Well, both Aalborg and Sønderjyske's got similar, even slightly bigger arenas (capacity of 5.000 spectators, Herning's only got a capacity of 4.100) and there's hockey interest in Sønderjylland as well... I think DenGC was thinking of something even bigger than that, probably of an 10.000+ spectator arena... I highly doubt ice hockey could fill that much in Denmark.
No, they don't. I'm talking about Boxen. We already have an arena with capacity for 12.500 spectators.
No, they don't. I'm talking about Boxen. We already have an arena with capacity for 12.500 spectators.
Oh, you were talking about Boxen. Yeah, forgot about that one, but is it suitable for ice hockey? I know it is for basketball and handball, so the size of the rink shouldn't be a problem, but I'm thinking about what it takes to build a hockey rink and keep it cool and icy. At least they're only playing in the smaller KVIK Hockey arena so far and have a hard time filling it.
Would be awesome but it wont happen until a decent arena is build. However, Copenhagen is building a multi-arena which should be finished in the 2nd part of 2015. So I guess 2016 is the most likely.... If someone is willing to spend cash on a team.
The Copenhagen Multi-Arena will have a capacity of 12.500 people, but it will only be used for specific championships.
I will probably not be housing any specific team, but will be open to hire for any kind of artistic or sport event.
With a sudden change of massive hockey interest in Copenhagen (if we qualify for the Sochi olympics and house a succesfull WC in 2017), then at least you would have an arena if any rich guy or organization would sponsor a team....what league that team would play in depends on the wishes of whoever brings the money.
I would be more positive about the SEL going Nordic and including one or two teams from Denmark and Norway Just makes more sense to me...
Would rank it:
1. Danish team in Nordic League
2. Danish teams in Danish League
3. Danish team in KHL. Not very keen on that idea. (Btw. DenGC - Did you put a lot of thoughts into that team? If so I would love to hear why you chose some of the players you did. Some of them came a bit out left field for me)
Oh, you were talking about Boxen. Yeah, forgot about that one, but is it suitable for ice hockey? I know it is for basketball and handball, so the size of the rink shouldn't be a problem, but I'm thinking about what it takes to build a hockey rink and keep it cool and icy. At least they're only playing in the smaller KVIK Hockey arena so far and have a hard time filling it.
Very much so, it is already prepared for a rink with pipes in the floor. Basicly they just need to add a cooling device.
The dimensions are also fine for a rink, actually close to perfect. It's a little bit too big for handball, but an ice rink would fit perfectly.
Here's a photo of mine with Boxen in handball mode:
...but as Tobias wrote, a KHL team here is not going to happen. Just as it is also way too big for Herning Blue Fox to play any regular games there.
Only way I see it as a regular home to a hockey team, is if Denmark had two teams in a Nordic League, and this was home to a team for all of "Western Denmark" or something like that. But that's probably unlikely to happen too.
I would be more positive about the SEL going Nordic and including one or two teams from Denmark and Norway Just makes more sense to me...
Would rank it:
1. Danish team in Nordic League
2. Danish teams in Danish League
3. Danish team in KHL. Not very keen on that idea. (Btw. DenGC - Did you put a lot of thoughts into that team? If so I would love to hear why you chose some of the players you did. Some of them came a bit out left field for me)
I agree with you there. I would not think most danish fans would find any eastern KHL teams that interesting. I Nordic league based mostly on SEL (and SM-liiga?) and including for instance a west-Denmark team played from Boxen maybe (Herning) and a east-Denmark team from the Copenhagen Multiarena and also a few Norwegian teams would be preferable from a fan point of view. The danish league could still excist and feed players to the nordic league teams (that currently go to Sweden anyways, so no loss there in reality for danish hockey).
If Copenhagen could support a major team in the danish league to prevent the teams from Jutland dominating totally would also be good for hockey popularity.
Keeping the danish league as a development league is very good for danish hockey, since very young players get the chance to play against adults.
Very much so, it is already prepared for a rink with pipes in the floor. Basicly they just need to add a cooling device.
The dimensions are also fine for a rink, actually close to perfect. It's a little bit too big for handball, but an ice rink would fit perfectly.
Here's a photo of mine with Boxen in handball mode:
...but as Tobias wrote, a KHL team here is not going to happen. Just as it is also way too big for Herning Blue Fox to play any regular games there.
Only way I see it as a regular home to a hockey team, is if Denmark had two teams in a Nordic League, and this was home to a team for all of "Western Denmark" or something like that. But that's probably unlikely to happen too.
In this case, I'd love to see a match being played there, but it would take a really big name to come play in order to fill that place, someone who might actually draw people from northern Germany or Sweden as well... unfortunately.
The danish league could still excist and feed players to the nordic league teams (that currently go to Sweden anyways, so no loss there in reality for danish hockey).
If Copenhagen could support a major team in the danish league to prevent the teams from Jutland dominating totally would also be good for hockey popularity.
Keeping the danish league as a development league is very good for danish hockey, since very young players get the chance to play against adults.
Very good point. I'm still not decided on whether I'd prefer the Danish team(s) to be able to get relegated and replaced with another Danish team or if a specific "Nordic League"-team should be made. I'm leaning towards the first right now...
Pros:
A) I think the swedes would like their Allsvenskan-teams to be able to win a spot in the SEL. And if Swedish teams can go out - so should Norwegian and Danish. Anything else is silly.
B) You'd be able to build on a already existing fan-culture, front office organisation and sponsor-connections. You'd just be taking next years champion.
C) I fear for the development of the reserves of a "Nordic League"-team. The NT will not benefit from having those right outside the team put on the bench for a whole season.
Cons:
A) The quality of the team might not be as good as a new "All-Star" team would. As relegation is at stake some players might take their chances in their current clubs.
B) I'd would after a couple of years make the Danish league boring since the strong team would get stronger while the smaller teams would get weaker.
C) The teams relegated would have dramatic changes in competition.
D) It's a silly system really. During the season the leading teams in Denmark, Norway and Allsvenskan wound't know if they are fighting for a spot in the SEL or "just" the honor.
Perhaps some sort of play-off system between the best Danish and Norwegian team and the two best Allsvenskan teams could be made... I'm just thinking out loud here
Very good point. I'm still not decided on whether I'd prefer the Danish team(s) to be able to get relegated and replaced with another Danish team or if a specific "Nordic League"-team should be made. I'm leaning towards the first right now...
Pros:
A) I think the swedes would like their Allsvenskan-teams to be able to win a spot in the SEL. And if Swedish teams can go out - so should Norwegian and Danish. Anything else is silly.
B) You'd be able to build on a already existing fan-culture, front office organisation and sponsor-connections. You'd just be taking next years champion.
C) I fear for the development of the reserves of a "Nordic League"-team. The NT will not benefit from having those right outside the team put on the bench for a whole season.
Cons:
A) The quality of the team might not be as good as a new "All-Star" team would. As relegation is at stake some players might take their chances in their current clubs.
B) I'd would after a couple of years make the Danish league boring since the strong team would get stronger while the smaller teams would get weaker.
C) The teams relegated would have dramatic changes in competition.
D) It's a silly system really. During the season the leading teams in Denmark, Norway and Allsvenskan wound't know if they are fighting for a spot in the SEL or "just" the honor.
Perhaps some sort of play-off system between the best Danish and Norwegian team and the two best Allsvenskan teams could be made... I'm just thinking out loud here
I think that the best danish teams are around low-level allsvenskan. If you stacked the best danish non-NHL players in one danish superteam it could be good enough for elitserien, but might also be an elevator team between allsvenskan and elitserien. So I agree for a nordic league it should only be fair that the danish and norwegian teams should battle with the allsvenskan teams for promotion.
About the danish league getting boring I don't think so necessarily, since the many of the best danish Al-bank players already flood the allsvenskan (9 players there, and then 2 in Røgle that most likely will be relegated from elitserien after this season). You could think include Morten Madsen from Modo and the 4 players from the german league and maybe Nichlas Hardt and Simon Nielsen from SM-liiga and you have 18 players without having drained any danish team.
If we are just talking one danish Copenhagen team playing for SEL or allsvenskan I don't think it would affect the danish league that much. Two teams certainly will.
About the danish league getting boring I don't think so necessarily, since the many of the best danish Al-bank players already flood the allsvenskan (9 players there, and then 2 in Røgle that most likely will be relegated from elitserien after this season). You could think include Morten Madsen from Modo and the 4 players from the german league and maybe Nichlas Hardt and Simon Nielsen from SM-liiga and you have 18 players without having drained any danish team.
If we are just talking one danish Copenhagen team playing for SEL or allsvenskan I don't think it would affect the danish league that much. Two teams certainly will.
I was thinking more along the lines of the case where teams can get move between the SEL/Nordic League and the Danish League. The quality would be gathered around the teams with a chance to play SEL/Nordic League and it would be even more obvious for the good players in bad teams where to go to move their career along. Herlev, Copenhagen Hockey, Esbjerg and perhaps even Rodovre would have a harder time keeping their big names if they get an offer to play SEL on a Danish team.
Today the league is quite fluid with teams going up and down the ranking from year to year. That might get lost in the process. Might be worth it.
I have before been discussing the importance of an olympic qualification success and here is some economic proof of it.
According to the chairman of Team Denmark - Michael Andersen:
If Denmark qualifies for Sochi the Danish Hockey Union will receive 6,2 million kroner (1.13 million dollars) in 2013, and its likely more will follow.
Source: http://www.sporten.dk/ishockey/flere...-ved-ol-succes
Hi everyone, this is a little off topic, but I am currently visiting my girlfriend in Copenhagen and want to check out a shop that sells hockey equipment, mostly just to have a look but I'd be interesting in picking up something that you can't really find in America. As pointed out in this thread hockey doesn't seem to be so popular in the city and I haven't been able to find any hockey gear around here, can anyone please recommend some spots? It would be much appreciated
Hi everyone, this is a little off topic, but I am currently visiting my girlfriend in Copenhagen and want to check out a shop that sells hockey equipment, mostly just to have a look but I'd be interesting in picking up something that you can't really find in America. As pointed out in this thread hockey doesn't seem to be so popular in the city and I haven't been able to find any hockey gear around here, can anyone please recommend some spots? It would be much appreciated
I think your biggest chance of finding something special, is to go to one of the clubs homegrounds. They all have fan-shops inside the arena's.
Rødovre has a good one for instance.
Also the sportshops, like sportsmaster, generally sell hockeyequipment when they are located in hockey cities. So you would find some in Herlev, Rødovre, Hvidovre and so forth.
But, the cheapest and most effective way is this online shop.
Just makes more sense to me... 
