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RD Ryan Sproul (2011, 55th overall, Detroit)

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02-02-2013, 11:58 AM
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His points per game is tops in the entire CHL for defenseman. And by a pretty large margin.

And to answer the above question about a comparison. I don't have one. Not a fan of them in most cases.
How did Canada not take this kid for the WJC's?

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02-02-2013, 12:31 PM
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How did Canada not take this kid for the WJC's?
Because Ryan Murphy and his 31 points in 39 games is better suited for the PP... his 6 goals on the season really show that compared to Sprouls 16 in 6 less games

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02-03-2013, 03:37 AM
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How did Canada not take this kid for the WJC's?
It was a big mistake, but I am Wings fan so I though maybe it was just me pulling for him. I don't think he had a great camp either and they were certain of the guys they wanted to run the PP. In my opinion though, nobody is a bigger powerplay threat in junior hockey than Sproul. So it was a mistake and I think he is good enough defensively to have made that squad.

On comparisons being asked, I generally go Brent Burns. He doesn't have a great feel for the defensive zone yet and isn't as physical as his size would suggest at all times. Kind of how I view Burns, a big man with great skating that brings lots of offense but can get himself and his team in trouble from time to time.

He is having a very impressive year, curious to watch him in Grand Rapids later assuming his team is knocked out in the first round of the OHL playoffs. The Griffins are poised for a deep run in the AHL in my opinion. His cannon shot on the PP will be a big add late in the season.

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02-03-2013, 04:54 AM
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I've long been a massive fan of Sproul and the potential he possesses. Those comparing him to the likes of MA Bergeron have no idea what type of player he is. He's definitely a very underrated prospect.
My MAB comparison was based on the hypothetical "what if he never figures out a defensive game any better than what he is at currently" that someone prior to me asked.

Basically a PP specialist with ES minutes of a 5/6 defender that has tons of offensive IQ and skating ability.

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02-03-2013, 07:36 AM
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My MAB comparison was based on the hypothetical "what if he never figures out a defensive game any better than what he is at currently" that someone prior to me asked.

Basically a PP specialist with ES minutes of a 5/6 defender that has tons of offensive IQ and skating ability.
A giant with offense and mediocre defense would be more like Kurtis Foster or Cody Franson.

Best case would be Alex Edler development to the physical and defensive areas

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02-03-2013, 01:40 PM
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Between RS, Ouellet, Backman and Machenko (if he can stay healthy), Wings fans definitely have some things to look forward to on the back-end in the next few years.

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02-03-2013, 02:46 PM
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The only thing I've been a little concerned about is his engagement level at times. You watch him, and sometimes he's standing upright and completely like he's not even playing. He looks like the whistle has gone or something, and then he'll receive a pass and he's back into game mode.

Maybe it's just the appearance of the thing, but he seems like he's spacing out. Maybe that's being a bit bored with OHL level hockey too.

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02-03-2013, 02:55 PM
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Between RS, Ouellet, Backman and Machenko (if he can stay healthy), Wings fans definitely have some things to look forward to on the back-end in the next few years.
Don't count on it. Knowing Holland, they will all be in the AHL in 2020

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02-04-2013, 04:17 PM
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Sproul OHL player of the week, he beat out Quine.

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/a...of-week/137705
is the OHL defenseman of the year award basically in the bag for him at this point? and this might sound crazy but is 30 goals realistic for him this season?

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02-07-2013, 10:09 PM
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3 more assist tonight and was +3 he is now 17-33-50 a +7 in 35 games is leading the defenseman in the OHL, and 30th overall in the league.

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02-07-2013, 10:22 PM
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Leading the whole CHL now no?

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02-07-2013, 10:29 PM
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What an unreal year he's having. Just putting up huge numbers every game.

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02-07-2013, 11:36 PM
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Leading the whole CHL now no?
5th behind 2 in the Q and 2 in the WHL.
WHL - Brenden Kichton 17-45-62 53GP 1.169 ppg
Q - Kevin Gagné 14-41-55 46GP 1.195 ppg
Q - Mathieu Brisebois 11-42-53 49GP 1.089 ppg
WHL - Troy Rutkowski 17-35- 52 54GP .962 ppg
OHL - Ryan Sproul 17-33-50 35GP 1.42 ppg

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02-08-2013, 12:18 AM
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Jesus. Detroit may have the CHL's two best defenders, period.

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02-08-2013, 12:28 AM
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Ouellet is 7-25-32 in 35 GP for a .914 PPG
but is by and far more well rounded and polished defensively he is also in a sort of scoring slump, not sure the numbers but his production was down in January. if he can pick up the pace again and with his team in good playoff position I could see both him and Sproul winning their respective leagues Defenseman of the year award. and both be in the running for the CHL Defenseman of the year award. but to be honest I could see Sproul if he continues to put up these numbers and has another goal scoring run like in late December - January winning the OHL's player of the year award.

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02-09-2013, 07:41 PM
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Ryan Sproul discusses drought conditions:

also, he has a goal and an assist tonight. Game's not over yet.

More fun stats! He has a PPG of 1.44 (repeating), which is better than the #5 guy in overall points (Eric Locke). However, the next closest guy, Charles Sarault, who is #3, has a PPG of 1.5. Nick Cousins leads the league in points and has a PPG of 1.56.

If Sproul played every game at this pace (of course, he did not and likely would not), he would have 76 points right now to Cousins' 83 and would be 5th in points. He would also have 38 goals, which would be good for second in goal scoring. In the entire league.


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02-09-2013, 09:27 PM
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Ryan Sproul discusses drought conditions:

also, he has a goal and an assist tonight. Game's not over yet.

More fun stats! He has a PPG of 1.44 (repeating), which is better than the #5 guy in overall points (Eric Locke). However, the next closest guy, Charles Sarault, who is #3, has a PPG of 1.5. Nick Cousins leads the league in points and has a PPG of 1.56.

If Sproul played every game at this pace (of course, he did not and likely would not), he would have 76 points right now to Cousins' 83 and would be 5th in points. He would also have 38 goals, which would be good for second in goal scoring. In the entire league.
Lmao thanks for the info on the drought from a completely different Sproul. he finished the game with just the goal and assist but yeah really putting up some crazy numbers right now

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02-10-2013, 02:01 AM
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If Sproul played every game at this pace (of course, he did not and likely would not), he would have 38 goals
Check your math on that one

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02-10-2013, 10:19 AM
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Leading up to the draft I was confused why he wasn't ranked higher, he seemed to have the whole package. I know he needed to polish his game, but he screamed first round to me at the time. I was and still am thrilled that we got him. It's always nice when your team makes the pick your wishing for.

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02-10-2013, 10:58 AM
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Leading up to the draft I was confused why he wasn't ranked higher, he seemed to have the whole package. I know he needed to polish his game, but he screamed first round to me at the time. I was and still am thrilled that we got him. It's always nice when your team makes the pick your wishing for.
Its because he was so unknown. He didnt even start his draft year in the OHL, came on to the Soo and hardly played at all first half. Then he just tore up in the second half. To go from not on an OHL team to being drafted in the second round is a big accomplishment. It shows how far hes come though, led OHL dmen in goal scoring last year and now is absolutely crushing everyone offensively.

At 6'4 and very mobile there is a lot to like but it isnt all that surprising he was a second rounder to me

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02-10-2013, 11:13 AM
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Check your math on that one
26.5. I... had a few ginger ales. Good catch.

26 would be 17th.

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02-10-2013, 08:11 PM
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No points today, what a bust.

19 points in his last 10 games though

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2 Assist today was also +2 he now has 54 points which was his total last year difference being last year he played 61 games, and so far this year he has only played in 38

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4 more assist tonight, 57 pts

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4 more assist tonight, 57 pts
Amazing...

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