I hate call-ups not based on merit. I don't care if Coyle is x height and x weight. Zucker has significantly outplayed him, and he brings attributes (speed) that is needed more than size anyway.
I think (merit= superior quality or worth) Coyle has that merit, it's his innate merit of size + skill that the Wild need. He just may be superior to Zucker at this time, at least to management. That said, I really really want Zucker up here.
Seto has been brutal. He is the reason the 2nd line hasn't done anything. I'd scratch him instantly. He doesn't wanna be here. Trade him for a defenseman. Or a couple 2nd round picks I wouldn't mind.
8 games in 0 Goals and 2 assists..oh yeah and a measly 10 shots on goal from a player that was supposed to be a 25 goal a year guy. He is not as good as he was advertised and I wouldn't cry a bit if he was gone.
Your trying to tell me you'd scratch Heatley over Setoguchi?? Your flat out nuts.
Heatley's game is fine, he's not a 5 on 5 force anymore. But he is still a 30-35 goal scorer who makes his hay on the PP. He will score goals, that is for certain. What about Seto??
....whhaaaatt? The reason the 2nd line has been terrible is mostly because of Granlund. Seto has played very, very hard. You don't scratch a guy who goes all out on each shift and comes up short on points do you? He has had chances and like Cullen, can't finish.
Seto hasn't been bad. His physical play has impressed me and you can tell he wants to score. Just have to find a better combo to get that second line clicking. I'd recommend bumping Seto up to the first line with Parise and Koivu and seeing if he can finally pot one (or more).
Not wanting him run out of town =/= not being disappointed in his production.
There are a lot of guys on this team that need to jump-started. It's about trying to find the right combinations right now.
I agree with that. Doesn't help anyone on that second line when they have 1/3 the shots of the first. I think that's due to the fact they are too small and basically get 1 shot on net then out muscled for the rebound/possession. Most of them are Cullen or Granlund snapping it on net as they enter the zone.
Apparently Im not the only one that thinks Setoguchi has been brutal. Moved to the 4th line today..possibly scratched tomorrow! Hate to say I told you so..
I still don't agree with you. If you put Seto on line 1 he would be productive. Put him with the other guy on the team who hasn't put up numbers on the stat sheet (granlund), can't penetrate the zone, can't keep the puck, and isn't making any plays, and he will continue to not put up anything. P.S. Granlund is also on the 4th line today.
Centering fourth line was Zenon Konopka with the wingers continually changing like a stoplight between Setoguchi, Powe, Granlund and Kassian.
The Wild then moved onto power play practice, with the first unit remaining: Heatley – Koivu – Parise – Bouchard – Suter. The second was altered with Cullen moving to the point: Cullen – Gilbert – Setoguchi – Coyle – Granlund.
Seto can run around and throw hits(that never do anything because he's soft) and not do anything offensively and yet people will still back him.
He is not that good of a player. Not a top 6 player. I just don't see the support for him and why it is merited. You people like him on potential and not what he actually brings to the table.
He's supposed to be a goal scorer. HE HAS ZERO GOALS.
Seto has laid people out a few times this season. He's hitting better than anyone but clutterbuck so far. Where the **** is Brodziak?
Seto has been effective only when paired with good players. Marleau and Thorton, for example. Granlund and Cullen aren't in the same ballpark. he's a complimentary player, and someone who should be the third best player on a line. he's been better than Cullen and Granlund ES.