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02-02-2013, 01:39 PM
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Imagine the switch of the two coaches.
Would make quite the storyline if both teams turned it around.


If anybody could light a fire under our forwards, it would be Torts. I'd love to see him give it a go with Schenn, Giroux, Voracek, and the crew.

EDIT: And I would absolutely hate to see what the Rags could do under Lavi. That team is very similar in firepower to ours in 2010 and 2011 (and with competent goaltending).

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Terry Murray is the last thing we need. We need someone that has never been a Flyer. "Flyers hockey" is a failure. Need to clean house in management and start fresh with all people from outside the organization.

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Terry Murray is the last thing we need. We need someone that has never been a Flyer. "Flyers hockey" is a failure. Need to clean house in management and start fresh with all people from outside the organization.
It worked for the Red Sox.

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Terry Murray is the last thing we need. We need someone that has never been a Flyer. "Flyers hockey" is a failure. Need to clean house in management and start fresh with all people from outside the organization.
Completely agree to all of the above.

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Terry Murray is the last thing we need. We need someone that has never been a Flyer. "Flyers hockey" is a failure. Need to clean house in management and start fresh with all people from outside the organization.
There are a TON of NHL franchises that would like to have such a " failed " franchise as Flyers hockey ? Just went to the finals a few years back, punked the Pens last year in the playoffs etc......Not saying that some changes are not in order maybe sooner than later, but i disagree that "Flyers hockey" is such a failure as depicted here..

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There are a TON of NHL franchises that would like to have such a " failed " franchise as Flyers hockey ? Just went to the finals a few years back, punked the Pens last year in the playoffs etc......Not saying that some changes are not in order maybe sooner than later, but i disagree that "Flyers hockey" is such a failure as depicted here..
Like I said elsewhere, it's a great philosophy for being a top 10, but not top 3 team. Is that want we ultimately want? It's better than being awful, but we essentially need a miracle run (like the Kings) to be champs.

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Otherwise I would not be comfortable with any of the other options behind the bench.
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Like I said elsewhere, it's a great philosophy for being a top 10, but not top 3 team. Is that want we ultimately want? It's better than being awful, but we essentially need a miracle run (like the Kings) to be champs.
Respectfully i understand your point,But sadly Pro hockey and pro sports is all about entertainment and filling the seats etc.....And the Flyers have done that very well throughout their history....I do have a little different perspective i suppose than most on here because i am 54 and have been a Flyers fan since 1967 and have seen 2 cup victories etc....I understand alot of you lads have a little different perspective with the Flyers being " cupless" during your life time etc and rightfully so i suppose..I have seen the Flyers go on some crazy streaks over the years, and still holding hope that they will all get on the same page as FLYERS .

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GM is a tough gig for sure..........always 2nd guessed !


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If there was a saving grace I think its that there are a number of circumstances which Lavy has no part in that Holmgren and others may look to, rightly or wrongly, as reasons why Lavy stays:

- Shortened Season so no Ex-Games, limited practice (something every team faces however)
- Briere injury to start the year
- Extended injury to Hartnell
- Now the injury to Simmonds
- Loss of scoring depth
- Addition of sub par replacements (Feds, Knuble)

I understand the team is playing poorly, but I can see these as things management will look at when weighing whether or not Lavy needs to go.

Personally, I dont think they'll can him until this season is a complete loss.

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It looks to me like Lavi has gone back to his old system.

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Like I said elsewhere, it's a great philosophy for being a top 10, but not top 3 team. Is that want we ultimately want? It's better than being awful, but we essentially need a miracle run (like the Kings) to be champs.
If any team is playing Flyers hockey right now, it's the Bruins. Who won a cup recently. And Anahiem circa 2007 was pretty Flyers hockey too.

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GM is a tough gig for sure..........always 2nd guessed !
Yeah I wouldn't want to be Homer. The guy can never do anything right in the eyes of some people.

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02-03-2013, 03:37 AM
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Respectfully i understand your point,But sadly Pro hockey and pro sports is all about entertainment and filling the seats etc.....And the Flyers have done that very well throughout their history....I do have a little different perspective i suppose than most on here because i am 54 and have been a Flyers fan since 1967 and have seen 2 cup victories etc....I understand alot of you lads have a little different perspective with the Flyers being " cupless" during your life time etc and rightfully so i suppose..I have seen the Flyers go on some crazy streaks over the years, and still holding hope that they will all get on the same page as FLYERS .
Let's put things into perspective: You were a 16 year old sophomore in high school the last time your team won a Cup. Epic fail.

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If any team is playing Flyers hockey right now, it's the Bruins. Who won a cup recently. And Anahiem circa 2007 was pretty Flyers hockey too.
The Bruins were always the Bruins. The difference was that Tim Thomas had one of the all-time all-time seasons for goaltenders. I don't see Bryz putting up a .938 sv% and then raise it to .940% in the playoffs. No one does. For anyone, ever.

Anaheim had two hall of fame defensemen in their prime in front of an all-star goalie in his prime. Anaheim hasn't changed their identity since 2007, they just don't have the defensemen who could log 28 minutes without breaking a sweat.

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The Bruins were always the Bruins. The difference was that Tim Thomas had one of the all-time all-time seasons for goaltenders. I don't see Bryz putting up a .938 sv% and then raise it to .940% in the playoffs. No one does. For anyone, ever.

Anaheim had two hall of fame defensemen in their prime in front of an all-star goalie in his prime. Anaheim hasn't changed their identity since 2007, they just don't have the defensemen who could log 28 minutes without breaking a sweat.
Wow, I forgot that team had Niedermayer as well as Pronger.

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I like Lavy, but I would think about it. If they have a chance to make the playoffs with a change Im all for it.

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Wow, I forgot that team had Niedermayer as well as Pronger.
And beauchemin was the one who logged the most minutest per game in the playoffs. At nearly 30 min a game.

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Wow, I forgot that team had Niedermayer as well as Pronger.
Kind of funny how their d compares to now from then.

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Let's put things into perspective: You were a 16 year old sophomore in high school the last time your team won a Cup. Epic fail.
Not a fail at all in my view...........It was a great time for Flyers hockey and a great time to be 16. Our club has had many cup runs since those days, just needed a few breaks and a few good bounces here and there.......Believe it or not , there is absolutely an element of luck thrown in the mix of winning a cup......The long " dry spell" will make winning it all the sweeter.

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Am I the only person who still likes Lavy?

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Am I the only person who still likes Lavy?
I'm good with him, but I'm getting frustrated. He's part of the problem. The team constructed by Holmgren is the other part.

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The Bruins were always the Bruins. The difference was that Tim Thomas had one of the all-time all-time seasons for goaltenders. I don't see Bryz putting up a .938 sv% and then raise it to .940% in the playoffs. No one does. For anyone, ever.

Anaheim had two hall of fame defensemen in their prime in front of an all-star goalie in his prime. Anaheim hasn't changed their identity since 2007, they just don't have the defensemen who could log 28 minutes without breaking a sweat.
But what identity was that? Very Flyer-esque. They started playing super physical and using their physicality to beat on the Sens.

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Yes, I still like him as well...

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