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RD Ryan Sproul (2011, 55th overall, Detroit)

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01-06-2013, 02:06 PM
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Haha talk about a hot streak. Will be interesting to see how he does in the AHL, the ceiling is high on this kid

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8 goals in 6 games for a defenseman. Not bad

32 points in 24 games now

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At what point do we start taking this guy seriously? He's still going, so it's not just a hot streak. He's putting up 1.28 PPG, which is similar to #8 in league wide scoring (for all players, not just D). He's not on a great team, and their power play is good but not overwhelming, so it's not like he's riding a hot team or a hot PP.

With Hamilton out of the league, Sproul should be the top defensive scorer even having missed games. Maybe I'm a homer, but that seems pretty impressive. Also worth noting that Sproul has the exact same PPG as Hamilton did before he left the OHL.

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01-29-2013, 03:04 PM
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At what point do we start taking this guy seriously? He's still going, so it's not just a hot streak. He's putting up 1.28 PPG, which is similar to #8 in league wide scoring (for all players, not just D). He's not on a great team, and their power play is good but not overwhelming, so it's not like he's riding a hot team or a hot PP.

With Hamilton out of the league, Sproul should be the top defensive scorer even having missed games. Maybe I'm a homer, but that seems pretty impressive. Also worth noting that Sproul has the exact same PPG as Hamilton did before he left the OHL.
If he were picked 15 picks earlier in the first round he would probably be talked about like crazy but he came of nowhere, was a mid second rounder and didnt quite make the world junior team (Spotts dumb). He would get a lot more hype if any of those things happened but they didnt.

He is really raw but a 6'4 fast skating dman that produces like this is really promising for the wings, especially with Ouellet coming along too.

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01-30-2013, 04:52 PM
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a 6'4 fast skating dman that produces like this is really promising for the wings, especially with Ouellet coming along too.
I didn't realize he was that big.

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After seeing Xavier Ouellet do so well in the World Juniors (mind you he stuck out against the lesser countries) and the Subway CHL/Russian series, I like him over Ryan Sproul. Having said that, Sproul has bigger boom-and-bust potential vs. Ouellet, who looks like the safer bet to project as a viable NHL defenseman. Sproul's boom is BOOM! But his offence may not be enough to carry him. Would be scary good if both develop into top 4 guys for the Red Wings.

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01-31-2013, 02:15 PM
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After seeing Xavier Ouellet do so well in the World Juniors (mind you he stuck out against the lesser countries) and the Subway CHL/Russian series, I like him over Ryan Sproul. Having said that, Sproul has bigger boom-and-bust potential vs. Ouellet, who looks like the safer bet to project as a viable NHL defenseman. Sproul's boom is BOOM! But his offence may not be enough to carry him. Would be scary good if both develop into top 4 guys for the Red Wings.
Thats pretty much how all wing fans feel. If Sproul hits his potential its the sky, but hes really risky. Ouellet looks like a very safe bet to be a good NHLer, maybe even a number 2 dman but he just doesnt have the skill set to make him that absolute stud offensive guy. Maybe in a couple years Sproul and Ouellet will be the second pairing behind Kronwall and Smith

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could be a Kurtis Foster type if his defensive game doesn't develop, better skater than Foster to.

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01-31-2013, 06:08 PM
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could be a Kurtis Foster type if his defensive game doesn't develop, better skater than Foster to.
I was thinking Marc Andre Bergeron if his defensive game goes nowhere.

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01-31-2013, 08:01 PM
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I was thinking Marc Andre Bergeron if his defensive game goes nowhere.
You realize MAB is extremely small while Sproul is 6'4"...if anything his game could be like Cody Franson...that would be if nothing else develops well.

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01-31-2013, 11:24 PM
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Well people compare Sproul- Ouellet to the Weber- Suter pairing. Obviously they don't have the exact same styles, but fairly similar. It'd be amazing if they pan out to be all star 1st pairings.

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Well people compare Sproul- Ouellet to the Weber- Suter pairing. Obviously they don't have the exact same styles, but fairly similar. It'd be amazing if they pan out to be all star 1st pairings.
That's what we're all dreaming for, but I think the more likely scenario is a solid second pairing. Their games compliment one another tremendously.

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You realize MAB is extremely small while Sproul is 6'4"...if anything his game could be like Cody Franson...that would be if nothing else develops well.
Franson isnt a bad comparison, thats more of his middle to lower end I would think based on the offense hes putting up this year

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Well people compare Sproul- Ouellet to the Weber- Suter pairing. Obviously they don't have the exact same styles, but fairly similar. It'd be amazing if they pan out to be all star 1st pairings.
I hate that comparison. Ouellet is the steady defensive guy like what Suter would be, except Ouellet is the more rugged of the 2. Sproul just has a big shot and puts up offense but isnt really physical.

Could they both be top pairing guys? Maybe but I wouldnt get your hopes up

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02-01-2013, 02:40 PM
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Franson is a great comparison.

Fortunately for Wings fans, Franson's ability doesn't reflect how he's played in TO. Completely mishandled for the last two years.

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Franson is a great comparison.

Fortunately for Wings fans, Franson's ability doesn't reflect how he's played in TO. Completely mishandled for the last two years.
I think the Franson comparison might be apt, except that Sproul's skating (in my opinion) is far superior to Franson's.

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Hopefully for the Wings he turns out to be better than Franson who could barely hack it in the SEL.

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02-01-2013, 05:35 PM
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People in this thread seem to be talking about Sproul like he's some major defensive liability. Is he a perfect defender? Absolutely not, few CHL blueliners are. Is he a valuable two-way player? Yes.

Sproul is the type of defender who loves to take chances. He's VERY active off the rush and because of this, he can occasionally get pinned deep. But his above average skating ability usually allows him to get back to cover his position. There's no question that he'll have to refine his offensive tendencies at the next level. But most players do. Many of the elite offensive defenseman to come through the OHL in the past few years (Doughty, Pietrangelo, Hamilton, etc) have had the tendency to get caught in the offensive zone. The thinking is that they're creating more offense by being aggressive, than they're giving up scoring chances from it. Every once in a while, if you play that way, you'll get burned. But it certainly helps when you skate like Sproul does (or the above guys do). All three of the above guys (save maybe Hamilton who's still learning) refined their offensive approaches to pick their spots better. Sproul will have to learn to do the same and I have faith that he will.

In the defensive end, Sproul defends off the rush quite well. His size and mobility make him a tough beat to the net. He could certainly stand to play more physical one on one, but he's much more of a stick checker. Many defenseman in the NHL are effective using this method. In the corners is where Sproul doesn't hesitate to use his size. He will fight for loose pucks and he will put his man down hard if he has to. I think that once he enters the pro game, this aggressive aspect to his game will only grow more (judging by the feedback I've gotten about his performances at the Red Wings prospect camps).

The area that he needs to work on is his coverage in the zone, and his ability to tie up forwards near the crease. The former is something he's been working on since he entered the OHL and it's an area he has made progress in. He does occasionally make poor reads and can occasionally get caught in no man's land watching the play unfold. But this is something that can be taught. The later (tying up forwards) is an area that should develop with added strength. He'll need to play more physical near the crease at the next level to survive. And more often then net, bigger defenseman rise to this challenge.

I've long been a massive fan of Sproul and the potential he possesses. Those comparing him to the likes of MA Bergeron have no idea what type of player he is. He's definitely a very underrated prospect.

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3 point night so far tonight.

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People in this thread seem to be talking about Sproul like he's some major defensive liability. Is he a perfect defender? Absolutely not, few CHL blueliners are. Is he a valuable two-way player? Yes.

Sproul is the type of defender who loves to take chances. He's VERY active off the rush and because of this, he can occasionally get pinned deep. But his above average skating ability usually allows him to get back to cover his position. There's no question that he'll have to refine his offensive tendencies at the next level. But most players do. Many of the elite offensive defenseman to come through the OHL in the past few years (Doughty, Pietrangelo, Hamilton, etc) have had the tendency to get caught in the offensive zone. The thinking is that they're creating more offense by being aggressive, than they're giving up scoring chances from it. Every once in a while, if you play that way, you'll get burned. But it certainly helps when you skate like Sproul does (or the above guys do). All three of the above guys (save maybe Hamilton who's still learning) refined their offensive approaches to pick their spots better. Sproul will have to learn to do the same and I have faith that he will.

In the defensive end, Sproul defends off the rush quite well. His size and mobility make him a tough beat to the net. He could certainly stand to play more physical one on one, but he's much more of a stick checker. Many defenseman in the NHL are effective using this method. In the corners is where Sproul doesn't hesitate to use his size. He will fight for loose pucks and he will put his man down hard if he has to. I think that once he enters the pro game, this aggressive aspect to his game will only grow more (judging by the feedback I've gotten about his performances at the Red Wings prospect camps).

The area that he needs to work on is his coverage in the zone, and his ability to tie up forwards near the crease. The former is something he's been working on since he entered the OHL and it's an area he has made progress in. He does occasionally make poor reads and can occasionally get caught in no man's land watching the play unfold. But this is something that can be taught. The later (tying up forwards) is an area that should develop with added strength. He'll need to play more physical near the crease at the next level to survive. And more often then net, bigger defenseman rise to this challenge.

I've long been a massive fan of Sproul and the potential he possesses. Those comparing him to the likes of MA Bergeron have no idea what type of player he is. He's definitely a very underrated prospect.
Thanks for the analysis. Since I don't have an opportunity to watch him I wasn't too sure about his defensive game, so it's nice to hear he's at least decent defensively. I think the Wings will let him take his time in Grand Rapids as he develops his defensive game, unless his offense alone earns him a roster spot. Hopefully i'll get to see him in the AHL playoffs. Who would you compare Sproul to?

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5 point night. 2 goals, 3 primary assists. Helluva game.

Defensive scoring leader is Ceci with 47 points in 52 games.

Sproul is second with 46 points in 33 games.


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5 point night. 2 goals, 3 primary assists. Helluva game.

Defensive scoring leader is Ceci with 47 points in 52 games.

Sproul is second with 46 points in 33 games.
1.39 ppg and other than him and Hamilton(who's at 1.28) the only other guy who's even at 1 is Matt Petgrave who is at 1 ppg exactly

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5 point night. 2 goals, 3 primary assists. Helluva game.

Defensive scoring leader is Ceci with 47 points in 52 games.

Sproul is second with 46 points in 33 games.
His points per game is tops in the entire CHL for defenseman. And by a pretty large margin.

And to answer the above question about a comparison. I don't have one. Not a fan of them in most cases.

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His points per game is tops in the entire CHL for defenseman. And by a pretty large margin.

And to answer the above question about a comparison. I don't have one. Not a fan of them in most cases.
I heard somewhere that his favorite player is Mike Green from the Capitals. Judging by the goal scoring I'd say that he plays somewhat like him, but don't quote me on it.

Is there a chance he could win CHL defenseman of the year? Fellow Wings prospect Xavier Ouellet from the QMJHL is also in the running and I'm sure there are a few other great candidates. It would be cool for the Wings if Sproul and Ouellet both win there respective league's defenseman of the year award.

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