was a shooting in Liechtenstein there's a comparable issue there about gun violence/control as there's in the US...great logic...not
Read that thread. Racism in England definitely goes deeper than just "isolated" incidents that go relatively unpunished.

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01-31-2013, 07:48 AM
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Read that thread. Racism in England definitely goes deeper than just "isolated" incidents that go relatively unpunished.
Read the news racism in England doesn't compare to Russia...

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01-31-2013, 08:07 AM
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Read the news racism in England doesn't compare to Russia...
Just to help back up that claim:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...y-players.html

This is from the largest Zenit supporter's club.

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01-31-2013, 08:21 AM
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Zenit is the West Ham of Russia.

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01-31-2013, 08:28 AM
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Zenit is the West Ham of Russia.
But can you imagine the West Ham supporters actually coming out with a statement like that?

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01-31-2013, 09:08 AM
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Qatar is currently ranked 106. Canada is 40 spots ahead of them. Wow!
Didn't think about that, and the host auto-qualifies.

Maybe they'll beat South Africa and the US in the worst host performance sweepstakes?

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01-31-2013, 09:12 AM
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Read that thread. Racism in England definitely goes deeper than just "isolated" incidents that go relatively unpunished.
Racism in England is nowhere near as bad as you think it is. Yes, there's isolated incidents but there are also pockets of people who are racist. But it's a lot worse in Russia and it's a lot more in the open.

England hasn't hosted a world cup in nearly 50 years and for the home of football that's too long. Not saying that we're entitled but I see our bid as being better as Russia's. I can understand why they gave it to them though to grow the game.

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01-31-2013, 09:13 AM
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08-26-2013, 12:54 AM
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Looks like Fifa is looking at having the 2022 world cup played during the winter as Blatter is finally admitting the Summer may not work. This would be a complete disaster as all the major leagues are running during that time and it would require every league to shut down for the better part of a month. It really is too bad they can't change the host country.

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08-26-2013, 02:36 AM
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It's not just the best infrastructure though. It's would've been 52 years since we hosted it in 2018. It's about time we hosted it again when you consider the other countries in Europe that hosted it since.
Tiny Tim: World Cups and Olympics and Turkeys for everyone!

JK, but clearly it shouldn't have gone to the UK. You just hosted the Olympics. I could make an offensive comment right now about it, but I'll take the high road. Russia alone having the winter Olympics AND World Cup within 4 years of each other pisses me off enough as it is.

Yes, as an American, I would like it here. The reality is, and fairly so, it should go to the Aussies. It would be the most suitable/fair

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08-26-2013, 02:36 AM
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This would be a complete disaster as all the major leagues are running during that time and it would require every league to shut down for the better part of a month.
What's so disastrous about shutting down for a month in the winter? Many leagues do just that every season, starting by the German Bundesliga, arguably the best run league in Europe. If anything leagues that don't have a winter break should probably introduce one, disirregardless of the 2022 World Cup.

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08-26-2013, 02:43 AM
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There was something clearly wrong with the entire bidding process for both of those world cups.

FIFA ranks the bids.

The one ranked best for 2018 was first out, the one ranked worst for 2022 won....



It's also no secret Blatter can't stand the home nations FAs.

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08-26-2013, 03:12 AM
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What's so disastrous about shutting down for a month in the winter? Many leagues do just that every season, starting by the German Bundesliga, arguably the best run league in Europe. If anything leagues that don't have a winter break should probably introduce one, disirregardless of the 2022 World Cup.
Well having a World Cup during a winter break kind of defeats the purpose of having, a winter break.

736 players will travel to the World Cup, many of them will be playing highly competitive football for the better part of a month.

So essentially there is no break for a lot of players, and just more games crammed into the 2nd half of the season, even if you extend the season by a month, that isn't enough time to cover the missed games, just going to mean a lot more mid week games etc and non-stop football for essentially 11 months finishing in June 2022, and then the season starting again mid-August with players barely getting any off-season break.

Disastrous.

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It's also no secret Blatter can't stand the home nations FAs.
Can't really blame him for that, they are amongst the most arrogant out there.

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08-26-2013, 03:28 AM
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Can't really blame him for that, they are amongst the most arrogant out there.
It's not that, it's that every time Blatter comes up with a stupid idea it's the FA SFA FAW and FAI that end up vetoing it.

I'm amazed despite him being dragged into corruption scandals regarding the selling of votes for the last 2 World Cup bids he's still in control of FIFA.

Then again he allowed politics to play a roll in the voting process for the world cups.

When asked about who he voted for to receive the 2018 and 2022 World Cup hosting rights Grondona (Argentine) said, "Yes, I voted for Qatar, because a vote for the US would be like a vote for England, and that is not possible [...] But with the English bid I said: Let us be brief. If you give back the Falkland Islands, which belong to us, you will get my vote. They then became sad and left."

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08-26-2013, 03:47 AM
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Meh, Qatar probably could afford to build 8 new stadiums all 60000+ with retractable roof, venue was never a problem.

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I hope 2018 and 2022 become utter failures on and off the pitch.

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