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LW Magnus Pääjärvi-Svensson (2009, 10th overall, Edmonton, traded to St. Louis) II

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03-21-2012, 08:15 PM
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40 - 50 point 2nd liner

Just not alot of hockey sense
I don't think that hockey sense is his problem and I also don't see how he's a 40 point player. He scored 34 points in his rookie year and has much more time to improve. He has had great success during international play and has all the tools to become a pretty good player. Tom Renney has put him in a position to fail with the Oilers and that's really the biggest reason, along with low confidence as to why he's struggled so much in his sophomore year.

Hoping that next year Renney won't be back and Paajarvi has a great finish to the season in OKC along with a productive off-season and comes back flying.

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03-21-2012, 08:36 PM
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we just don't know what we have with the guy yet. hoping for an eventual 1st or 2nd liner, but if he ends up as a 3rd liner, it'll be a real drag because of the fact he was a 10th overall pick.

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40 - 50 point 2nd liner

Just not alot of hockey sense
uhhhhhhhhhhhh this maybe the thing he needs to work on the least.


he lacks physicality and a high end shot.



i still believe he will be a good/very good 2LW, around 50 points per year, great defensively (already one of our best wingers at this)



so what if he has to spend a year in the AHL (and is putting up a PPG).

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Paajarvi's game is fine. He just needs to add some upper body strength to make his rushes to the net a little more dangerous without sacrificing a lot of speed.

His value isn't measured in goals and assists, sure the Oilers would like numbers but his value will lie more in what he and his line are giving up.

Paajarvi and Lander should be joined at the hip from here on out and they should be working off of each other to allow them to thrive together. Paajarvi should be the burner off the wing while Lander should be the player that find soft spots in the middle of the ice.

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03-21-2012, 09:52 PM
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Come in with speed , and take a weak wristshot at the goalie of the rush .

Rinse and repeat .

Low hockey sense

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03-21-2012, 10:14 PM
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Come in with speed , and take a weak wristshot at the goalie of the rush .

Rinse and repeat .

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That is sure what he looked like for the beginning of the year but showed some improvement during his last call up. I think the biggest thing as well that he needs to work on is his confidence, he needs to realize that when he drives to the net with the speed and size he has he can be a very dangerous player

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03-22-2012, 01:00 AM
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If he could work on his hands he could be a very dangerous player. He's got the speed and size, but he doesn't have the hands or passin ability to keep up at this point. I think he's going to be a good player in some capacity regardless.

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03-22-2012, 01:12 AM
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Just for the record, there aren't a hell of a lot of 60 point second liners in this league. Just saying.

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03-22-2012, 01:30 AM
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He reminds me of Mason Raymond with a worse shot, or a less physical Stalberg. 2nd/3rd line tweener.

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Hope people are writing this kid off... Only 20 years old. haha.

Dvorak 2.0 is his floor. It's up to him to be better than that. I think he can.

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David Booth is his exact comparison and I think he will achieve it eventually. We've been spoiled by the young guns' development and Oilers fans are forgetting some prospects take a little time. Pacioretty had a bad sophomore season too and he's bounced back in what is his 4th pro year now. Sometimes it takes a bit.

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03-22-2012, 02:26 AM
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He reminds me of Mason Raymond with a worse shot, or a less physical Stalberg. 2nd/3rd line tweener.
Yea, from watching both the Canucks and the Oilers a lot, I think of MPS as Raymond with a worse wrister, better slapper, and a little less drive to the net. Hopefully he can work on said tentativeness to drive to the net (He's the anti-Hall). If he can utilize that speed he has to blast past the defense on the outside he can make it as a second liner in this league. Currently, Hartikainen is making a case to be the second line LW on the team. We could end up seeing an all-swedish third line, which means the Oilers REALLY need to have some of their ample young defense prospects pan out.

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03-22-2012, 02:51 AM
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He's going to be fine. He's too talented and seems to have a good work ethic. At worse he'll be a 3rd liner with size and speed that can PK. Not exactly a bust at the number 10 spot.

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He reminds me of Mason Raymond with a worse shot, or a less physical Stalberg. 2nd/3rd line tweener.
Id honestly rather have Magnus over Raymond and Stalberg.

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He's just not a natural goal scorer, I always viewed him similar to Jakub Vorocek, good player, who should be able to pass the puck and play 2 ways.

If he really really pans out, and accepts his role, he could mold himself into a Jere Lehtinen type of forward

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Top-end upside: Hossa

Realistic upside: Dvorak


I think he and Lander could have a similar impact to '05/'06 Peca and Dvorak for us.

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Top-end upside: Hossa

Realistic upside: Dvorak


I think he and Lander could have a similar impact to '05/'06 Peca and Dvorak for us.
If Lander's upside is Peca, I'll be pretty happy. It's going to be interesting seeing Lander and Pajaarvi develop together, I think there's 2nd line upside for both players but it might take them until their mid-twenties to realize that. It would be special to see them reach that potential together considering their friendship.

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03-22-2012, 08:12 AM
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If he's playing behind Hall and is on the 2nd line it will be very, very unlikely he'll get 60 pts.

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03-22-2012, 08:47 AM
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I still think his upside is the same. He hit a rut, it happens, but he's on his way back. The right choice was made with sending him to the minors. He's only 20, plenty of time to start over in the development process. 19p in 24 AHL games is not too bad.

If Edmonton ever trades for defense I bet he'll be going the other way.

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What do people think his current value is? A Bruins poster suggested they make a trade with Edmonton for him, what would Edmonton look for in return?

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What do people think his current value is? A Bruins poster suggested they make a trade with Edmonton for him, what would Edmonton look for in return?
He is definitely an NHL talent but is buried BIG TIME in Edmonton. So much so that he was recently demoted to the AHL in favour of Anton Lander.

He's worth more to Edmonton than anyone else is going to pay for him, he's honestly not a very good trade target.

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I would have never though Hartikainen was a better prospect than Pääjärvi but its true now, quite funny

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He is definitely an NHL talent but is buried BIG TIME in Edmonton. So much so that he was recently demoted to the AHL in favour of Anton Lander.

He's worth more to Edmonton than anyone else is going to pay for him, he's honestly not a very good trade target.
The reason for this is that Horcoff was injured. Lander is a center while Paajarvi is a LW. Paajarvi was the only player on the Oilers roster who wouldn't have to go through waivers which was the reason for him being sent to OKC. He would still be with the Oilers right now if it wasn't for Horcoff's injury.

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He has 15 goals in his last 132 games, NHL/AHL (mostly AHL), Regular season/Playoffs. 15 goals.. 0.11 goals-per-game.

Do people still believe he can be a quality top-6 forward?

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