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02-03-2013, 09:45 AM
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If someone was called up as injury insurance, it would have been Zucker, as he was the most deserving in such a case. Coyle being called up is a call up of need due to the added size he brings etc. This is a call up to play and to shake things up.

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02-03-2013, 10:06 AM
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I wouldn't be too happy if I were Zucker.

I hate call-ups not based on merit. I don't care if Coyle is x height and x weight. Zucker has significantly outplayed him, and he brings attributes (speed) that is needed more than size anyway.
You have to fill the needs of the team, and currently we have too many smallish/weaker top 6 forward.

Bringing up Zucker would only make that problem worse, not better.

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02-03-2013, 10:53 AM
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Really exited to see Coyle make his debut!
And even more exited to see the new line combos.
I also would like to see Kassian on the ice soon..

And hello to everyone! I have followed this board for about two years now and finally made a profile of my own.

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02-03-2013, 11:04 AM
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Parise - Koivu - Heater
PMB - Brodz - Coyle
Granlund - Mitchell - Seto
Powe - Konopka - Clutter

Can't see Yeo breaking up the first line this early (they played okay against Chicago but stunk against the Ducks along with everyone else). Just seems too early to try and "fix" the first line when they've accounted for so much of our offense so far.

I expect Coyle on the 2nd line. Would be surprised if Yeo were to insert Coyle on the first line directly from Huston. What has he done to earn that and what would be the reaction from the vets?

Mitchell has played center with the Sharks. He's one of the faster skaters on our roster and good defensively. Take some pressure off Granlund and move him to wing.

Clutter gets jobbed but ... someone is going to be the odd man out.
I dont think you break up the first line to punish them for playing bad but you break it up to get scoring throughout the line up. The nice thing about the wild right now is that we can move pieces around without necessarily diminishing the talent on the first line.

For example a first line of Parise-Koivu-Butch isn't any worse than Parise-Koivu-Heater. Its definitely different but in some ways its better.

Between Brodziak, Clutterbuck, Seto, Heatley, Cullen, Granlund and now Coyle you have plenty of pieces that should make up an effective second and third line.

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02-03-2013, 11:18 AM
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Really exited to see Coyle make his debut!
And even more exited to see the new line combos.
I also would like to see Kassian on the ice soon..

And hello to everyone! I have followed this board for about two years now and finally made a profile of my own.
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02-03-2013, 11:51 AM
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Same players weren't making a respectable top-9 so something had to change. Nice to see the key piece of the Burns trade get an opportunity. Wouldn't be surprised if Granlund or Setoguchi sat to send a message, the 4th line's done their jobs pretty well.

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02-03-2013, 12:18 PM
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This should interesting to see where they put Coyle.

I agree that he would be more valuable on a top six position, than a 3rd or 4th line spot.

My guess is

Parise-Koivu-Coyle (Speed-Playmaker-Big body good with the cycle)
PMB-Granlund-Heater (Speed-Playmaker-Big Body good with the cycle)

But if he's really shaking thing up.

Parise-Koivu-PMB
Seto-Cullen-Heatley
Granlund-Broadziak-Coyle


Hopefully Coyle doesn't look too "deer in the headlights" out there. I don't expect any points from him, but hopefully he makes a few nice plays, while keeping his rookie mistakes to a minimum, and not be horrible defensively.

My guess is the first period he will look pretty bad, will come on better at the end of the second, and then fade in the last half of the 3rd period.

Hopefully the team can score some goals, no matter what the lines are!

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02-03-2013, 12:42 PM
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Parise-Koivu-Coyle
Butch-Granlund-Heatley
Clutter-Brodz-Seto

I can dig it!

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02-03-2013, 12:44 PM
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Granlund isn't playing wing. Why does everyone keep insisting he will. If anything he is sent down before they put him at center.

Also give Mitchell a shot on the 3rd line maybe. His game has been improving lately and he has provided spark.

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02-03-2013, 12:52 PM
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If someone was called up as injury insurance, it would have been Zucker, as he was the most deserving in such a case. Coyle being called up is a call up of need due to the added size he brings etc. This is a call up to play and to shake things up.
Yes clearly Zucker has been a little better but his lack of size is the reason he isn't called up. You hit it right on the head Talon.

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02-03-2013, 01:04 PM
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Good for Coyle. Excited to watch him play as I'll be at the game tomorrow. His Size and PF play will be a breath of fresh air after the Anaheim game.

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02-03-2013, 01:30 PM
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Its too bad there wasn't another announcement that we traded Setoguchi with this call up...

A man can dream...

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02-03-2013, 01:39 PM
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Would've liked to see Zucker as well. Good for Charlie though.

Bouchard - Koivu - Coyle
Parise - Granlund - Setoguchi
Heatley - Brodziak - Clutterbuck
Mitchell - Konopka - Powe

Seems weird to drop Heatley all the way the 3rd line, but I've been unimpressed with him lately. Swap him and Seto if needed.

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02-03-2013, 01:52 PM
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Seems weird to drop Heatley all the way the 3rd line, but I've been unimpressed with him lately. Swap him and Seto if needed.
And you've been more impressed with Seto??

I'd go as far as scratching Seto. He's been brutal. But that wouldn't help you trade him if other teams know your scratching him...

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02-03-2013, 02:02 PM
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And you've been more impressed with Seto??

I'd go as far as scratching Seto. He's been brutal. But that wouldn't help you trade him if other teams know your scratching him...
They both haven't been scoring, but at least Seto has been bringing physical play. Also keeps a RH shot on the line.

Scratching players is to send a message to those that aren't playing with effort. You can't say that about Seto right now.

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They both haven't been scoring, but at least Seto has been bringing physical play. Also keeps a RH shot on the line.
Heatley hasn't been scoring? 4 goals 2 assists in 8 games?

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Heatley hasn't been scoring? 4 goals 2 assists in 8 games?
Nothing in his last three. Isn't that what the line shakeup is about?

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02-03-2013, 02:08 PM
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Parise - Koivu - Heatley
Bouchard - Brodziak - Coyle
Granlund - Konopka - Setoguchi
Clutterbuck - Powe - Mitchell

Granlund needs to move to wing if we want to salvage anything this year.
Borderline troll post putting Granlund with Konopka. Lol.. That should spark the offense!!

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Nothing in his last three. Isn't that what the line shakeup is about?
I don't believe so and I've seen nothing in Heatley's game that would require a shake-up to get his attention.

Even the best goal scorers and point producers can go through a stretch of a few games without showing up on the stat sheet, doesn't mean anything.

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02-03-2013, 02:12 PM
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I don't believe so and I've seen nothing in Heatley's game that would require a shake-up to get his attention.

Even the best goal scorers and point producers can go through a stretch of a few games without showing up on the stat sheet, doesn't mean anything.
It wasn't directed at Heatley, necessarily. Just trying to find a good combo for all three lines. Going to have to eventually get Brodziak going as well. Maybe Heatley could help that; they did fine together last year.

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Any top line that doesn't include Parise is not going to happen. Same with Koivu. I don't see why everyone is suddenly pining to break that line up anyway. Without them we probably are a one win team at best. They have carried us

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They both haven't been scoring, but at least Seto has been bringing physical play. Also keeps a RH shot on the line.

Scratching players is to send a message to those that aren't playing with effort. You can't say that about Seto right now.
Seto has been brutal. He is the reason the 2nd line hasn't done anything. I'd scratch him instantly. He doesn't wanna be here. Trade him for a defenseman. Or a couple 2nd round picks I wouldn't mind.

8 games in 0 Goals and 2 assists..oh yeah and a measly 10 shots on goal from a player that was supposed to be a 25 goal a year guy. He is not as good as he was advertised and I wouldn't cry a bit if he was gone.

Your trying to tell me you'd scratch Heatley over Setoguchi?? Your flat out nuts.

Heatley's game is fine, he's not a 5 on 5 force anymore. But he is still a 30-35 goal scorer who makes his hay on the PP. He will score goals, that is for certain. What about Seto??

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02-03-2013, 02:32 PM
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Nice to have a lot of line-up options. Bummer they are kind of hard to fit together.

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Personally I think you could put Parise on any line and it would be offensive..He is that good.

Get Koivu back with Bouchard those two have always played well together.

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Seto has been brutal. He is the reason the 2nd line hasn't done anything. I'd scratch him instantly. He doesn't wanna be here. Trade him for a defenseman. Or a couple 2nd round picks I wouldn't mind.

8 games in 0 Goals and 2 assists..oh yeah and a measly 10 shots on goal from a player that was supposed to be a 25 goal a year guy. He is not as good as he was advertised and I wouldn't cry a bit if he was gone.

Your trying to tell me you'd scratch Heatley over Setoguchi?? Your flat out nuts.

Heatley's game is fine, he's not a 5 on 5 force anymore. But he is still a 30-35 goal scorer who makes his hay on the PP. He will score goals, that is for certain. What about Seto??
I'd be interested to see where I advocated scratching Heatley.

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