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02-01-2013, 07:20 AM
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Eller is playing worse...
That's BS. They're equally bad right now but the only difference is that one of them is not in an optimal position to succeed. There's no harm in, for example, switching Eller and Desharnais around for a game or two and see how that works out. That's logically sound coaching, not favoritism.

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You do not trade Eller till you really know what he's made of. We don't. And you will not get a return similar to what we acquired him for by the way.....DD slow start is just that....a slow start. But time to put everything in context. That line isn't the first anymore. As of now, and without Pacioretty, DD is my 3rd line. Which mean that I would try to add Armstrong with DD and Cole. And have Eller centering White and Moen on the 4th.

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I know Eller isn't a winger.
But it's pretty much Wing, 4th line C or Scratch at the moment.
The trade him, no point having him here if he has no future here the longer we keep him on the wing or scratch him the faster his value drops. As much as I don't want this to happen, I think this what it will eventually lead up to since management would never dare trade plekanec, and galchenyuk isnt going anywhere and desharnais is the token French player

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02-01-2013, 07:35 AM
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That's BS
. They're equally bad right now but the only difference is that one of them is not in an optimal position to succeed. There's no harm in, for example, switching Eller and Desharnais around for a game or two and see how that works out. That's logically sound coaching, not favoritism.
No, it's not.

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The trade him, no point having him here if he has no future here the longer we keep him on the wing or scratch him the faster his value drops. As much as I don't want this to happen, I think this what it will eventually lead up to since management would never dare trade plekanec, and galchenyuk isnt going anywhere and desharnais is the token French player
Haaa... The French argument that trumps EVERYTHING!!!

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02-01-2013, 08:05 AM
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No, it's not.
splendid argumentation right there

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02-01-2013, 08:54 AM
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I'm a big DD fan but I'm starting to be worried, he's starting to play like crap and can't beat anyone 1v1. Most other smallish players have speed or stickhandling, DD seems to be overplayed all the time when he can't pass. Even shooting seems to be hard, he misses great scoring chances 'cause he hesitates. I don't know, I'm starting to think he's too unidimensionnal, not good enough overall for higher responsibilities than sheltered offensive third line. Still, I don't think he's a third liner for the NHL, look at championship teams, they all have or had a dominant physical bottom 6 with skilled top 6. Gally should take the no1 center and DD shipped ASAP for a 2nd rounder, we won't win anything with him. Eller would center the third line and add Dumont or Leblanc to this lineup. Rotate Dumont, Leblanc, Moen and Armstrong as healthy scratch. From what I've seen from Eller, he seems stronger on his skates and could be the third line C we need for the long run. Give him confidence and ice time for X sakes. I haven't seen him make a mistake or take a stupid penalty yet.

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02-01-2013, 09:31 AM
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So far it's just a slump but this is Desharnais's year to prove that he belongs on this team long term. If his struggles continue I don't think he is long for this team.

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SLUMP....SLOW START....A BUMP IN THE ROAD??????

Am i reading this right???
Oh boy , oh boy, oh boy

That slump/slow start need to be put in the big picture.
It's not a slow start.....

Here's some fact for you:

DD didn't score a goals in his last 17 games

With loads of PP time and regular ice-time and the best linesmates of
the team.....That's Gomez-Like. Not one single goal, not even by accident. unaccpetable

But sure..he's from here...we don't talk about this.
We protect him and sell him

Normally, a 17 games streak without scoring a single goal for a
so-called first line center, is something to be talk about (In MTL at least)
But it' not.

DD got only 7 passes in his last 17 games

Not so bad? Well, 4 of them were in Powerplay.
So DD only put up 3 passes in 17 games at 5-on-5

Not a single one this year.

You might all think that this is only a slow start,,,,but this is not.
DD picked up where he left!!!

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02-01-2013, 10:30 AM
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The trade him, no point having him here if he has no future here the longer we keep him on the wing or scratch him the faster his value drops. As much as I don't want this to happen, I think this what it will eventually lead up to since management would never dare trade plekanec, and galchenyuk isnt going anywhere and desharnais is the token French player
he has, probably not what we're hoping for though. a Center line of Galchenuyk (when ready) / Plekanec / Eller would be great.

a BIG 3rd line C capable of 30/35 pts while being solid defensively would do us great

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Umm...why pick 17 games? Such an odd number. Oh right. DD scored on the 18th and 19th game.
And how did your boy Eller do during that span?


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SLUMP....SLOW START....A BUMP IN THE ROAD??????

Am i reading this right???
Oh boy , oh boy, oh boy

That slump/slow start need to be put in the big picture.
It's not a slow start.....

Here's some fact for you:

DD didn't score a goals in his last 17 games

With loads of PP time and regular ice-time and the best linesmates of
the team.....That's Gomez-Like. Not one single goal, not even by accident. unaccpetable

But sure..he's from here...we don't talk about this.
We protect him and sell him

Normally, a 17 games streak without scoring a single goal for a
so-called first line center, is something to be talk about (In MTL at least)
But it' not.

DD got only 7 passes in his last 17 games

Not so bad? Well, 4 of them were in Powerplay.
So DD only put up 3 passes in 17 games at 5-on-5

Not a single one this year.

You might all think that this is only a slow start,,,,but this is not.
DD picked up where he left!!!

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02-01-2013, 10:34 AM
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Desharnais sucks. Only reason he is still here is because hes french canadian. He's only as good as patches makes him.

Trade him to tampa where all the habs scrubs go too. I'll pay his ticket out of here and drive him to the airport.

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02-01-2013, 10:37 AM
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Desharnais sucks. Only reason he is still here is because hes french canadian. He's only as good as patches makes him.

Trade him to tampa where all the habs scrubs go too. I'll pay his ticket out of here and drive him to the airport.
agreed, MT should replace him with Blunden, would be much better...



(just in case)

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02-01-2013, 10:40 AM
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DD's just following Ribeiro's path.
-Breakout season
-Slump the following one
-Crucified by fans and media
-Traded

As long as we don't get another Janne Niinimaa

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02-01-2013, 10:48 AM
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Umm...why pick 17 games? Such an odd number. Oh right. DD scored on the 18th and 19th game.
And how did your boy Eller do during that span?
You know what a streak is, right?

Bourque or Gionta or Plekanec don't score for 6-7 games and we go *******!
17 games , not a word

guess why?

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DD's just following Ribeiro's path.
-Breakout season
-Slump the following one
-Crucified by fans and media
-Traded for nothing
-Followed by his best years elsewhere
As long as we don't get another Janne Niinimaa
Fixed.

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You know what a streak is, right?

Bourque or Gionta or Plekanec don't score for 6-7 games and we go *******!
17 games , not a word

guess why?
You're posting on the 15th page of the David Desharnais thread, and it's not a thread praising him...so I'm not sure how you come up with that conclusion.

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Two players not playing well who both had good seasons last year on a bad team.

Clearly the team needs to trade them for... for... well you know, that usual HFBoards trade where you trade the guys you don't like for guys you do like. You know, that trade!

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You're posting on the 15th page of the David Desharnais thread, and it's not a thread praising him...so I'm not sure how you come up with that conclusion.
Not on the hfboards

I'm meaning on all those shows hockey shows.
where thay talked about how and when we're gonna put PK back in the line-up right now!!
Talk about every little dirty things normally

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His decision making looks slower. He also is just moving slower than last year, especially through the neutral zone, he can't hold on to the puck for more than a few seconds before being challenged by a defending player.

I'd place him on the, it would give him less responsibility in terms of carrying the puck and hopefully allow teams to focus in on Eller's puck carrying ability while Cole uses his speed and size to open up space and time. Until Pacioretty comes back, putting DD on the wing and Eller at centre really is the only option without breaking the other lines.

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You know what a streak is, right?

Bourque or Gionta or Plekanec don't score for 6-7 games and we go *******!
17 games , not a word

guess why?
Yes yes, we all know, DD sucked at the end of last year. He 'Only' had a measly 16pts in his last 20 games of last year. Horrible. While your great Eller had a whopping 4G, 2A. Amazing.

Why are you trying so hard to diss DD? Yes, he's sucking right now and isn't the ideal C like your Eller may be but frankly he has proven to produce way more than Eller ever has.

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Yes yes, we all know, DD sucked at the end of last year. He 'Only' had a measly 16pts in his last 20 games of last year. Horrible. While your great Eller had a whopping 4G, 2A. Amazing.
DD still played with consistent and greater line-mates.

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DD still played with consistent and greater line-mates.
And no PP time. Also faced tougher opposition and had different responsibilities from the coaching staff.

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And no PP time. Also faced tougher opposition and had different responsibilities from the coaching staff.
Regardless. It's so stupid to polarize the fan base by these insane PLAYER VS. PLAYER campaigns.

DD will be moved to the wing if he wants to stay in Montreal.

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Regardless. It's so stupid to polarize the fan base by these insane PLAYER VS. PLAYER campaigns.

DD will be moved to the wing if he wants to stay in Montreal.
I would disagree in the short-term, but long-term, definitely, unless Galchenyuk really develops quickly, then we might see that move happen sooner.

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