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02-03-2013, 11:30 PM
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Count me as a Caps fan who thought that letting Semin go was a mistake. So was firing Boudreau and a litany of other terrible decision that McPhee has made.

Goaltending on this team is abysmal but the most glaring problem that I see so far this season is the lack of goal scoring. Put up 3 against this team and you've won yourself the game. It's like hunter hockey without any of the defense.

Of course you can't truly blame Oates yet because he's been handed a team that contains one pure goal scorer, two playmakers, seven glorified grinders and two nancy boy softies on offense. Hell, our defense has more goal scoring talent than our offense. That is a HUGE problem.

So yeah, letting Semin go was dumb. It wouldn't have solved all the problems if he were in Washington right now, but at least we'd have more than one option on offense.

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02-03-2013, 11:37 PM
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The caps didn't have defense and goaltending issues when we traded him. He is not a top goaltender now and he certainly wasn't one when we traded him.

The biggest reason he was traded was the fact he could go to Russia and he is injury prone.
I like how you completely ignored the statistics of Varlomov vs Holtby/Neuv. If anything, the Caps defense is better than the Avs as well.

Varlamov is the better goalie of the trio, I don't know how you can deny that.

You can argue the Varly for 1st and 2nd value and such, but having Varlamov would make the Caps a better team.

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02-03-2013, 11:56 PM
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I never said any of those things in the first part so stop making things up.
Make what up? Obvious observations easily backed by stats? One of us is making **** up and it ain't me.

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Nobody knows the exact system that Oates is teaching, but it obviously isn't run and gun.
Actually it's pretty obvious to most people what he's trying (and failing) to do.

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I don't think it is crazy to think that Ribeiro can be a consistent playmaker and we can only hope some of our other offensive threats such as Backstrom or Ovechkin step it up because it is bound to happen eventually imo.
It doesn't matter if he can be a consistent playmaker if he's playing with ****ing scrubs, small sample sizes notwithstanding.

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02-03-2013, 11:58 PM
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Count me as a Caps fan who thought that letting Semin go was a mistake. So was firing Boudreau and a litany of other terrible decision that McPhee has made.

Goaltending on this team is abysmal but the most glaring problem that I see so far this season is the lack of goal scoring. Put up 3 against this team and you've won yourself the game. It's like hunter hockey without any of the defense.

Of course you can't truly blame Oates yet because he's been handed a team that contains one pure goal scorer, two playmakers, seven glorified grinders and two nancy boy softies on offense. Hell, our defense has more goal scoring talent than our offense. That is a HUGE problem.

So yeah, letting Semin go was dumb. It wouldn't have solved all the problems if he were in Washington right now, but at least we'd have more than one option on offense.
Boudreau had to go. Whether he was a good coach or not is a different argument. Coaches have a shelf life, Boudreau's came to an end. There was simply nowhere to go with him when he was fired.

Not enticing Hunter back or grabbing Muller or Carbonneau was a bigger istake.

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02-04-2013, 12:00 AM
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Also the methodical culling of Russians is NOT sitting well with Ovechkin. I will bet everything red cent I have on it.

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02-04-2013, 03:06 AM
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As an unbiased observer, the caps problems don't seem to stem from their forward corps or their goaltending. IMO it's the D that needs some serious work. Mike Green is a great 2nd pairing PP specialist...but not a 1st pairing guy. Hamrlik is too old for serious work barring injuries, Carlson is good but too young for the role he's been put in, Schultz is too slow to be much use beyond a 7th Dman...etc.

So basically, the caps are probably somewhat remiss to letting semin go for nothing but he is not the solution to their current woes. Nor was he the author of their former woes.

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02-04-2013, 03:17 AM
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Problem with Washington is the defence, which cant move the puck aside from Green to save their life. It kills our offense which isnt even good, and on top of that they even suck defensively. Carlson has been horrible.

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02-04-2013, 03:28 AM
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Halak and Caps' and FO and coaching staff overreaction after running into a hot goalie is what killed the Caps.

But yes... Amazing how far they've fallen so fast.

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02-04-2013, 03:47 AM
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If Mike Green was Russian he would have been ran out of town years ago

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02-04-2013, 04:04 AM
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The problems start and end with Ovechkin. I personally think those were some average teams that he elevated to greatness.

It wasn't just the goals. He would set such a high pace when he was out there. He would totally get the defense back on their heels and the next line just had to maintain the momentum. They would come at you in waves and there wasn't a lot most teams could do to stop it.

He just doesn't seem to have that same impact on games any more. He might have some good shifts, but he doesn't change the entire complexion of the game like he used to.

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02-04-2013, 04:15 AM
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Caps are off to a bad start. Will McPhee do a panic trade? How panicked is he? Will he deal Ovechkin?

If I was a GM, I'd do almost any trade to acquire Ovechkin! Washington should get at least two players and some picks.

Vancouver could do a reasonable deal based around a goalie and a young defenseman. I very much suspect the goalie would be Schnieder, but this is just based on his contract. I think Tanev and Schneider with a couple of early picks is not an insulting offer.

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02-04-2013, 06:23 AM
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I think Tanev and Schneider with a couple of early picks is not an insulting offer.
No, this is insulting offer. Kesler + Edler + 1st is what you pay for a guy like Ovechkin. Even in this case they may ask Vancouver to add.

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02-04-2013, 06:36 AM
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No, this is insulting offer. Kesler + Edler + 1st is what you pay for a guy like Ovechkin. Even in this case they may ask Vancouver to add.
Hmm whats the going rate for 9.5M players who score 30 goals?

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02-04-2013, 08:12 AM
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I like the Caps and if I was one of their fans I would be more mad about letting Varlamov go than Semin IMO.
Letting Varlamov go? I think you mean Varlamov forcing his way out of town. He was demanding the #1 job without earning, and a contract to go with it. If he didn't get that, he was going to play in the KHL for Lokomotiv Yaroslavl. So McPhee traded him for an excellent return.

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They need fat Boudreau big, without fat Boudreau, man...they just ain't the same. The problems have all started as soon as fat Boudreau was rolled outta town!

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02-04-2013, 08:14 AM
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I like the Caps and if I was one of their fans I would be more mad about letting Varlamov go than Semin IMO.
for filip forsberg....not mad at all

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02-04-2013, 08:23 AM
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Caps suck so bad that one player will not help them

Semin > ov tho

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02-04-2013, 08:24 AM
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Also the methodical culling of Russians is NOT sitting well with Ovechkin. I will bet everything red cent I have on it.
So what? What's he going to do? Cry? Tank it? Lol he sucks and is a horrible captain. Caps would be better off without him

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02-04-2013, 08:32 AM
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Fire McPhee
Best move going forward to the Caps.

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02-04-2013, 09:12 AM
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The caps biggest problem is McPhee failing to realize when to make a trade for a quality player. He always seems to value his current players and prospects way to high. I can't remember a single trade where he traded a good player to make his team better overall or where he took a bit of a risk to put the caps over the top.

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I like the Caps and if I was one of their fans I would be more mad about letting Varlamov go than Semin IMO.
Not for that draft pick, Forsberg might be Semin's replacement as soon as next season.

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02-04-2013, 09:26 AM
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How does Washington's prospect pool look in terms of offensive forwards?

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I don't know how it all went down but either everyone came down on Boudreau for his pure offensive system or he came down on himself to try to emulate other teams formulas of success, and now the new coaches are doing the same thing. Really I don't get why'd you want to turn the team with the most pure offensive talent in the league into the Kings or the Bruins without the right players. This would be like the blues trying to turn Backes into Ovechkin.

Seriously, they went from years of trying to reach the cup finals, now to back to back years of fighting for the 8th seed.

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02-04-2013, 10:14 AM
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I've never liked George Mcphee, seems like a terrible GM and in any behind the draft shows and 24/7 he seems like a used car salesman combined with unlimited job security. I always wonder what Caps fans think of the guy because with the core he had the results should've been and should still be much better.
I always laugh at George McPhee when he drafted Nolan Yonkman with the #37 pick in 1999. He was interviewed after the draft and said "He has all the tools, he just needs to learn to play the game a little bit"

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02-04-2013, 10:16 AM
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Last time I checked Semin was a free agent any team could have signed him.
Parise and suter are better players
Unlike the above the Washington caps had no interest
I doubt that is true. I look at that seven million and wondering what he wants going forward.
I've always like Semin but at 7 million?
Now any team could have gotten Cory conacher, brunner, or st louis yet we cry about Semin
I'm sure the Jets would love kovalchuk and the send could use chara

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