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01-31-2013, 12:12 PM
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So we have the canes 07, 08, and 12 first round picks.
Good point. Maybe we can wrangle Skinner from them for just about anyone in our organization.

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Bylsma says Boychuk could get work on Malkin's line.
Getting waived and finding yourself on the line of last years MVP...Boychuk must be stunned with disbelief...

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Stopped reading at 5 ft 9 in, 176 lbs.
You can still have success at those numbers.

St. Louis
Marchand
Roy
Sullivan
Enstrom
Savard
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Koivu
Versteeg
Whitney
Gionta
Briere
Recchi
Timonen
Rafalski
Kane

Just a small list of guys that are undersized that had success in the league. Am I saying Boychuk will be as successful? Not at all, but I'm simply claiming that you can't write him off sheerly because of size.

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Getting waived and finding yourself on the line of last years MVP...Boychuk must be stunned with disbelief...
Zero to hero?

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I just like the fact he's a first rounder, that had a legit first round grade.

It's not like he is some scrub that has no ability...ill just wait to see how bad we **** it up.

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Other than Chad LaRose, Boychuk probably was the most polarizing player/prospect on the Canes board. Some have been saying "BUST" for years while others have been saying he just needs a fair chance and let him develop.

The plus is he has good speed and good offensive skills. He has shown in the AHL that he can score and is good on the PP. In order for a young forward to stick with Carolina, he either needs to light it up right away (like Skinner) or be sound in other aspects of his game such as defense, physical play, etc.. (such as Sutter and more recently Tlusty and Bowman).

Whether it's because he hasn't gotten a fair chance or that he just hasn't been able to make the most of his chances, Boychuk hasn't shown enough offense to overcome that he's not great defensively or very strong on the puck and on the small side. In fairness to him, he's only had 1 game this season to show that, and the Canes were terrible as a team that game, but he has had chances in previous years. Since he was once viewed as a top prospect, he has not been able to hold down a roster spot while others (Skinner, Bowman, Dalpe, Tlusty) have. IMO, Bowman, Tlusty and Dalpe don't have the offensive skills that Boychuk does, but they offer up other things (Tlusty and Bowman are very good defensively and can be used to kill penalties for instance).

I think it's a little bit that he hasn't taken advantage of his chances and a little bit that he at times doesn't seem to have gotten a fair chance (although we don't get to see what goes on in practice, team meetings, behind the scenes). I still think that in the right situation, he might be able to put it together. This is as good of a chance as any for him. I won't be upset if he happens to put it together on another team as it was clear that wasn't going to happen in Carolina.

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Getting waived and finding yourself on the line of last years MVP...Boychuk must be stunned with disbelief...
Like getting fired from McDonald's and hired as the CFO of Apple the same week.

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So we have the canes 07, 08, and 12 first round picks.
And our 2009 2nd round pick (Dumoulin).

I think it's only fair that you send back another 1st round pick to the Canes just to even things out. 2004 or 2005 will do.

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Other than Chad LaRose, Boychuk probably was the most polarizing player/prospect on the Canes board. Some have been saying "BUST" for years while others have been saying he just needs a fair chance and let him develop.

The plus is he has good speed and good offensive skills. He has shown in the AHL that he can score and is good on the PP. In order for a young forward to stick with Carolina, he either needs to light it up right away (like Skinner) or be sound in other aspects of his game such as defense, physical play, etc.. (such as Sutter and more recently Tlusty and Bowman).
Oh well, guess he'll be back in Carolina soon then. No worries.

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Other than Chad LaRose, Boychuk probably was the most polarizing player/prospect on the Canes board. Some have been saying "BUST" for years while others have been saying he just needs a fair chance and let him develop.

The plus is he has good speed and good offensive skills. He has shown in the AHL that he can score and is good on the PP. In order for a young forward to stick with Carolina, he either needs to light it up right away (like Skinner) or be sound in other aspects of his game such as defense, physical play, etc.. (such as Sutter and more recently Tlusty and Bowman).

Whether it's because he hasn't gotten a fair chance or that he just hasn't been able to make the most of his chances, Boychuk hasn't shown enough offense to overcome that he's not great defensively or very strong on the puck and on the small side. In fairness to him, he's only had 1 game this season to show that, and the Canes were terrible as a team that game, but he has had chances in previous years. Since he was once viewed as a top prospect, he has not been able to hold down a roster spot while others (Skinner, Bowman, Dalpe, Tlusty) have. IMO, Bowman, Tlusty and Dalpe don't have the offensive skills that Boychuk does, but they offer up other things (Tlusty and Bowman are very good defensively and can be used to kill penalties for instance).

I think it's a little bit that he hasn't taken advantage of his chances and a little bit that he at times doesn't seem to have gotten a fair chance (although we don't get to see what goes on in practice, team meetings, behind the scenes). I still think that in the right situation, he might be able to put it together. This is as good of a chance as any for him. I won't be upset if he happens to put it together on another team as it was clear that wasn't going to happen in Carolina.
He's not coming into a much better scenario here. Our coach isn't one to give extended looks for unproven players. He either produces with Geno/Neal or he's back on the waiver wire IMO.

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Who is the last waiver wire pickup to even do well with the Pens?

Straka, Lang?

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Barely even heard of the guy, he's not playing tonight is he?

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I've just about given up all hole at this point... Unless there is a change behind the Bench & in "system" thinking and work ethic this will continue to be a **** joke team.
Never give up hole.

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Barely even heard of the guy, he's not playing tonight is he?
You should follow hockey, drafts, junior etc.....then maybe you would have heard of him.

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Just fyi...from the Canes Beat Writer:

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Rutherford on what kept Boychuk from being NHL player: "With us, his consistency."

Rutherford said if Pens at some point this year decide to put Boychuk back on waivers, Canes would claim him.
So sounds like they want to keep him, but had to put him on waivers to send him to the AHL or let him rot away in the press box which helps neither party.

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Never give up hole.
I'm thinking that's what we witnessed during last year's playoffs. The entire Pens team "giving up hole" all over the ice.

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Other than Chad LaRose, Boychuk probably was the most polarizing player/prospect on the Canes board. Some have been saying "BUST" for years while others have been saying he just needs a fair chance and let him develop.

The plus is he has good speed and good offensive skills. He has shown in the AHL that he can score and is good on the PP. In order for a young forward to stick with Carolina, he either needs to light it up right away (like Skinner) or be sound in other aspects of his game such as defense, physical play, etc.. (such as Sutter and more recently Tlusty and Bowman).

Whether it's because he hasn't gotten a fair chance or that he just hasn't been able to make the most of his chances, Boychuk hasn't shown enough offense to overcome that he's not great defensively or very strong on the puck and on the small side. In fairness to him, he's only had 1 game this season to show that, and the Canes were terrible as a team that game, but he has had chances in previous years. Since he was once viewed as a top prospect, he has not been able to hold down a roster spot while others (Skinner, Bowman, Dalpe, Tlusty) have. IMO, Bowman, Tlusty and Dalpe don't have the offensive skills that Boychuk does, but they offer up other things (Tlusty and Bowman are very good defensively and can be used to kill penalties for instance).

I think it's a little bit that he hasn't taken advantage of his chances and a little bit that he at times doesn't seem to have gotten a fair chance (although we don't get to see what goes on in practice, team meetings, behind the scenes). I still think that in the right situation, he might be able to put it together. This is as good of a chance as any for him. I won't be upset if he happens to put it together on another team as it was clear that wasn't going to happen in Carolina.
Whoa wait...

Am I to understand the Penguins are not the only team that simply doesn't hand out primo playing time to scorers who when given a chance, never actually score?

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1) wouldn't they have to make room?

2) who is in charge of parade route planning?
Oh, so glad I wasn't drinking anything when reading that.

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Whoa wait...

Am I to understand the Penguins are not the only team that simply doesn't hand out primo playing time to scorers who when given a chance, never actually score?
But did Boychuk ever tie up a guy's stick while someone else made a nice offensive play? And what about center drive? CENTER. DRIVE.

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Canes fan coming in peace also...

For basically three years I've been hoping to see something -- ANYTHING -- out of Boychuk besides unmet expectations. Short of that I just hoped that he could bring some consistency and finally earn a roster spot. My worst fears have been realized as it appears his best chance in the NHL is going to happen somewhere besides Raleigh.

I believe as Boom Boom Anton said, there have probably been few players as polarizing or as frustrating in our organization as Boychuk has, at least on our board.

But as I understand it he's pretty good pals with Brandon Sutter, and you'll either have the steal of the year or we'll be welcoming him back to Charlotte when Niskanen returns.

PS: I'm kinda hoping he gets the #11 sweater too, just to satisfy the somewhat twisted sense of humor Canes fans have here on HF.

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