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02-02-2013, 12:42 AM
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Doan is straight up jacked.

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02-02-2013, 03:35 AM
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Chara is a terrible fighter.


My answer for the past is Lindros. Present, Kessel.
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02-02-2013, 08:26 AM
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Superstar is to me someone who has multiple over 100-point seasons or has won either Hart Trophy, Art Ross or Norris more than once.

That being said, it is just depressing to compare Gordie Howe who had 1685 PIM in his NHL career to current active players who meet the above criteria (Ovetchkin, Malkin and Crosby).

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02-02-2013, 10:06 AM
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Iginla,Benn and Doan are superstars?

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02-02-2013, 10:48 AM
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Superstar lol what a stupid word.

Iginla is the best combo of skill and punching ability out there.

Chara is a freak of nature in general.

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02-02-2013, 12:44 PM
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Are we talking all time? Because if so, Gordie Howe single-handed destroyed Lou Fontinato's reputation as the heavyweight champion of the NHL. Destroyed his face too.


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02-02-2013, 05:53 PM
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Iginla,Benn and Doan are superstars?
Read the first sentence of my post?

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02-08-2013, 03:43 PM
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With the few times I've seen him fight, I think Kovalchuk throws them well for an elite player.

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02-08-2013, 08:18 PM
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04-26-2013, 04:27 PM
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Scott Stevens was sort of like Bobby Hull. Not the greatest technique as a fighter, but so strong they would knock the other player over. Tim Horton was a similar type. Crazy strong, and won his fights by wrestling. When I was growing up (60's) nobody touched Howe when he was on the ice. I thought it was because he was an aging superstar and it was out of respect. Sorta like how Beliveau was treated. It wasn't till years later that I realized that nobody wanted to tangle with him, even when he was in his mid-late 30's (which was ancient for a hockey player back then).

Neely was very tough. I think you'd have to call him at least a star, maybe a poor man's superstar. Al Secord was another excellent player who was a first class scrapper. Both these guys produced far more than a Lucic type. Unfortunately both these players had excellent careers cut short due to serious injury.

Orr was tough, but The Bruins (sensibly) tried to keep him from scrapping. Why have the best player in the world sit in the penalty box when it could be Wayne Cashman or Ted Greene?

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04-26-2013, 04:57 PM
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Howe, Orr, Messier, Shanahan, Lindros, Iggy.

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04-26-2013, 05:12 PM
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Al Secord was a first class wrestler. one of the biggest in hockey history.

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04-26-2013, 07:31 PM
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Jamie Benn, ****ing STUD! god i wish he was on the Leafs. Iggy is a beast too and probably the best superstar fighter currently but Jamie Benn is the toughest young star in the league



like the announcer says, old bull and young bull
"This is a five-knuckle meat soother"

Epic line.

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04-26-2013, 09:58 PM
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guys like Neely, Shanahan, Lindros were all stars who could toss.

Currently id consider guys like Iggy, Chara and even Bertuzzi ass productive players that can toss.. Real superstars like Crosby (ever tho he can throw), Ovy ect dont really need to fight and arnt built for it

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04-26-2013, 11:35 PM
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Chara. I will never forget what he did to McCabe

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04-27-2013, 01:33 AM
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I don't think 62 points as a career high qualifies you as a superstar. Not for a forward, anyway. Star? sure. Superstar? no way.
The guy is 23, and has over 62 points during the last 2 full seasons. You have to consider him a budding superstar. Also, he would beat the piss out of Iginla, and I hope he gets the chance during the playoffs.

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04-27-2013, 06:39 AM
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The guy is 23, and has over 62 points during the last 2 full seasons. You have to consider him a budding superstar. Also, he would beat the piss out of Iginla, and I hope he gets the chance during the playoffs.
Keep dreaming, bud. I doubt that Lucic would "beat the piss out of Iginla", if they ever fought.

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04-27-2013, 08:22 AM
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Both Beliveau, in the fifties, and Mikita (a little small, but very scrappy prior to winning the Byng trophy's) in the sixties, each won the Art Ross and Hart the same year as being top 3 in the league in penalty minutes. Doug Harvey did the same the year he won one of his many Norris trophies.

Eddie Shore, Rocket Richard and Bobby Orr fought a lot, and well, also.



Larry Robinson and Bobby Hull, neither fought a lot but could certainly handle themselves when they did.

Howe of course wins this, at least for his day. (HM Lindros and Chara) Lou Fontinato was thought to be the toughest guy in the league until Howe put his broken face on the cover of Life Magazine. Not many challenged Gordie after that.


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04-27-2013, 09:59 AM
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Yes. He's one of the most popular players in the league; he's had had a top 10 jersey seller for several years now. Voted by his peers as the toughest player in the league and the second toughest forward to play against. Leads a Stanley Cup winning and contending team in goals the past two seasons. Best power forward in the league. Big guys who can fit and score get compared to Lucic in their draft years. He epitomizes the Bruins, a blue collared franchise that glorifies player's toughness and ability. The kid is a superstar.
OP is obviously talking about superstar TALENT, and Lucic isn't even close to qualify for that list.

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04-27-2013, 10:04 AM
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Maurice Richard by a lot he was a very good amature boxer where he trained as much for boxing as hockey
lol! I'd certainly like to see Richard beat up Howe man. Certainly feisty but LOL man.

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04-27-2013, 01:53 PM
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Well it seems like we can't agree on how to define a "superstar," but I'm going to use my personal definition of the term so I can partake in this intellectual thought experiment.

Answer: Kovalchuk

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05-02-2013, 08:18 AM
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Can't believe how little love Joe Thornton gets. I don't know if I'd qualify him as 'superstar' level anymore. But he is a PPG center and could crush most of the afformentioned guys in a fight; except probably Chara & Lucic, who I don't consider superstar level either.

But if Kovalchuk & Iginla are in the conversation as 'superstars', then I'd take Thornton over both of them, on ice and in a fight!

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05-02-2013, 09:47 AM
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Crosby (ever tho he can throw),
i'll just hopefully assume this was a facetious statement.

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05-02-2013, 10:38 AM
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Mike Richards, not really a superstar, but he can throw.

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05-02-2013, 11:50 AM
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Chara is a terrible fighter.
It's becoming increasingly obvious that the only answer you'll accept for this thread is Iginla. Who cares who the better technical fighter is if he'd get mauled by Chara?

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