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02-02-2013, 09:53 PM
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do colombus have 3 1st rounders?

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Yup.

On top of their own, they have the Rangers' and the Kings'.

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do colombus have 3 1st rounders?
Yep. It's their year to turn the franchise around.

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Yep. It's their year to turn the franchise around.
or just let those picks go to waste with horrible drafting...

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Has anyone on here seen much of Samuel Morin from Rimouski?
I've seen him twice live and maybe 4 other times on streams/TV.

He's a very fluid skater. He's very raw but I could see him develop an offensive game. If he gets meaner, he will be a force la Zadorov. Could see it happen too. He's a riser, and could very well end as a 1st rounder at the end of the year.

On another note, saw Diaby play today, and if he's there in the third round, jump on him. One of his teammate got hit in the back by Desbiens and Diaby came to defend said teammate. Wasn't fair. Yes Desbiens is only 6', but a pairing of Diaby and Tinordi would be awesome in the NHL. He's usually well positionned and is a good skater for a big guy, although not on Morin's level. He already has his physical game develop and I could see him develop in a bottom 4 defensive D that is physical.

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02-02-2013, 11:07 PM
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Curtis Lazar is on fire right now.

11 goals in his last 11 games (11th one currently ongoing).

If he finishes strong, he's definitely on my radar if we are picking 15th-20th.
I don't know about that. I haven't seen him play that much, mind you. But he didn't seem to me to be a first round talent.

Does he hit often?

His skating seemed to be his biggest asset, alongside his work ethic.

I don't feel he has the hands nor the hockey IQ to get picked in the 1st. But that was from a very small sample.

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or just let those picks go to waste with horrible drafting...
I thought their picks lately have been rather good.

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02-03-2013, 12:05 AM
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I don't know about that. I haven't seen him play that much, mind you. But he didn't seem to me to be a first round talent.

Does he hit often?

His skating seemed to be his biggest asset, alongside his work ethic.

I don't feel he has the hands nor the hockey IQ to get picked in the 1st. But that was from a very small sample.



I thought their picks lately have been rather good.
Agreed about the Jackets. It's their lottery picks that they screw up or play too safe. Rounds 2-7 are solid all around.

About Lazar, he's not overly physical but he's a tough and gritty Western kid. Does not shy away from anything. Hockey IQ is definitely high and you can see it in his defensive play. Creativity is sometimes questioned imo. Saw him live a few times and I gotta say his problem is inconsistency. His offence is a big ? because he could really blossom in the next few years or his ceiling could remain as a 3rd liner.

I personally see a lot of Peverley in him and I predict a similar ceiling.

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02-03-2013, 07:04 AM
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Lazar, his assist totals in 2 WHL teams is a big red flag.

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02-03-2013, 08:38 AM
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I wouldn't waste a high pick on Lazar. Limited offense...unless he slides into 3rd round or later. These kind of players are easily acquireable ie. Prust, Moen, etc...

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Lazar's game screams pro-level and will translate very well to the next level. His hockey IQ is what scouts love about him, as he does so many little things well. Details that aren't necessarily reflected in stats but that help a team win games. His current scoring streak only cements him as a top-15 pick IMO.

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I believe the Habs will finish 10th overall...therefore should pick around 20th...should consider Gauthier, Erne or Hartman...their game translates well to the pro level...our three second round picks should be Anthony Duclair, Laurent Dauphin and Nicholas Petan.
If any of these three guys are already chosen...go with Samuel Morin.

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If Shea Theodore is available still in the 2nd round the Habs should make him their pick, he's going to be really good in the NHL. Carrier and Dauphin also with Morin would make excellent 2nd & 3rd round picks for the Habs.


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Yup.

On top of their own, they have the Rangers' and the Kings'.
so the 1st, the 29th and the 30th

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so the 1st, the 29th and the 30th
Havn't watched the Kings lately have you? They could have 2 top 5 picks this year which means nothing with the way Columbus destroys prospects.

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I don't know about that. I haven't seen him play that much, mind you. But he didn't seem to me to be a first round talent.

Does he hit often?

His skating seemed to be his biggest asset, alongside his work ethic.

I don't feel he has the hands nor the hockey IQ to get picked in the 1st. But that was from a very small sample.



I thought their picks lately have been rather good.
You clearly haven't watched Lazar play His best asset is his IQ.... He's intelligent, strong, fast and has amazing work ethic and i'm not even mentioning his leadership quality.

If he's there in the 20's I pick him. He's what we should get, play's ANY position at forward and he's an energy forward.

This might not be a good thing but he reminds me of Chipchura when he was younger, just WAY faster.

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so the 1st, the 29th and the 30th
The kings and the Rangers are both bad at the moment.

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02-03-2013, 04:31 PM
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I wish there we could sucker the Capitals into trading their pick. Eller + 2nd?

They remind me of the Habs last year. You can see the failure in their eyes.

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02-03-2013, 04:37 PM
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This might not be a good thing but he reminds me of Chipchura when he was younger, just WAY faster.
And Lazar is a much better goal scorer. In his first 2 WHL seasons COMBINED Chipchura scored fewer goals than Lazar currently has this season.

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how close to the top 10 or even top 6 does 3 2nds and our first get us - if we finish out of top 20?

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how close to the top 10 or even top 6 does 3 2nds and our first get us - if we finish out of top 20?
Usually one 2nd round pick moves you up around 4-5 spots.

Last year though, CGY went from 14th to 21st and got the 42rd pick in return.

MAYBE we could get from ~20 to the top 10 if we put all 3 2nd rounders in the deal. Maybe. The top 6 would be a pipe dream.

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Usually one 2nd round pick moves you up around 4-5 spots.

Last year though, CGY went from 14th to 21st and got the 42rd pick in return.

MAYBE we could get from ~20 to the top 10 if we put all 3 2nd rounders in the deal. Maybe. The top 6 would be a pipe dream.
might not be a bad idea to put all 4 picks in + something like Eller if it gets us a game breaker at center or on the wing in top 6

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May not be such a good idea if the draft is as much deep as they say

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might not be a bad idea to put all 4 picks in + something like Eller if it gets us a game breaker at center or on the wing in top 6
Not so smart to put all our eggs in one basket.

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might not be a bad idea to put all 4 picks in + something like Eller if it gets us a game breaker at center or on the wing in top 6
In a draft as deep as this one you roll with your 4 picks in the top 60. Who is to say we don't get another Pacioretty, Mcdonagh & Subban in one shot?

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I wish there we could sucker the Capitals into trading their pick. Eller + 2nd?

They remind me of the Habs last year. You can see the failure in their eyes.
And what are the chances of getting a better player than Eller ? Value wise, Potential wise and even a better player than what he his right now... Yeah this wouldn't be great.

UNLESS, The plan is to give Eller fourth line minutes all season.

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And Lazar is a much better goal scorer. In his first 2 WHL seasons COMBINED Chipchura scored fewer goals than Lazar currently has this season.
Yes he his.
This might not have been a good comparison because Chip lacks offensive skills. But he's pretty much a smart hockey player/leader...

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might not be a bad idea to put all 4 picks in + something like Eller if it gets us a game breaker at center or on the wing in top 6
Would you offer this if it get you Drouin?

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