I may be a bit biased having gone to so many Moosehead games, but I'd go with MacKinnon at 1st. This kid just oozes skill and will. I can't remember a shift he's played where he didn't create something from nothing. Drouin is special too, but MacKinnon is on a slightly higher level.
Jones, I see Jones as the next Pronger, so leaning to MacKinnon says alot.
But skill and work ethic doesn't mean he should go over Jones, who's arguably the best defensive prospect since Pronger (But could be passed next year with Ekblad...) MacKinnon is in the mold of a Taylor Hall, reckless, speed demon, highly skilled, great work ethic but without elite level hockey sense. It's still on a high level but it's not elite like a Tavares.
People criticize Jones' hockey sense, but I don't see why. He's got elite hockey sense and an all-aroud game not seen since Pronger. He's got the potential to be a 15-50 defensemen, with elite level defense and solid physical play. I've never been as sure about a defensive prospect before.
But skill and work ethic doesn't mean he should go over Jones, who's arguably the best defensive prospect since Pronger (But could be passed next year with Ekblad...) MacKinnon is in the mold of a Taylor Hall, reckless, speed demon, highly skilled, great work ethic but without elite level hockey sense. It's still on a high level but it's not elite like a Tavares.
People criticize Jones' hockey sense, but I don't see why. He's got elite hockey sense and an all-aroud game not seen since Pronger. He's got the potential to be a 15-50 defensemen, with elite level defense and solid physical play. I've never been as sure about a defensive prospect before.
surprised that Burakowsky is at 14. He was pretty bad so far this year and he is dropping in a lot of the other lists. For example Craig Button has him at 40.
Also think that Lehkonen should be a bit higher
He's been a little better lately, but it all goes hand in hand with ice time. There are no TOI stats tracked in SEL2, but I would estimate Burakovsky has averaged 7-8 minutes this season. The way he's dominated against his age group has kept him high. Big U18 Worlds coming for him.
I can't figure out why Zykov is ranked so low, if he's talked about so highly, unless skating, defense and the Russian factor are issues, sounds like one of the rare Russians that has the right attitude, very determined player, unlike most who just try and coast on their talent.
I can't figure out why Zykov is ranked so low, if he's talked about so highly, unless skating, defense and the Russian factor are issues, sounds like one of the rare Russians that has the right attitude, very determined player, unlike most who just try and coast on their talent.
I love how a stereotype created by the minority of Russian players is used to identify the majority of Russians.
Every country has players with attitude problems... The Russian Factor is getting ridiculous.
Seth Jones will be number one, unless a team is flush with dprospects picks first. I could see Columbus going with a center instead, or maybe trading down.
There is still months of hockey to be played before the draft, if anybody thinks there is a big gap between Jones and Mackinnon they are out to lunch. It is still anybody's game.
You are kidding, right?
To say that "_________ (Jones or MacKinnon, pick your player) is ahead of ________ (Jones or MacKinnon) without question" is an ignorant comment.
Lazar continues to slip. I remember earlier in the season many were speaking of him as a possible top 10 pick.
He's not putting up the points people expected from him. To be honest, folks in Edmonton are still really impressed by him, he brings it and has tons of intangibles. With the way this draft is shaping up, some very good players are going to have to drop. But IMO some team is going to be very happy if he slips to the late first.
You are kidding, right?
To say that "_________ (Jones or MacKinnon, pick your player) is ahead of ________ (Jones or MacKinnon) without question" is an ignorant comment.
No. Its my opinion. Ive seen both players play numerous times over a decent period of time, so it is not "ignorant". It may not be an opinion you agree with, but I guess that would be your problem, not mine.
can we keep track of how many lists that didnt have Mueller top 30 before this came out have him in the top 30 after?....
Ya, there are only five guys in his top 30 that aren't in mine, and Mueller is by far the biggest surprise for me. I just see quite a few defenders being more balanced and or having quite a bit higher upside for Mueller to be there. I see Chris Bigras, Ian McCoshen, Keaton Thompson and Madison Bowey being a level above Mueller, but hey, that's why we all talk about prospects. If it was clear cut, then we'd only have to talk about draft order!
Biggest surprises for me:
1. Mirco Mueller...He sits at 50 on my list.
2. Alexander Wennberg - I have him outside my first round. My viewings of him were earlier in the year, and although I thought he was good, I didn't see a first round talent. I will be watching him more as I have been hearing good things and believe he will be a riser if the reviews I've read are accurate. He sits at 41 on my list.
3. Connor Hurley - I can't imagine a kid this creative and offensively gifted not being a first rounder. That said, it is very tough to project a kid playing high school hockey, so maybe I am overprojecting him? He sits at 25 on my list.