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02-03-2013, 04:05 PM
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No, you wouldn't get that high. Not both, not in this draft where it is stacked. If you get a first most you'll get is a second tier prospect who'll likely never make it or a bottom line player. Ignila is UFA and already on downside of his career. You sound like one of those guys who over rate their players.

Just look at similar players traded for in the past. Hossa, who was in his prime when traded to Pitt, netted a first, fringe prospect(Angelo Esposito) and a 4th liner(Armstrong). Forsberg netted a first, Upshall and fringe prospect who never made it.
Um....Esposito was still a solid prospect at the time

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02-03-2013, 04:09 PM
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Let me get this straight.

44 Game sample size = Selective statistic
5 Game sample size = Sound grounds to support your argument

Got it.
Absolutely hilarious.

Gotta love the Monteal fans in here who think anyone would rather have Bourque on their team.

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02-03-2013, 04:21 PM
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Cammalleri has negative value. Signed for $7 million and a 6 cap hit next year and isn't worth close to it.

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02-03-2013, 04:30 PM
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Um....Esposito was still a solid prospect at the time
Not really...he was a mistake. Angelo Esposito and solid prospect never go in same sentence together.

Kovalchuk...traded in his prime...27 years old...netted a first in average draft, Cormier who doubtful will make it, Odaya who was promtly flipped for a 2nd round pick. There were a couple of throw-ins going each way but 1st, Cormier, Oduaya was guts of Kovalchuk trade.

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02-03-2013, 06:12 PM
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Not really...he was a mistake. Angelo Esposito and solid prospect never go in same sentence together.

Kovalchuk...traded in his prime...27 years old...netted a first in average draft, Cormier who doubtful will make it, Odaya who was promtly flipped for a 2nd round pick. There were a couple of throw-ins going each way but 1st, Cormier, Oduaya was guts of Kovalchuk trade.
Angelo Esposito was the key part of that trade. You can pretend he wasn't, but that doesn't make it so.

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02-03-2013, 06:15 PM
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Absolutely hilarious.

Gotta love the Monteal fans in here who think anyone would rather have Bourque on their team.
Bourque had another great game on Montreals top line while Cammy still looking for his teeth has earned the name "cammallomez". I hope your owner doesn't mind eating that 6million

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02-03-2013, 06:18 PM
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Bourque had another great game on Montreals top line while Cammy still looking for his teeth has earned the name "cammallomez". I hope your owner doesn't mind eating that 6million
He had a great game last night but what ever makes you feel better

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Bourque had another great game on Montreals top line while Cammy still looking for his teeth has earned the name "cammallomez". I hope your owner doesn't mind eating that 6million
Cammalleri played very good for 28 games for the Flames last season.

It's a good thing we can now claim he has negative value after 6 games this season.

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02-03-2013, 06:19 PM
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He had a great game last night but what ever makes you feel better
Oh ya he was a real superstar, I saw he almost took a pass without falling down. Someone should let him know he is allowed to skate around and do stuff instead of just waiting for a one-timer.

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Oh ya he was a real superstar, I saw he almost took a pass without falling down. Someone should let him know he is allowed to skate around and do stuff instead of just waiting for a one-timer.
Your blind hatred is hilarious, he had a great game even if he didn't score.

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02-03-2013, 06:49 PM
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I absolutely love Cammy and would love for Ottawa to take a chance on him. He's a mini version of Heatley and would click well with Spezza (once he returns).

I'd be willing to eat up his salary and give up a 2nd for him. Given the shorten season, the hit this year is minimized and he'd have one year left at full cost but Ottawa would have the option of buying him out if it failed miserably. It would also give Silfverberg and Zibanejad some breathing room.

This line-up would have more potency:

Cammalleri - Spezza - Silfverberg
Michalek - Turris - Alfredsson
Greening - Smith - Neil
Regin - Zibanejad - Condra

EDIT: Not to be forgotten is that this may be Alfredsson's last year and we will need a top-6 forward for next year. Zibanejad could then slip into Afredsson's spot (I know, not his natural position).


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I absolutely love Cammy and would love for Ottawa to take a chance on him. He's a mini version of Heatley and would click well with Spezza (once he returns).

I'd be willing to eat up his salary and give up a 2nd for him. Given the shorten season, the hit this year is minimized and he'd have one year left at full cost but Ottawa would have the option of buying him out if it failed miserably. It would also give Silfverberg and Zibanejad some breathing room.

This line-up would have more potency:

Cammalleri - Spezza - Silfverberg
Michalek - Turris - Alfredsson
Greening - Smith - Neil
Regin - Zibanejad - Condra
A 2nd, pass

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Gotta love the Monteal fans in here who think anyone would rather have Bourque on their team.
Bourque this season is 1000x better than Cammy.

He had surgery this off-season so I'm sure he was playing injured last season.

Very few people actually realize how soft Cammalleri is...

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02-03-2013, 06:59 PM
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Bourque this season is 1000x better than Cammy.

He had surgery this off-season so I'm sure he was playing injured last season.
If you call what he did last season playing .

All jokes aside I am glad he is doing better he has the skills to be a great player just never has the work ethic to do it.

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02-03-2013, 07:23 PM
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I absolutely love Cammy and would love for Ottawa to take a chance on him. He's a mini version of Heatley and would click well with Spezza (once he returns).

I'd be willing to eat up his salary and give up a 2nd for him. Given the shorten season, the hit this year is minimized and he'd have one year left at full cost but Ottawa would have the option of buying him out if it failed miserably. It would also give Silfverberg and Zibanejad some breathing room.

This line-up would have more potency:

Cammalleri - Spezza - Silfverberg
Michalek - Turris - Alfredsson
Greening - Smith - Neil
Regin - Zibanejad - Condra

EDIT: Not to be forgotten is that this may be Alfredsson's last year and we will need a top-6 forward for next year. Zibanejad could then slip into Afredsson's spot (I know, not his natural position).
How about Cammy for 2nd + Eric Gryba

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02-03-2013, 07:28 PM
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Bourque this season is 1000x better than Cammy.

He had surgery this off-season so I'm sure he was playing injured last season.

Very few people actually realize how soft Cammalleri is...
Stopped reading.

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02-03-2013, 07:35 PM
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How about Cammy for 2nd + Eric Gryba
I'd do it but I think most Sens fans on here would ask for a 3rd or 4th coming back with Cammy.

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I'd do it but I think most Sens fans on here would ask for a 3rd or 4th coming back with Cammy.
I wouldn't even give up a 2nd for him. I'd much rather take my chances on the FA market with the $6 million. Just not a fan at all of what Cammy brings to the table at this point.

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I wouldn't even give up a 2nd for him. I'd much rather take my chances on the FA market with the $6 million. Just not a fan at all of what Cammy brings to the table at this point.
That, right there limits the trade market on Cammy - his price tag. You would like to know you are acquiring a 30-35 goal scorer for that amount of $$$. He hasn't been that for three years. With the cap going down, no one will take on that contract for picks. JMO

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That, right there limits the trade market on Cammy - his price tag. You would like to know you are acquiring a 30-35 goal scorer for that amount of $$$. He hasn't been that for three years. With the cap going down, no one will take on that contract for picks. JMO
Yup. And it's not a Visnovsky situation where he makes a small salary and has a big cap hit either. He earns $7 million next season. That's a sizeable investment.

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That, right there limits the trade market on Cammy - his price tag. You would like to know you are acquiring a 30-35 goal scorer for that amount of $$$. He hasn't been that for three years. With the cap going down, no one will take on that contract for picks. JMO
Flames can retain some of his cap hit.

Cammalleri at $6M isn't going to get much as it stands. But Cammalleri at $4M? He'd get something good.

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Flames can retain some of his cap hit.

Cammalleri at $6M isn't going to get much as it stands. But Cammalleri at $4M? He'd get something good.
I see this thrown around a lot, but is it actually true? What's the value of $2 million? answer the question, I guess you kind of have to ask yourself what a team would give up to rid themselves of $2 million in dead weight (historically not very much) and add that to the return Cammy would net if Calgary ate nothing.

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I see this thrown around a lot, but is it actually true? What's the value of $2 million? answer the question, I guess you kind of have to ask yourself what a team would give up to rid themselves of $2 million in dead weight (historically not very much) and add that to the return Cammy would net if Calgary ate nothing.
I don't think of it that way at all.

I'd look instead at the trade value of the exact same player at a better contract. It could be the difference between a 2nd or a 1st for some.

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Bourque has better production, is bigger, goes to dirty areas, is cheaper, isn't soft...

I'm very satisfied with the trade right now.

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I don't think of it that way at all.

I'd look instead at the trade value of the exact same player at a better contract. It could be the difference between a 2nd or a 1st for some.
I don't know - $2 million is $2 million. I don't see why a team would pay more for a $2 million discount on a player under contract than they would to rid themselves of $2 million in dead weight.

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