Value of: Mike Green

[Gabotrick]

I know last year was an awful year for him and with the Capitals decline over the past couple of years could they end up being sellers this year. What would the Capitals want for him?

[Remember2004]

Calgary offers Cammalleri straight up?

[MJMazzarone]

His value I think would be so hard to decide because to me he has become the defensive version of Cheechoo. I really expect a fall from grace for Green. This may sound insane right now but his production has only gotten worse and worse. What's more? Washington would want a lot for him because he is still considered a top defenseman by many. At least until more proof that a "fall from grace" will happen.

I would sell high on Green. As high as possible because unless he can rebound from these awful years...I can see him only regressing.

[fedfed]

Green improved defensively a lot. He's no more a defensive liability. I don't have heart attacks each time he gets the puck in a D-zone.

[DCRedhawk21]

No idea why everyone is getting down on Green now. As someone who has actually watched the Caps games this year... he has been by FAR (and I mean it isn't even close) the teams best defenseman on both sides of the ice this year. He was also their strongest D-man in the playoffs last year.

You want to know whose been absolutely awful this year? Carlson. Green is the furthest thing from a problem on the Capitals. But yes, he's totally the one who has "fallen from grace" and the player the Caps should get rid of.

[txpd]

green wouldnt be for sale if the caps sell. hes signed. he's leading them in minutes. he's now playing shutdown with karl alzner and producing offensively. with all the goals the caps have allowed this season, only 3 have come with green on the ice.

i cant imagine the caps trading him.
yea....and carlson. after being on for 3 goals against today, he is up to being on the ice for 19 goals against in 9 games. scary

[MJMazzarone]

Originally Posted by DCRedhawk21

No idea why everyone is getting down on Green now. As someone who has actually watched the Caps games this year... he has been by FAR (and I mean it isn't even close) the teams best defenseman on both sides of the ice this year. He was also their strongest D-man in the playoffs last year.

You want to know whose been absolutely awful this year? Carlson. Green is the furthest thing from a problem on the Capitals. But yes, he's totally the one who has "fallen from grace" and the player the Caps should get rid of.

Mike Green is far from an offensive threat. I don't know how anyone can say that he isn't overrated. I've watched him play too. What if he gets another injury then what happens? Back to last year. He almost went down a few games ago when the Caps took on the Devils.

His production has gone down year by year. All I'm saying is I don't think Green is as great as everyone makes him out to be.

[rubynj]

Green is the caps MVP so far this season. Once the players get comfortable in Oates system he will be even better.

He's not as nasty to play against but he's still every bit as good as Letang. IMO if the two switched teams Greens numbers would look like his Norris candidate days on that powerplay.

Love the only on for three goals stat. Please get better Carlson.

[rubynj]

Originally Posted by MJMazzarone

Mike Green is far from an offensive threat. I don't know how anyone can say that he isn't overrated. I've watched him play too. What if he gets another injury then what happens? Back to last year. He almost went down a few games ago when the Caps took on the Devils.

His production has gone down year by year. All I'm saying is I don't think Green is as great as everyone makes him out to be.

Injuries can happen to anyone. Look at the goal he had today. Letang destroys him..Green gets back up,finds a soft spot and hits a one timer top shelf. I'd say he displayed toughness and to be an offensive threat on just one shift this afternoon.

[CobraAcesS]

Yeah I can honestly say IF Green was on the block he would be a perfect fit for what Colorado is looking for to pair with EJ. However I don't think hes on the block as his value has dropped quite a bit.

It's a little like Stastny for Colorado, you're not going to get a huge return but Green is too valuable to let go for less because of his perceived fall from grace.

Would love to add him and I think Colorado would have to give up their first round pick again plus a roster player and a strong prospect, and that's not going to happen.

[FlyingHigh28*]

Originally Posted by rubynj

Injuries can happen to anyone. Look at the goal he had today. Letang destroys him..Green gets back up,finds a soft spot and hits a one timer top shelf. I'd say he displayed toughness and to be an offensive threat on just one shift this afternoon.

Not everyone has chronic groin issues that have caused them to miss over half the regular season games of the last 2 seasons though.

And while Mike Green might have improved defensively and might not even be considered a liability anymore, that doesn't mean he's a good defender. He's mediocre at best. At 1 point per 2 games, he's easily overpaid. At 1 point per 3 games (which is what he was at last playoffs), he's really overpaid. At 1 point per 4.5 games, which is what he was last regular season, he belongs on waivers.

Obviously you've got to give him some time to get back into the swing of things after returning from injury, etc. which is why right now I think it's best that he stay w/ the Caps. Can't see any team wanting to take the risk that he stays healthy and returns to form in regard to scoring points at his current cap hit. And if a team did take that risk, they'd expect to get him for well less than Caps fans are prepared to take.

Personally, I'm still skeptical of Green. I've watched several Caps games this regular season and last regular season and all of the playoff games last year and he hasn't even come close to impressing me the way he did in 08-09 and 09-10. And I while I see he's clearly better defensively, I still consider him below average to average, and that doesn't cut it for a 1st pairing defender getting that kind of dough unless he's putting up massive pts.

But what do I know? Maybe I'll look dumb in a few months if Green picks it up offensively

[rubynj]

Originally Posted by FlyingHigh28

Not everyone has chronic groin issues that have caused them to miss over half the regular season games of the last 2 seasons though.

And while Mike Green might have improved defensively and might not even be considered a liability anymore, that doesn't mean he's a good defender. He's mediocre at best. At 1 point per 2 games, he's easily overpaid. At 1 point per 3 games (which is what he was at last playoffs), he's really overpaid. At 1 point per 4.5 games, which is what he was last regular season, he belongs on waivers.

Obviously you've got to give him some time to get back into the swing of things after returning from injury, etc. which is why right now I think it's best that he stay w/ the Caps. Can't see any team wanting to take the risk that he stays healthy and returns to form in regard to scoring points at his current cap hit. And if a team did take that risk, they'd expect to get him for well less than Caps fans are prepared to take.

Personally, I'm still skeptical of Green. I've watched several Caps games this regular season and last regular season and all of the playoff games last year and he hasn't even come close to impressing me the way he did in 08-09 and 09-10. And I while I see he's clearly better defensively, I still consider him below average to average, and that doesn't cut it for a 1st pairing defender getting that kind of dough unless he's putting up massive pts.

But what do I know? Maybe I'll look dumb in a few months if Green picks it up offensively

He had ONE groin injury. A concussion kept him out the other time.

You may have him confused with Tom Poti. He had groin problems missing nearly three seasons.

He is a top minute eater on a team that had up until recently been a legit contender. His points go as the caps as a team go,which I find true with most any pmd.

The caps have no offense and he's the best player they have right now. Looking better by the game as well. Once they figure out that power play in DC he will produce even more.

[FlyingHigh28*]

Originally Posted by rubynj

He had ONE groin injury. A concussion kept him out the other time.

You may have him confused with Tom Poti. He had groin problems missing nearly three seasons.

He is a top minute eater on a team that had up until recently been a legit contender. His points go as the caps as a team go,which I find true with most any pmd.

The caps have no offense and he's the best player they have right now. Looking better by the game as well. Once they figure out that power play in DC he will produce even more.

Like I said, I guess we'll see. As far as the injury goes, Mike Green himself described his groin issue as "chronic" and "something I'll have to deal with for the rest of my life" in separate interviews. I can't tell you if or how much it bothers him when he goes out and plays, but the time he's missed and the use of the word "chronic" give me pause when I see that giant cap hit. And rightfully so.

If Green puts together a good full healthy (lockout shortened) season and Carlson comes around, the summer might be a good time to sell high on him when teams are desperately looking for the elite PMD that simply isn't there in this free-agent class. Right now, it's just to big of a risk to get good value.

[Mystlyfe]

People who buy the hype that Green is a poor defensive player amuse me.

[Captain Smurf]

Originally Posted by Mystlyfe

People who buy the hype that Green is a poor defensive player amuse me.

He was when he focused exclusively on offense. He's done a good job rounding out his game though.