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01-15-2013, 10:41 PM
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I'm suggesting exactly what I suggested before the season. RGIII is worthless to us playing a style that we can't protect him in. We can't protect him in the style he's playing and we can't win playing another style.

If you're going to expose him this much, you need a much better O-line or else he's gonna get killed (like he did) and he becomes worthless to us.

If your argument is "anyone would've gotten hurt regardless of the o-line playing this way" well then that seems like an even bigger issue, does it not?
You better just accept the play style, because they're going to continue to play it. The greatest offensive line in the league wouldn't have prevented him from getting hurt how he did. Feels like your criticism of the line is completly misplaced considering the season they just had as a unit. Sounds like your beef is with the coaching staff for playing this style. I think most of us realize when you have a talent like RG3 with his rare skills, you're not going to run the old style pocket passer offense and take away half of his world class skill set. The Skins should and will continue to build this offense around his ability to pass AND run.


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01-15-2013, 11:23 PM
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Then they should expect to have his world class skill set for about 2 more years (probably half seasons at that, give or take) before he will be a pocket passer without escapability, instead of finding a scheme they can protect him in now, and allowing him to escape when needed.

Every year like this one probably shortens his career by two years.

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01-16-2013, 10:16 AM
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Then they should expect to have his world class skill set for about 2 more years (probably half seasons at that, give or take) before he will be a pocket passer without escapability, instead of finding a scheme they can protect him in now, and allowing him to escape when needed.

Every year like this one probably shortens his career by two years.
I dont know. Name we one QB not named Randall Cunningham that could play the way RG3 does, and could do it for a decade. Even Randall was about a 5yr wonder. Vick-- we will never know, thanks to his "habits".

I dont think you can protect a running QB in today's NFL. Fran Tarkenton didnt deal with 300lb behemoths, and neither did Steve Young (or Randall), to these degrees.

Steve Young may be the best possible comparison, as he had a relatively long career, but he also sat on the sidelines for the first 5 years watching Joe, so his wisdom as a runner was more entrenched. If RG3 started playing at age 27, this would be a very different animal, I think. Plus Young really toned down his running the last 5 years of his career too.

So, who is RG3 comparible too, so that you can say "if we defended RG3 like HIM, his career wouldnt be shortened"?

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01-16-2013, 11:32 AM
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I would say Steve Young and John Elway are great examples of guys who could run but didn't do it so much as to ruin their careers. Steve McNair almost fits but probably ran a little too much.

Guys like Daunte Culpepper, Vick, Vince Young etc. are how not to do it.

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Eagles and Bears....

Hired coaches.

Chip Kelly finally relented and is going to Philly. Here's to hoping he's Steve Spurrier #2.

Marc Trestmann is going to the Bears. He was terrible in SF, but that was a long time ago.

Interesting, for sure.

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I would say Steve Young and John Elway are great examples of guys who could run but didn't do it so much as to ruin their careers. Steve McNair almost fits but probably ran a little too much.

Guys like Daunte Culpepper, Vick, Vince Young etc. are how not to do it.
Defense are different than they were in the 80's and mid 90's. Elway and Young would have a tough time surviving now. 80's Dlineman are 10's linebackers. 80's linebackers are 10's safeties, and so on.

Elway and Young didnt have the speed of RG3 either (has any QB?). That said, I would agree if their is anyone to emulate, its those 2. However they are not completely similar players.

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01-18-2013, 04:27 PM
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Robert Griffin III knee injury: What really led to it during the Redskins-Seahawks game?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...y.html?hpid=z1

Haven't read the article yet, but I bet there is a sentence in there somewhere like this:

"...at this point RG3's knee goes back and to the left....back and to the left." Jim Garrison like.

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01-18-2013, 04:56 PM
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I bellow like a stabbed cow every time I watch a knee or ankle injury. I just know I'll be seeing replays of his two injuries for years to come. That makes me angry. That makes me angry, Shanahan's coaching in that game still has me angry, Banks makes me angry, the drive in and out of Fedex makes me angry, and Vince Gray/Mike Wise make me angry. The cap penalty makes me angry too. I'm angry.

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I bellow like a stabbed cow every time I watch a knee or ankle injury. I just know I'll be seeing replays of his two injuries for years to come. That makes me angry. That makes me angry, Shanahan's coaching in that game still has me angry, Banks makes me angry, the drive in and out of Fedex makes me angry, and Vince Gray/Mike Wise make me angry. The cap penalty makes me angry too. I'm angry.
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You can't get the right damned rolls here, and that makes me angry.

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My question: What kind of guy goes after someone as big as Trent Williams, cracks a champagne bottle on his head and tasers him? Brave dude.
That's a great YOLO

Me I wouldn't even try to taze Trent

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That's a great YOLO

Me I wouldn't even try to taze Trent
Who carries a taser with them, to a nightclub?

Someone looking for/expecting trouble, thats who.

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01-27-2013, 08:50 AM
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Who carries a taser with them, to a nightclub?

Someone looking for/expecting trouble, thats who.
Expecting, maybe. Looking, not necessarily.

Could carry it for defense. It's better than having a gun on you in my mind.

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Expecting, maybe. Looking, not necessarily.

Could carry it for defense. It's better than having a gun on you in my mind.
Well, one is certainly illegal (gun). I cant speak to whether Taser's are legal.

Still, I dont know a single person, in all of my life, that goes out to a club with a weapon like a taser on them. Sure, I get that it happens....but you're running in some funky circles if you think you need it.

Its not like this was some inner city street corner. It's one of the more well known clubs in Honolulu.

The dude was looking for something, and he found it. He was probably targeting football players, and looking to make his mark. Stupid Trent Williams walked right into it, is my guess. This isnt the first time a Pro athlete gets entangled like this at a "Night Spot"...and in a few of those instances, the assailant knew exactly what they were doing.

I'd wager is its the same here

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It was the Owner of the club and he had a history with the cops
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/b...l?id=188627631

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It was the Owner of the club and he had a history with the cops
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/b...l?id=188627631
6 time Felon...I'd say it's time to put this guy away for a while.

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Source: Redskins special teams coach Danny Smith leaving for Steelers. They've been after him for a while. Pittsburgh is home.
Maybe the Redskins can have punt returners who are taught to return punts instead of juking around.

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Maybe the Redskins can have punt returners who are taught to return punts instead of juking around.
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Spoiler Alert: RG3 wins ROY (Offense)

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What I think probably set Griffin apart in the minds of the voters is the dramatic degree of his impact. All three of these rookie quarterbacks led their teams to the playoffs, and Luck's team had only won two games the year before (which is why they got Luck). But there is a perception, and a pretty well justified one, that Griffin singlehandedly dragged a sagging Redskins franchise from two decades of doldrums and made them exciting, interesting and relevant again. The Redskins' lack of a franchise quarterback over the past 20 years had become the sad story of their entire organization, and the driving force behind the decision to trade three first-round picks and a second-round pick for the chance to draft Griffin. That he made as good as he did on that trade, and that he did so right away and in such breathtaking fashion, may have set him apart.

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Ding ding ding

Best skins news since oh that TD to Paulson.

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Great news! Not get healthy Griff!

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Spoiler Alert: RG3 wins ROY (Offense)

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post...ent-for-rg-iii
No doubt Griffin made the Skins fun to watch, but Morris needs a little credit as well. Sure it can be said the threat of Griffin led to Morris great season, but Morris still needs to run for those yards and TD's.

Anyway, congrats to Griffin. Well deserved.

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A guy looked like MJ to me in a super bowl commercial.

Never stopped wishing it was the skins that forked up a 3 4 and 5 for Boldin.

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