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01-30-2013, 09:01 PM
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Tomorrow could turn out to be an historic day in Quebec City's history, should the Coyotes get relocated here. Or it could be an historic day for Seattle... But if the Coyotes get relocated, and with an expansion looming we have a great shot to get a team back.

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This Jets fan hoping for a Winnipeg Jets vs. Quebec Nordiques game next year!!!!!

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Tomorrow could turn out to be an historic day in Quebec City's history, should the Coyotes get relocated here. Or it could be an historic day for Seattle... But if the Coyotes get relocated, and with an expansion looming we have a great shot to get a team back.

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Tomorrow could turn out to be an historic day in Quebec City's history, should the Coyotes get relocated here. Or it could be an historic day for Seattle... But if the Coyotes get relocated, and with an expansion looming we have a great shot to get a team back.
I'd bet my house on it. I'm that sure Quebec is getting another team.

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01-30-2013, 10:07 PM
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The NHL won't say a word until near the end of the season but this farce is almost over.

Colisee be ready.

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The NHL won't say a word until near the end of the season but this farce is almost over.

Colisee be ready.
Oh dont worry!!! Québec is ready. Its like we have been with a lady doing priliminaries for hours... just ready to get it on!!!!

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Oh dont worry!!! Québec is ready. Its like we have been with a lady doing priliminaries for hours... just ready to get it on!!!!
We are so excited that we are afraid to pop early.

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There will be no relocation announcement until at least mid April. I'M betting there will be a few news reporting that the new mysterious group is close to reaching a deal with the NHL to keep the team in AZ too until the season is over, while in fact the team is just on the verge of being moved to Quebec, Seattle or Markham.

I hope for a Quebec team soon, but I'll probably wait until the end of the season before getting my hopes up.

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There will be no relocation announcement until at least mid April. I'M betting there will be a few news reporting that the new mysterious group is close to reaching a deal with the NHL to keep the team in AZ too until the season is over, while in fact the team is just on the verge of being moved to Quebec, Seattle or Markham.

I hope for a Quebec team soon, but I'll probably wait until the end of the season before getting my hopes up.
i believe that if there is a relocation, it will be announce before the playoffs, if the Coyotes are looking good to make them, cause they wont want to announce this during the playoffs, and if the playoff run goes long like last year, it would not give a lot of time to that city to get prepared. If they choose Seattle, which will have to renovate the Key arena, then announcement might come in march. If Québec is choosen they could wait till april cause renovation will take less time there.

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i believe that if there is a relocation, it will be announce before the playoffs, if the Coyotes are looking good to make them, cause they wont want to announce this during the playoffs, and if the playoff run goes long like last year, it would not give a lot of time to that city to get prepared. If they choose Seattle, which will have to renovate the Key arena, then announcement might come in march. If Québec is choosen they could wait till april cause renovation will take less time there.
There will be some renovations to Key Arena i doubt it'll do anything major that will actually improve the sights.

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Quebec has EVERYTHING in place.

Colisee would be fine for 2 years as the new arena next door is built. TVA Sports would carry the games in French and Sportsnet in English.

Seattle and Markham are 2-3 years away and Key Arena just is just awful for hockey.

Quebecor has been soooooooooooooooo quiet you have to think the NHL has told them sit tight.

Go Nordiques

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Quebec has EVERYTHING in place.

Colisee would be fine for 2 years as the new arena next door is built. TVA Sports would carry the games in French and Sportsnet in English.

Seattle and Markham are 2-3 years away and Key Arena just is just awful for hockey.

Quebecor has been soooooooooooooooo quiet you have to think the NHL has told them sit tight.

Go Nordiques
Yes my thought really, PKP has been talking for 3 years with the NHL and NHL owners, and has been very carefull not to say a word on the subject.

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So is there an expectation that players, coaches and office personnel all speak french in QC? I ask because Tippett and Maloney are some of the best at what they do. Would be a shame to let them go.

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There will be some renovations to Key Arena i doubt it'll do anything major that will actually improve the sights.
Funny thing is, even with cosmetic renovations the Key Arena may STILL be better for hockey than Barcley Center where the Islanders are headed

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As I said last year, if the Yotes are going to get relocated, it won't be announced until after the team's eliminated, whether that be in the regular season or in the playoffs. The last thing that the NHL wants to do is to drive away the relatively few still going away and burn their last attempts to try to squeeze a tiny bit of money back from the situation, after all.

Plus, it's not like QC needs a couple extra months to be ready. They'll be ready if relocation is announced a week or two prior to the preseason.

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Yes my thought really, PKP has been talking for 3 years with the NHL and NHL owners, and has been very carefull not to say a word on the subject.
Bettman said last spring he was fully aware of the new TVA Sports.

I honestly think Bettman's endgame was waiting for the CBA to be done. The NHL KNEW
Jamison didn't have the $$$$$ but they wanted to wait for the new deal.

How the Habs feel about this is unknown but I think this could be a win-win for everyone. Certainly Phoenix will make the Northeast cluster stronger.

Quebec City will be a hard sell for most players as unlike Montreal the English language does vanish away from the walled city and and it is not a case of people refusing to speak English to you.....they simply do not know it.

BTW Colisee had the best hot dogs I have ever eaten.

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Quebec city is a great city and it does have tiny pockets of english and its probaly more coservative than Montreal but too many of the players like Shane Doan it could be a culture shock.But Dale Hunter and Stasny Brothers loved it.

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Quebec city is a great city and it does have tiny pockets of english and its probaly more coservative than Montreal but too many of the players like Shane Doan it could be a culture shock.But Dale Hunter and Stasny Brothers loved it.
I have a weird memory of Quebec City around 1990.

I work as a free lance cameraman and one Saturday afternoon the Nords hosted the Bruins. The crew was put up in Beauport where believe me NOBODY spoke English and my high school French was hindered with a Boston accent.

The game itself was not memorable but the telecast was as Derek Sanderson went gaga over the Nordiques anthem singer that day. Turns out that in Los Angeles a Bruins fan who worked for Disney also went gaga watching the feed on his dish.

The anthem singer? Celine Dion

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So is there an expectation that players, coaches and office personnel all speak french in QC? I ask because Tippett and Maloney are some of the best at what they do. Would be a shame to let them go.
~65% of the city does not speak English. And many that claim they do would know little more than basic English.

It would be nearly as hard not knowing French in Quebec as not knowing English in Phoenix.

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As I said last year, if the Yotes are going to get relocated, it won't be announced until after the team's eliminated, whether that be in the regular season or in the playoffs. The last thing that the NHL wants to do is to drive away the relatively few still going away and burn their last attempts to try to squeeze a tiny bit of money back from the situation, after all.

Plus, it's not like QC needs a couple extra months to be ready. They'll be ready if relocation is announced a week or two prior to the preseason.
I would think that a lot of people would want to see a last game

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So is there an expectation that players, coaches and office personnel all speak french in QC? I ask because Tippett and Maloney are some of the best at what they do. Would be a shame to let them go.
The Nordiques had Dave Chambers and Mark Crawford as coach for a while. One of them didn't speak a single word of French, same for Sakic player. There might have been a few tiny complains by a few medias, but otherwise nobody had any problem with their unilingual anglophone status. On top of that, back then Quebec City was even more Francophone than it is now.

For odd reasons, despite Quebec being much more francophone than Montreal, language issues seems to cause less stir here than there.

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For odd reasons, despite Quebec being much more francophone than Montreal, language issues seems to cause less stir here than there.
The whole language "issue" was always more a Montreal obsession than anything else. For the same reason it was always overhyped by Montreal journalists.

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Funny thing is, even with cosmetic renovations the Key Arena may STILL be better for hockey than Barcley Center where the Islanders are headed
Not really...
  • Key Arena has approx 9,500 reasonably unobstructed seats; Barclay's 14,500
  • Key Arena is ancient; it opened as part of the 1962 World's Fair in Seattle
  • Key Arena has few luxury suites; Barclay's has a whole bunch that generate huge revenues

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The Nordiques had Dave Chambers and Mark Crawford as coach for a while. One of them didn't speak a single word of French, same for Sakic player. There might have been a few tiny complains by a few medias, but otherwise nobody had any problem with their unilingual anglophone status. On top of that, back then Quebec City was even more Francophone than it is now.

For odd reasons, despite Quebec being much more francophone than Montreal, language issues seems to cause less stir here than there.
That's good to hear. I'd love to see what Tippett and Maloney can do with a nice budget and a dedicated owner. The boring style they play now has more to do with a roster devoid of offensive talent rather than a philosophical choice. At any rate, inheriting those two + the Coyotes roster and farm is a playoff team/contender in a box. Much better for QC than an expansion team. But I have to agree with Lebrun that the league might favor expansion in solid markets like QC and TOR2. A relocation makes more sense for Seattle, which needs a team to hit the ground running.

If I had to choose, I'd easily pick QC. I loved the demonstrations where Nord fans flooded games wearing the blue and cheered. No doubt it'd be an amazing market and place to play.

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So is there an expectation that players, coaches and office personnel all speak french in QC? I ask because Tippett and Maloney are some of the best at what they do. Would be a shame to let them go.
For gods sake I hope not. I like the city but I don't wanna live in Montréal #2. To be honest, if you are a tourist, you will be able to get serviced/answered in English without problems. That being said, I think in Downtown MTL you could very well be UNABLE to get answered/services in French even if you beg for it. I think that's the difference.

We gotta land in year 2013 and accept the fact that even Michel Bergeron would coach in English and not in French. So really, forcing a guy to speak French for a 10 min press conference is plain stupid.

On another topic, if there are last minute renovations to be done to the Colisee, Remparts are making sure they don't make playoffs this year thus the season could end as early as March.

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