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02-02-2013, 12:38 PM
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Well said.
this is a total overreaction of the part of the OP. Guys get hurt all the time....teams dont always play with all their best players.

Dude...relax.
Kovi with words of wisdom and truth.

The overreaction to the Sabres game is exactly what they hoped to achieve. There is no reason to engage in an unnecessary fight just to prove a point. The way you "get revenge" for Thornton is to win and win convincingly.

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02-02-2013, 12:49 PM
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Got that right. Man what a game that was thursday, eh boys?
Yeah, for you...

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One lost fight and now it's the apocalypse . Most of you know better than this.

You know what I see? The collective quality of his place going right down the sewer. Again, the majority know better and are better than this.

And to the OP. - 'we' hopefully doesn't refer to any group that you consider both you and I belong to together. That would be preposterous.

I've never considered coming out of retirement. But this type of lunacy may eventually force my hand. I feel like Rooster Cogburn for Cripes sakes.

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One lost fight and now it's the apocalypse . Most of you know better than this.

You know what I see? The collective quality of his place going right down the sewer. Again, the majority know better and are better than this.

And to the OP. - 'we' hopefully doesn't refer to any group that you consider both you and I belong to together. That would be preposterous.

I've never considered coming out of retirement. But this type of lunacy may eventually force my hand. I feel like Rooster Cogburn for Cripes sakes.
Why is this lunacy? I thought this was a well-timed topic about the teams current situation as far as loss of leadership and toughness.

There is an ignore feature you can use rather than being disrespectful. Seriously, what did I do wrong?

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02-02-2013, 01:28 PM
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I don't know how to respond. I actually think this is a good thread (unlike most responses lol.)

Part of me wants us to move on from having stage fighters on the team, bump Paille to the 3rd line, and give GC 2 wingers who don't fight at all and try and build ourselves a new 4th line that can score some. I guess Caron would be on it when heathy and then maybe a speed guy like Bourque or maybe Tardif.

And the other part of me wants us to sign bums like Macintyre Haley and Gillies because I think there is a target on our back and other teams will be trying to cheapshot us and want to prove to themselves and others that they are as tough or tougher than the Big Bad Bruins who had been the toughest team in the league last couple years. If we are going to ahve other teams testing us a 4th line of Thornton-Campbell-Macintyre would put a stop to a lot of that stuff.

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02-02-2013, 01:33 PM
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I don't know how to respond. I actually think this is a good thread (unlike most responses lol.)
Thank you. There seems to be a couple people here influencing everyone else. I seriously don't understand being disrespectful of someone trying to join in and dscuss the Bs. Maybe internet toughness?

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02-02-2013, 01:33 PM
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what did the sabres do, really?
besides a tired Bruins defense and alot of bruins mistakes, the only thing different from any other game against them was some giant bundled thornton.

scott is a monster and there is no way around that, but pretty much every other player will know what to do the next game we face them. this is not an issue.
Totally agree, Bruins were flyiing and in perfect control of that game before the extended 5 on 3. Buffalo didn't do anything more than winning a fight. Nobody in the league is saying Bruins are soft because Scott won a fight. B's had alot of jump and were in control of the puck all night. Buffalo won cause Miller was incredible (even letting up 4 goals, that's how good the Bruins were) and cause defense give up bad breaks to wrong people (Vanek). That's all.

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Why is this lunacy? I thought this was a well-timed topic about the teams current situation as far as loss of leadership and toughness.

There is an ignore feature you can use rather than being disrespectful. Seriously, what did I do wrong?
You think that after the result of ONE regular season loss, the Bruins have lost their leadership and toughness?

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Why is this lunacy? I thought this was a well-timed topic about the teams current situation as far as loss of leadership and toughness.

There is an ignore feature you can use rather than being disrespectful. Seriously, what did I do wrong?
That sentence has everything to do with people reaction. You're living in fantasy land, it's your choice, but don't expect everbody to follow.

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Come the playoffs this plug Scott will be an absolute waste - the Sabres are only fooling themselves and their fans.
This is true.

Playoff hockey isn't regular season hockey and these guys will be dead weight for their teams getting splinters in their butts.

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Why is this lunacy? I thought this was a well-timed topic about the teams current situation as far as loss of leadership and toughness.

There is an ignore feature you can use rather than being disrespectful. Seriously, what did I do wrong?
You know exactly what you are doing, if i was a mod...i would of stop you the moment you started the first thread.

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It was one fight between two designated scrapers, that's all it was. The Bruins have not lost every ounce of team toughness. The Bruins lost that game because Vanek went off and the Bruins defense collapsed in the second half of the game. Miller was also very good. I don't for a second believe the Bruins collapsed because Thornton lost a fight early in the first. Correlation does not imply causation. They had an off night, a really off night from Chara especially. It happens! Now Thornton is a loss but I'd rather replace him in the short term than any other regular except for Bourque.

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You think that after the result of ONE regular season loss, the Bruins have lost their leadership and toughness?
Media morons have questioned Big Z's leadership since this loss more than they have since 2009, 2010. (Anyone remember Chara's record in game 7's prior to 2011?)


As for toughness if a goon on another team cheapshots our player we either have to respond with Lucic/Chara rewarding that team with a first liner for 4th liner trade off. Or watch Ference, McQuaid, Campbell get destroyed by someone.

What do we have, 40 games remaining? I think in 36, 37 of them this stuff is irrelevant. But there are going to be 2-3 games where teams will play the Bruins intent on gooning it up.

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It was one fight between two designated scrapers, that's all it was. The Bruins have not lost every ounce of team toughness. The Bruins lost that game because Vanek went off and the Bruins defense collapsed in the second half of the game. Miller was also very good. I don't for a second believe the Bruins collapsed because Thornton lost a fight early in the first. Correlation does not imply causation. They had an off night, a really off night from Chara especially. It happens! Now Thornton is a loss but I'd rather replace him in the short term than any other regular except for Bourque.
So they haven't lost anything by replacing Thornton with MacDermid ? They are still just as tough?

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Why is this lunacy? I thought this was a well-timed topic about the teams current situation as far as loss of leadership and toughness.

There is an ignore feature you can use rather than being disrespectful. Seriously, what did I do wrong?
You are one of several posters who are seriously overreacting to one lost fight and a lost game, and drawing extreme conclusions from both.

Thornton is going to lose a fight now and then; that is inevitable. It stinks that he got hurt but that is unfortunately part of the game. He is certainly a valued part of the Bruins but they can survive without him.

The Bruins did not lose because Thornton's loss drained them of their manhood. They lost because they were running around chasing their tails in the defensive zone. In Julien's words, they were braindead, and playing their third game in four days probably had something to do with it.

To postulate that this team - probably, player for player the toughest in the NHL - is suddenly going to be targeted and to call for a trade for a "tough guy" is a silly overreaction, and all it does is validate Sabres fans' delusions.

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Why is this lunacy? I thought this was a well-timed topic about the teams current situation as far as loss of leadership and toughness.

There is an ignore feature you can use rather than being disrespectful. Seriously, what did I do wrong?
You questioned the almighty Bruins...that doesn't go over well round these parts, and your wording was over the top.. The Bruins do indeed lose SOME toughness and SOME leadership. If people don't agree with that, then they really don't think much of Shawn Thornton. Can they recover from it? Of course.

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You are one of several posters who are seriously overreacting to one lost fight and a lost game, and drawing extreme conclusions from both.

Thornton is going to lose a fight now and then; that is inevitable. It stinks that he got hurt but that is unfortunately part of the game. He is certainly a valued part of the Bruins but they can survive without him.

The Bruins did not lose because Thornton's loss drained them of their manhood. They lost because they were running around chasing their tails in the defensive zone. In Julien's words, they were braindead, and playing their third game in four days probably had something to do with it.

To postulate that this team - probably, player for player the toughest in the NHL - is suddenly going to be targeted and to call for a trade for a "tough guy" is a silly overreaction, and all it does is validate Sabres fans' delusions.
Hmmm, I wonder why exactly the best defense in the NHL was brain dead that night?

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So they haven't lost anything by replacing Thornton with MacDermid ? They are still just as tough?
I said they didn't lose "every ounce of team toughness" as in it's not all gone, they're still a tough team but yes they definitely did lose some toughness.

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I said they didn't lose "every ounce of team toughness" as in it's not all gone, they're still a tough team but yes they definitely did lose some toughness.
Oh OK sorry about that... Agreed.

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Media morons have questioned Big Z's leadership since this loss more than they have since 2009, 2010. (Anyone remember Chara's record in game 7's prior to 2011?)
Well, the old saying, if you can't play, then talk about playing. Media have jobs because they make talking points happen.

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As for toughness if a goon on another team cheapshots our player we either have to respond with Lucic/Chara rewarding that team with a first liner for 4th liner trade off. Or watch Ference, McQuaid, Campbell get destroyed by someone.
Toughness is more than just participating in a staged fight. To me, toughness is going into the corners and scrapping for possession, muscling yourself in front of the crease for positioning, finishing checks...and that's just the physicial piece of it. Toughness is also adapting to a strategy in-game, fighting when you're a man down to obtain a great short-handed chance the other way.

Did losing that ONE fight take away all those other things?

I am simply baffled at how some people think we need to completely change a system that has worked well and that is generally respected league wide after the result of one regular season loss.

One game does not a disturbing trend make.

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You questioned the almighty Bruins...that doesn't go over well round these parts, and your wording was over the top.. The Bruins do indeed lose SOME toughness and SOME leadership. If people don't agree with that, then they really don't think much of Shawn Thornton. Can they recover from it? Of course.
It's not about questioning the Bruins... it's about overreacting... you know?
Like demanding to fire the FO and asking for apologies after game 7 to the Flyers.

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It's not about questioning the Bruins... it's about overreacting... you know?
Like demanding to fire the FO and asking for apologies after game 7 to the Flyers.
They apologized alright, in 2011!

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3 division rivals. This week. They need to send a message or the toughness and intimidation factor is GONE.
Know what's more important than sending a message? Taking 6 points out of those three games. And I'm leery that spending too much time/attention/energy on sending messages might prevent them from taking the more important points.

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Why is this lunacy? I thought this was a well-timed topic about the teams current situation as far as loss of leadership and toughness.

There is an ignore feature you can use rather than being disrespectful. Seriously, what did I do wrong?
I think it's because you tend to be somewhat hyperbolic in your wording. This thread has "very vulnerable" (even though the B's are facing two relatively weak teams, both depth-wise & toughness-wise, in TML & MTL next), the Mowers/Bourque thread had "disturbing trend" (even though it'd only been two games) ... perhaps if you'd worded things less dramatically, people would be less quick to mock your threads.

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They apologized alright, in 2011!
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Know what's more important than sending a message? Taking 6 points out of those three games. And I'm leery that spending too much time/attention/energy on sending messages might prevent them from taking the more important points.



I think it's because you tend to be somewhat hyperbolic in your wording. This thread has "very vulnerable" (even though the B's are facing two relatively weak teams, both depth-wise & toughness-wise, in TML & MTL next), the Mowers/Bourque thread had "disturbing trend" (even though it'd only been two games) ... perhaps if you'd worded things less dramatically, people would be less quick to mock your threads.
He obviously is doing it to stir poo.

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