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02-03-2013, 10:22 AM
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Let's blow it up.. seriously..

Where are we going with Kessel and Phaneuf as our leaders? I mean really.. This team won't be a cup contender for several more years anyways. I'm not trying to hate but I can really see the team ever wining anything with this core of players. Let's trade anything that can garner a 2013 1st or 2nd rounder and let's rebuild the right way.

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02-03-2013, 10:24 AM
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We really need a child safety lock on who can start threads. I mean seriously, this is getting ridiculous around here...

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Where are we going with Kessel and Phaneuf as our leaders? I mean really.. This team won't be a cup contender for several more years anyways. I'm not trying to hate but I can really see the team ever wining anything with this core of players. Let's trade anything that can garner a 2013 1st or 2nd rounder and let's rebuild the right way.
Team loses: "blow it up"

Yep; you've definitely got the patience for a rebuild.

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02-03-2013, 10:26 AM
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Team loses: "blow it up"

Yep; you've definitely got the patience for a rebuild.
Not exactly. I've been thinking about it for a while ever, Ever since our historic collapse last season.. What we're doing is not working obviously.

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02-03-2013, 10:28 AM
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A big part of me wants the Edmonton Oilers to never win with this core, just to show people that pathetically tanking and losing for years does not guarantee success.

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A big part of me wants the Edmonton Oilers to never win with this core, just to show people that pathetically tanking and losing for years does not guarantee success.
Also their fanbase rubs me the wrong way. Love Eberle though.

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02-03-2013, 10:31 AM
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A big part of me wants the Edmonton Oilers to never win with this core, just to show people that pathetically tanking and losing for years does not guarantee success.
I'm well aware Top picks doesn't guarantee success in even a cup. I mean look at CBJ and NYI, But there isn't a whole lot of light at the end of the tunnel right now... Plus i'm afraid Kessel might walk after next season.

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02-03-2013, 10:33 AM
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I agree for the most part, but we shouldn't be trading players just because there value is that of a 1st/2nd round pick, that's being trigger happy.

Believe it or not, we actually have some good role players... Players that should absolutely not be traded...

Lupul (I believe he's a 60-70 point winger and has a great attitude for the locker room, good player to have around the younger guys)

Kulemin (Goes and and gives it all each shift, is young and the ideal 2nd/3rd liner)

Kadri

Frattin

Komarov

McClement

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Gardiner

Franson

Gunnarson

Holzer

Komisarek

Reimer

Now I'm on the fence with Kessel, I know what he's capable of and he's still young, but is he here for the long run?

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02-03-2013, 10:45 AM
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I don't think Macarthur really fits in with our team, I hope he is traded this year at the deadline. He's an okay player, but we need to get more size along with skill upfront. If we could get a late first for him I would be ecstatic, but a 2nd + a prospect would be okay too.
Gaustad got a 1st, Vesteeg got a 1st and a 3rd, I believe that we can atleast get a first and maybe a 2nd round pick with it.

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02-03-2013, 10:50 AM
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I agree for the most part, but we shouldn't be trading players just because there value is that of a 1st/2nd round pick, that's being trigger happy.

Believe it or not, we actually have some good role players... Players that should absolutely not be traded...

Lupul (I believe he's a 60-70 point winger and has a great attitude for the locker room, good player to have around the younger guys)

Kulemin (Goes and and gives it all each shift, is young and the ideal 2nd/3rd liner)

Kadri

Frattin

Komarov

McClement

Orr

Gardiner

Franson

Gunnarson

Holzer

Komisarek

Reimer

Now I'm on the fence with Kessel, I know what he's capable of and he's still young, but is he here for the long run?
I think you kinda slipped up, no? You meant to list JVR where you listed Komi, right, right?

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02-03-2013, 10:53 AM
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We really need a child safety lock on who can start threads. I mean seriously, this is getting ridiculous around here...
Agreed. If we win a game or two in a row we get thread after thread about how great the Leafs are, how great an individual player is, how we are definintly improving, and how underappreciated they are, etc... When we lose the team is trash, the team needs to be "Blown up" and the very players who were praised days before are suddenly villians.

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Team loses: "blow it up"

Yep; you've definitely got the patience for a rebuild.
Lol, don't use logic on a thread like this...you might confuse the OP Maybe he does not realize that blowing up the team will not help the Leafs win now?

Blowing up the team will at best merely give the Leafs a cast of young, undeveloped players who may or may not develop as fast or as fully as we hope. Kind of sounds like what we have now, does it not?

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02-03-2013, 11:05 AM
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Lol, don't use logic on a thread like this...you might confuse the OP Maybe he does not realize that blowing up the team will not help the Leafs win now?

Blowing up the team will at best merely give the Leafs a cast of young, undeveloped players who may or may not develop as fast or as fully as we hope. Kind of sounds like what we have now, does it not?
Yeah cause Frattin,Kadri, etc are future 1st line talents

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02-03-2013, 11:08 AM
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Yeah cause Frattin,Kadri, etc are future 1st line talents
Haha this is exactly the point.

You claim "blow it up" but can't appreciate the solid play of two youngsters because "they're not good enough!"

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02-03-2013, 11:12 AM
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Haha this is exactly the point.

You claim "blow it up" but can't appreciate the solid play of two youngsters because "they're not good enough!"
There's no getting through to Leafs fans. I guess you guys love mediocrity. Ask yourselves this, Where do you honestly think we're going with Kessel,Phaneuf,Grabo etc, as our best players

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02-03-2013, 11:14 AM
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There's no getting through to Leafs fans. I guess you guys love mediocrity. Ask yourselves this, Where do you honestly think we're going with Kessel,Phaneuf,Grabo etc, as our best players
As opposed to who?

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There's no getting through to Leafs fans. I guess you guys love mediocrity. Ask yourselves this, Where do you honestly think we're going with Kessel,Phaneuf,Grabo etc, as our best players
So what team are you a fan of? And why did you start a stupid useless thread on our board?

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So what team are you a fan of? And why did you start a stupid useless thread on our board?
-_- i'm a Leafs fan. I'm just not as naive as most thinking that this team is actually going anywhere. Our team sucks, Blow it up, destroy the Burke era once and for all.

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02-03-2013, 11:20 AM
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-_- i'm a Leafs fan. I'm just not as naive as most thinking that this team is actually going anywhere. Our team sucks, Blow it up, destroy the Burke era once and for all.
So:

-trade everyone for picks
-draft stars.



I guess your plan is pretty sweet after all.

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As opposed to who?
I really hate when people say this. 29th,21st,26th, Nuff said. It's seems like it would alot better to trade Kessel and Co for 1st+

This group will never amount to much.

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So:

-trade everyone for picks
-draft stars.



I guess your plan is pretty sweet after all.
Better then Boston drafting with our picks

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I really hate when people say this. 29th,21st,26th, Nuff said. It's seems like it would alot better to trade Kessel and Co for 1st+

This group will never amount to much.
Why?

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Why?
What are they doing here? We're not competing. I'd wager good money Kessel will walk after next season too.

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Better then Boston drafting with our picks
But Seguin hasn't put up 90pts yet. You'd have thrown him under the bus by this point.

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But Seguin hasn't put up 90pts yet. You'd have thrown him under the bus by this point.
Yeah totally. Because I was freaking out when Kadri wasn't making the team

Seguin,Hamilton,Knights looks alot better for our future then Kessel

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