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02-02-2013, 02:55 PM
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Hes played good on 3rd line role this season with Harti. I see him having a future in the NHL being a 3rd liner putting up 35ish points and playing solid defensively.

In regard to the Bruins poster: as an Oilers fan I wouldnt want to trade him right now. His value is pretty low and Id like to see the Oilers develop their own prospects. That is unless the deal has Seidenberg in it along with a signifcant + with MPS

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02-02-2013, 02:58 PM
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He has 15 goals in his last 132 games, NHL/AHL (mostly AHL), Regular season/Playoffs. 15 goals.. 0.11 goals-per-game.

Do people still believe he can be a quality top-6 forward?
Probably not (I've been one of his biggest fans). Solid 3rd liner I think is what most Oiler fans are hoping for now. He's got the defensive awareness and the size and speed.

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He has 15 goals in his last 132 games, NHL/AHL (mostly AHL), Regular season/Playoffs. 15 goals.. 0.11 goals-per-game.

Do people still believe he can be a quality top-6 forward?
He won't be a top 6 forward but I can see him becoming a solid 3rd line forward. His defensive game has improved quite a bit and he still has some great speed to his game which could translate to chipping in a decent amount of points. I think if the Oilers converted him to center, it would force him to become less of a perimeter player and create more chances for himself

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02-02-2013, 03:00 PM
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I was really worried about MPS's development being buried all the time, but it seems like NJD is doing the same thing with Larsson. Maybe it's better to ease them in?

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02-02-2013, 06:05 PM
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He has 15 goals in his last 132 games, NHL/AHL (mostly AHL), Regular season/Playoffs. 15 goals.. 0.11 goals-per-game.

Do people still believe he can be a quality top-6 forward?
I think most of us are expecting a Radek Dvorak-esque player.

Big, fast, defensively responsible 3rd liner who could play on your second line in a pinch.

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02-02-2013, 06:11 PM
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If he bulks up and gets a little bit more comfortable with physical play/taking hits, I think he can be a good third line winger. He's got great speed, a big frame and enough offensive instinct to provide a little bit of offense from a third line.

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02-02-2013, 06:11 PM
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I think most of us are expecting a Radek Dvorak-esque player.

Big, fast, defensively responsible 3rd liner who could play on your second line in a pinch.
Not what he was drafted to be. I can't help but be disappointed with him.

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02-02-2013, 06:20 PM
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Not what he was drafted to be. I can't help but be disappointed with him.
True, but the vast majority of players in that range don't end up being impact players. Even if he only ends up being Dvorak, it was a good pick to make. He had the upside to be a star.

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02-02-2013, 06:28 PM
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Yeah, I guess hindsight is 20/20. Kulikov looks pretty good right now.

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02-02-2013, 09:37 PM
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I think most of us are expecting a Radek Dvorak-esque player.

Big, fast, defensively responsible 3rd liner who could play on your second line in a pinch.

Man that is a huge drop off from what expectations were with his skillset.

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02-02-2013, 09:40 PM
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I'd like to see the Pens swap prospects for him. Best case scenario, he pulls it together and plays a role similar to Kunitz at some point. More likely scenario, fits our system well in the bottom 6.

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02-02-2013, 10:03 PM
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his skating is NHL calibre.

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02-02-2013, 10:10 PM
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his skating is NHL calibre.
He's an NHL calibur player playing in the bottom 6, but he's not the top 6 scorer he was drafted to be. Most people may be disappointed, but his development is very similar to Freddy Sjostrom's. A fast skating Swede who doesn't develop the ability to score in the NHL, yet can stick with an NHL squad because of his speed and defensive ability.

Not what Oilers' fans wanted, but he should be decent.

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02-02-2013, 10:19 PM
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He's an NHL calibur player playing in the bottom 6, but he's not the top 6 scorer he was drafted to be. Most people may be disappointed, but his development is very similar to Freddy Sjostrom's. A fast skating Swede who doesn't develop the ability to score in the NHL, yet can stick with an NHL squad because of his speed and defensive ability.

Not what Oilers' fans wanted, but he should be decent.
This. I was hoping for a Hossa lite player, but you win some and lose some. He is def not a bust but hasnt developed as expected. Of course he is still young and could develop suddenly but who knows.

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02-02-2013, 10:19 PM
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If he will get his offensive confiedence back, he will be a productive player. Don't think it will happen with the Oilers who are stacked with young talent.

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02-02-2013, 10:22 PM
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coming back to Europe?

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02-02-2013, 10:58 PM
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who said he is?

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02-03-2013, 02:22 AM
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Man that is a huge drop off from what expectations were with his skillset.
If he ever develops a bit more gumption and starts driving the net, his upside could definitely be higher than a Dvorak level.

I'm not sure that's going to happen though.

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02-03-2013, 02:28 AM
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MPS is still a prospect?

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02-03-2013, 02:32 AM
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He is definitely an NHL talent but is buried BIG TIME in Edmonton. So much so that he was recently demoted to the AHL in favour of Anton Lander.

He's worth more to Edmonton than anyone else is going to pay for him, he's honestly not a very good trade target.
That was only because Horcoff isn't going on IR and they needed to bring up a center. It was just a numbers thing. Someone had to be sent down and it wasn't going to be Hartikainen. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets called up once Horcoff is ready to go. Defensively, he's looked great this season.

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02-03-2013, 10:27 AM
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He has 15 goals in his last 132 games, NHL/AHL (mostly AHL), Regular season/Playoffs. 15 goals.. 0.11 goals-per-game.

Do people still believe he can be a quality top-6 forward?
I never saw him as one either. On the international stage excelled in the juniors due to his speed and size. On the senior level, not so much. Put up decent stats at Worlds put those came practically all against the "minnows". He was invisible against the other top 6 countries and in the games that mattered.

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02-03-2013, 01:04 PM
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I think most of us are expecting a Radek Dvorak-esque player.

Big, fast, defensively responsible 3rd liner who could play on your second line in a pinch.
He was expected to be much more when he was drafted though. I remember talks of him having top line potential and possibly being a steal with the skill set he had. I will agree that as of now really only Kulikov has proven to be better out of the players drafted after him. But there are quite a few players that still are showing they have top 6 potential that were drafted after him.

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02-03-2013, 03:59 PM
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He was expected to be much more when he was drafted though. I remember talks of him having top line potential and possibly being a steal with the skill set he had. I will agree that as of now really only Kulikov has proven to be better out of the players drafted after him. But there are quite a few players that still are showing they have top 6 potential that were drafted after him.
Ehh, he was one of those guys who was drafted because he had all the physical tools, but you're hoping he develops the toolbox to use them.

Decent gamble to take, but I'd say rarely do picks like that hit their top-end.

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MPS is still a prospect?
Easy to forget how young some of these Oilers are because they started so young but Paajarvi is the same age as Kreider. Not suggesting one will become better than the other (I'd obviously rather Kreider) but let's keep age in mind.

A 21-year-old is done developing if he plays for the Oilers and is a potential franchise forward when he doesn't.

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So far, he's proven to be soft, weak on the puck, poor scoring touch and hockey sense. I thought he could be a Hossa type winger but he's been a major letdown. Exhibit A for a player that just hasnt progressed in his career.

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