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02-01-2013, 07:43 AM
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Seriously. Everyone has been *****ing that Richards is the only good center on this team. Trade Stepan and it actually holds weight. I would love to see what our Center depth looks like with an aging Richards.
Richards scares me. I wanted him in NY, but not at that length of contract.

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Richards scares me. I wanted him in NY, but not at that length of contract.
Which is why trading Stepan is hilarious. Richie would get old real fast and Weiss would take UFA status. What are we left with?

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Which is why trading Stepan is hilarious. Richie would get old real fast and Weiss would take UFA status. What are we left with?
Boyle!!!!

Oh and JT Miller who is definitely NHL ready right now!!! Rush the prospects! They have to be better than regular everyday playerz!! I brought em up in NHL '13 and they rocked!!!

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How I wish I could somehow tattoo Stepan's age onto this board's index somewhere.

22. Twenty-two. 11 X 2. A year removed from our country's legal drinking age. By seasons end, he'll be 23.

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How I wish I could somehow tattoo Stepan's age onto this board's index somewhere.

22. Twenty-two. 11 X 2. A year removed from our country's legal drinking age. By seasons end, he'll be 23.
That's old for people around here. They want a team full of 18 year olds or 35 year olds.

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I want Raffi Torres on this team.

Fast, sound defensively, can chip in offensively and loves to take the body.

Does he go overboard from time to time, yes he does and I'm 100% ok with that.

This is a very vanilla team to play against.

No grit, no sandpaper.

Rupp and Asham can and do take the body, but by the time they get there, the play is already two passes away so whatever contact they initiate is for naught.

Boyle? Sandpaper? Grit? as I'm trying the words on the same line I am laughing.

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Richards scares me. I wanted him in NY, but not at that length of contract.
I agree. I'm worried. He's starting to look like he's declining. Hope not.

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I want Raffi Torres on this team.

Fast, sound defensively, can chip in offensively and loves to take the body.

Does he go overboard from time to time, yes he does and I'm 100% ok with that.

This is a very vanilla team to play against.

No grit, no sandpaper.

Rupp and Asham can and do take the body, but by the time they get there, the play is already two passes away so whatever contact they initiate is for naught.

Boyle? Sandpaper? Grit? as I'm trying the words on the same line I am laughing.
takes too many suspensions and dumb penalties.. i really wanted Steve Ott. he is at least useful and can win faceoffs. i also wouldnt mind Dorsett or Boll from the Jackets..

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Richards scares me. I wanted him in NY, but not at that length of contract.
Thank god for that buy-out option after 13-14'.

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takes too many suspensions and dumb penalties.. i really wanted Steve Ott. he is at least useful and can win faceoffs. i also wouldnt mind Dorsett or Boll from the Jackets..
the suspensions I can do without.

I'm OK with the penalties.

I'd rather have someone get penalized for being to rambunctious than a lazy hooking or holding penalty.

I'll take a roughing, boarding or highsticking penalty every day over the lazy ones.

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I agree.

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IF Richards stinks for two yrs then sure buy him out BUT he's not gonna suck, he's gonna be just fine, its 7 games, not the end of the world people

I dont understand how people dont realize this already The Kings sucked last yr then won the cup......guess what the Kings suck so far this yr..............there is time to get back on track......they didnt have a regular training camp.

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SIGNED PLAYERS & TEAM CONTRACT STATUS 2013/2014

Vancouver
$60,403,333 =$3,596,667 in capspace
14 players signed - missing 9 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $399,629
UFA (Malhotra, Mason, Higgins, Lapierre, Ebbett, Volpatti, Alberts, Barker)
RFA (Shroeder, Tanev, Weise)

Chicago
$60,273,462 = $4,026,538 in capspace
18 players signed - missing player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $805,307
UFA (Stalberg, Mayers, Bickell, Rozsival, Emery)
RFA (Kruger, Leddy)

Tampa Bay
$56,826,083 = $7,473,917 in capspace
15 players signed - missing 8 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $934,940
UFA (Crombeen, Thompson, Hall, Labrie, Bergeron, Garon)
RFA (Taormina, Aulie, Pouliot, Mikkelson)

San Jose
$53,726,667 = $10,573,333 in capspace
13 players signed - missing 10 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $1,057,333
UFA (Clowe, Handzus, Gomez, Murray, Greiss)
RFA (Galiardi, Sheppard, Desjardins, Irwin, Petreki, Demers)

Boston
$57,178,095 = $7,121,905 in capspace
17 players signed - missing 6 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $1,186,984
UFA (Horton, Ference, Johnson, Thomas, Khudobin)
RFA (Rask, MacDermid)

Montreal
$56,118,333 = $8,181,667 in capspace
17 players signed - missing 6 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $1,363,611
UFA (Armstrong, Nokelainen, Bouillon, Budaj)
RFA (Desharnais, White, Pulshaj, Blunden, Weber)

Los Angeles
$48,722,727 = $15,577,273 in capspace
12 players signed - missing 11 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $1,416,116
UFA (Gagne, Penner, Richardson, Scuderi, Drewskie)
RFA (Clifford, Lewis, Nolan, Voynov, Martinez, Muzzin, Bodnarchuk, Bernier)

Pittsburgh
$52,798,333 = $11,501,667 in capspace
15 players signed - missing 8 player contracts
Average caphit = $1,437,708
UFA (Cooke, Dupuis, Adams, Lovejoy)
RFA (Kennedy, Tangradi, Boychuk, Jeffry, Bortuzzo)

New York Rangers
$53,154,167 = $11,145,833 in cap space
16 players signed - missing 7 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $1,592,262
UFA (Halpern, Eminger, Gilroy)
RFA (Stepan, Hagelin, McDonaugh, Ferriero, Sauer)

Philadelphia
$56,074,881 = $8,225,119 in capspace
18 players signed - missing 5 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $1.645,023
UFA (Knuble, Fedotenko, Shelly, Timonen, Foster, Lilja, Leighton, Boucher)
RFA (Rinaldo, Sesito)
Pronger LTIR???

Buffalo
$50,930,357 = $13,369,643 in capspace
15 players signed - missing 8 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $1,671,205
UFA (Hecht, Scott, Ellis, Regehr, Leopold, Pardy, Sulzer)
RFA (Hodgson, Weber, Brennan, Enroth)

Washington
$43,905,128 = 20,394,872 in capspace
11 players signed - missing 12 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $1,699,572
UFA (Ribeiro, Crabb, Hendricks, Wolski, Fehr, Hamrlik, Poti, Erskine, Hillen)
RFA (Johansson, Alzner, Kundratek, Neuvirth, Holtby)

Carolina
$50,665,500 = $13,635,000
15 players signed - missing 8 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $1,704,375
UFA (Semin, Larose, Stewart, Brent, Corvo, Ellis)
RFA (Dalpe, Sanguinetti, Nodl)

Toronto
$47,149,167 = $17,150,833 in capspace
13 players signed - missing 10 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $1,715,083
UFA (Connolly, MacArthur, Bozak, Steckel, Orr, Hamilton, Kostka)
RFA (Kadri, Komarov, McLaren, Gunnarsson, Fransson, Fraser, Holzer)

Detroit
$45,146,212 = 14,853,788 in capspace
15 players signed - missing 8 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $1,856,724
UFA (Filppula, Cleary, Brunner, Miller, White, Huskins, Howard, McDonald)
RFA (Nyquist, Mursak, Kindl, Smith, Lashoff)

Calgary
$48,765,000 = $15,535,000 in capspace
15 players signed - missing 8 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $1,941,875
UFA (Iginla, Cervenka, Comeau, Begin, Babchuk)
RFA (Backlund, Butler, Brodie, Irving)

Minnesota
$50,123,868 = $14,176,132 in capspace
16 players signed - missing 7 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $2,025,161
UFA (Bouchard, Cullen, Backstrom)
RFA (Clutterbuck, Scandella, Falk, Spurgeon)

Nashville
$45,347,143 = $18,952,867 in capspace
14 players signed - missing 9 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $2,105,874
UFA (Yip, McGratton, Hannon, Mason)
RFA (Hornqvist, Spaling, Halsischuk, Blum, Josi)

Phoenix
$32,962,500 = $31,337,500 in capspace
10 players signed - missing 13 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $2,410,577
UFA (Sullivan, Lombardi, Torres, Gordon, Johnson, Chipchura, Bolduc, Smith, LaBarbera)
RFA (Korpikoski, Boedker, Ekman-Larsson, Rundblad, Stone, Summers, Schlemko)

Winnipeg
$34,735,833 = $29,564,167 in capspace
11 players signed - missing 12 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $2,463,681
UFA (Antropov, Ponikarovsky, Wellwood, Miettinen, Gagnon, Hainsey, Clitsome, Montoya)
RFA (Burmistrov, Cormier, Peluso, Bogosian, Redmond, Postma)

Edmonton
$44,527,500= $19,772,500 in capspace
15 players signed - missing 8 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $2,471,563
UFA (Jones, Hordichuk, Petrell, Whitney, Smid, Sutton, Fistric, Khabibulin, Dannis)
RFA (Gagner, Hartikainen, Peckham, Pääjärvi)

Ottawa
$37,840,000 = $26,460,000 in capspace
13 players signed - missing 10 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $2,545,000
UFA (Alfredsson, Latendresse, Regin, Gonchar, Lundin, Benoit)
RFA (Daugavins, Condra, Wiercioch, Borowiecki, Bishop)

Florida
$43,852,875 = $20,447,125 in capspace
16 players signed - missing 7 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $2,921,018
UFA (Weiss, Kovalev, Smithson, Strachan, Theodore)
RFA (Ellerby, Caruso, Mueller, Santorelli, Mathias, Skille)

St Louis
$30,883,333 = $33,416,667 in capspace
12 players signed - missing 11 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $3,037,878
UFA (McDonald, Langenbrunner, Nichol, Redden)
RFA (Stewart, Berglund, D´Agostini, Pietrangelo, Russell, Cole, Shattenkirk)

Columbus
$39,950,476 = $24,349,524 in capspace
15 players signed - missing 8 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $3,043,691
UFA (Prospal, Aucoin, Letestu, McElhinney)
RFA (Anisimov, Atkinson, Calvert, Gillies, Savard, Mason, Bobrovsky)

Dallas
$39,142,777 = $25,157,223
15 players signed - missing 8 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $3,144,653
UFA (Jagr, Morrow, Roy, Ryder, Nystrom, Nihlstorp)
RFA (Wandell, Vincour, Benn, Bachman)

New Jersey
$38,955,000 = $25,345,000 in capspace
15 players signed - missing 8 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $3,169,375
UFA (Elias, Zubrus, Clarkson, Anderson, Janssen, Zidlicky, Harrold)
RFA (Josefson, Henrique)

New York Islanders
$29,137,333 = $35,162,667 in capspace
12 players signed - missing 11 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $3,196,606
UFA (Reasoner, Boyes, McDonald, Aucoin, Boulton, Visnovsky, Streit, Martinek, Nabokov)
RFA (Bailey, Ullström, Joensuu, Hamonic, Hickey, Wishart)

Anaheim
$36,284,167 = $28,015,833 in capspace
16 players signed - missing 7 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $4,002,262
UFA (Getzlaf, Perry, Selanne, Koivu, Lydman, Fasth)
RFA (Palmieri, McMillan, Beleskey)

Colorado
$47,088,333 = $17,211,667 in capspace
20 players signed - missing 3 player contracts
Average caphit remaining players = $5,737,222
UFA (Hejduk, Kobasew, Bordeleau, O´Byrne)
RFA (none)
Ryan O´Reilly still unsigned as a RFA for the 2013 season

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TOTAL # of PLAYERS SIGNED after 2013/2014 = 439
TOTAL # PLAYERS REMAINING = 241

UFAs after 2013/2014 - 175
RFAs after 2013/2014 - 146
UNSIGNED RFAs for 2013 = 1
% of league up for new contract - 35%

TOTAL POSSIBLE SALARY 2013/2014 - $1,929,000,000
TOTAL SALARY SIGNED - $1,392,688,581
TOTAL SALARY REMAINING (THEORETICAL) - $536,311,419
Average salary for currently signed NHL players - $3,172,411
Average salary NHL (if all teams go top capmax - which they of course will not) - $2,796,652
Average maximum signing (if all teams go top cap max next year - which they of course will not) for remaining free agents = $2,225,359
As you can clearly see - there will be some teams in pretty bad trouble regarding cap space next year...
The players are going to take quite a drop for all those (35%) of the contracts up for negotiation coming next year. Owners knew what they were doing here.
Add to this the possibilities of a significant amount of compliance buyouts (creating new free agents) and I think we will see a lot of action and movement the next 9 months. A real lot of good possibilities are going to appear, patience now needs to be a virtue here not taking on any several year contracts now...unless something great comes along...


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the suspensions I can do without.

I'm OK with the penalties.

I'd rather have someone get penalized for being to rambunctious than a lazy hooking or holding penalty.

I'll take a roughing, boarding or highsticking penalty every day over the lazy ones.
agree but its the lazy ones that is hurting this team at this time, especially those stupid too many men on the ice penalties

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How I wish I could somehow tattoo Stepan's age onto this board's index somewhere.

22. Twenty-two. 11 X 2. A year removed from our country's legal drinking age. By seasons end, he'll be 23.
His age doesnt change the fact this is supposed to be a Stanley Cup contending team.

Nor does it explain why he actually seems to be regressing.

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Weiss would be a phenomenal rental. Problem is, what price do we pay for that rental? Florida will want quality and some team who hopes to re-sign him will offer more than we can really afford to, IMO.
Gaustad cost Nashville a #1 last year.
I would imagine that will be Florida's asking price and someone will pay it (not us).

Its better to take a flyer on someone that will not cost any assets and maybe hit lightning in a bottle. They were looking to do that already with Arnott, so I would assume Glen will go this route.

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Agreed only UFA expiring contracts are to be brought in.

Halpern, Eminger, Gilroy make peanuts so thats not going to help the cap situation as players that may replace then will likely make the same amount.

Sauer is off the books unfortunately as they are not going to qualify someone with a concussion. Hope he continues his career on a two way deal

They need to get Rupp out of here somehow as you cant pay 1.5 for a 4th liner......Haley looks to be a waste of cap space

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His age doesnt change the fact this is supposed to be a Stanley Cup contending team.

Nor does it explain why he actually seems to be regressing.
I remember last season when he had 1 point in his first 8 games he was "regressing" as well.

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I remember last season when he had 1 point in his first 8 games he was "regressing" as well.
And I dont want this thread to continue going off the rails that he needs to be traded or anything crazy. I hope he turns it up like he did last season. We'll see. But man, when hes struggling out there, it just seems like its more noticeable than most players - I cant quite put my finger on why.

Anyway, like I said, the "Hes 22, give him a break" **** isnt going to fly with me this season. He has 2 solid seasons under his belt and is now the 2C on an upper-echelon team. He needs to play better, period.

Part of that is on him, and part of that is on Torts. Step could use a lifeline on the wing one of these days.

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And I dont want this thread to continue going off the rails that he needs to be traded or anything crazy. I hope he turns it up like he did last season. We'll see. But man, when hes struggling out there, it just seems like its more noticeable than most players - I cant quite put my finger on why.

Anyway, like I said, the "Hes 22, give him a break" **** isnt going to fly with me this season. He has 2 solid seasons under his belt and is now the 2C on an upper-echelon team. He needs to play better, period.

Part of that is on him, and part of that is on Torts. Step could use a lifeline on the wing one of these days.
I certainly agree that I'd like to see more from him, but I just don't think you can say he's regressing this early in the year.

I also agree that he could use a better winger. Tortorella insists on forcing that Stepan/Callahan combination and it's detrimental to both players, IMO. He seems to have a little bit of chemistry with Pyatt, and we know he's clicked with Gaborik. I think it's clear as day that they should be tried together.

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I certainly agree that I'd like to see more from him, but I just don't think you can say he's regressing this early in the year.

I also agree that he could use a better winger. Tortorella insists on forcing that Stepan/Callahan combination and it's detrimental to both players, IMO. He seems to have a little bit of chemistry with Pyatt, and we know he's clicked with Gaborik. I think it's clear as day that they should be tried together.
Yes, and Ive liked the way Nash and Richards have worked together.

A Nash/Richards and Stepan/Gaborik tandem on the top 2 lines seems like a no-brainer. I dont even particularly care who fills the other two spots available.

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And I dont want this thread to continue going off the rails that he needs to be traded or anything crazy. I hope he turns it up like he did last season. We'll see. But man, when hes struggling out there, it just seems like its more noticeable than most players - I cant quite put my finger on why.

Anyway, like I said, the "Hes 22, give him a break" **** isnt going to fly with me this season. He has 2 solid seasons under his belt and is now the 2C on an upper-echelon team. He needs to play better, period.

Part of that is on him, and part of that is on Torts. Step could use a lifeline on the wing one of these days.
Fair enough. I just get a little sick of all the harping on him seven games into the season.

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Yes, and Ive liked the way Nash and Richards have worked together.

A Nash/Richards and Stepan/Gaborik tandem on the top 2 lines seems like a no-brainer. I dont even particularly care who fills the other two spots available.
100% agree. I know depth isn't a strength to begin with but overloading the top line with Nash-Richie-Gabs makes it even worse.

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100% agree. I know depth isn't a strength to begin with but overloading the top line with Nash-Richie-Gabs makes it even worse.
I just hit me that our 4th line last night was Stu-Halpern-Asham.

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It would certainly help Stepan and others, if Nash & Richards started producing like established veterans. Stepan is currently playing with players that probaly have a combined 50 NHL goals (excluding Callahan) and 100 points. It's great to be putting pressure on a 22 yr old while excusing the big acquisitions of the past couple of years!

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