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02-03-2013, 05:14 PM
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I see Vasilyev has played 5 games in the KHL now. does anyone have an update? how he's looked if he went back to the MHL etc.

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Laughton had a goal and 2 assists today.

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I see Vasilyev has played 5 games in the KHL now. does anyone have an update? how he's looked if he went back to the MHL etc.
I don't know much and haven't watched him play, but I see he's in the lineup getting around 14 - 15 mins per "night".

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02-03-2013, 08:35 PM
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I don't know much and haven't watched him play, but I see he's in the lineup getting around 14 - 15 mins per "night".
Thanks. That's pretty good for an 18 yo in a quality league.

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02-03-2013, 08:39 PM
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Thanks. That's pretty good for an 18 yo in a quality league.
I know there were rumors he was trying come over and play in the USHL this year. At least it shows he has interest playing in North America.

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02-03-2013, 09:49 PM
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I know there were rumors he was trying come over and play in the USHL this year. At least it shows he has interest playing in North America.
Well, I don't think there are many Russian players that don't, but they obviously don't want to go to lesser leagues if they can play in the KHL instead. But few would probably refuse the NHL given the right offer.

Oh, and by the way, Vasilyev is not the only Flyer on Spartak's roster, it seems Denis Bodrov is also playing there. What's up with that? How does he still have a contract?

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02-03-2013, 09:49 PM
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Flyers don't have his contract anymore (at least not on CapGeek).

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02-03-2013, 09:53 PM
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Ah, alright, he was listed as a Flyer on NHL.com, and I figured they'd keep their stats up-to-date. I guess not then.

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02-03-2013, 10:18 PM
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Well, I don't think there are many Russian players that don't, but they obviously don't want to go to lesser leagues if they can play in the KHL instead. But few would probably refuse the NHL given the right offer.

Oh, and by the way, Vasilyev is not the only Flyer on Spartak's roster, it seems Denis Bodrov is also playing there. What's up with that? How does he still have a contract?
I know but with Russians you always have to be a little cautious. Those teams do the craziest stuff to try to keep some of those guys.

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02-03-2013, 11:43 PM
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I don't think its a good idea to send him back to the OHL as an overager just because the original plan was for him to play 3-4 years before turning pro.
I'll defer to those that have watched Stollie more than I, but I think a lot depends on where we can get him playing time. Clearly, he'll be the starter in London next year if he stays, but we'd likely need to clear out the AHL for him and let him start a bunch of games for a team we can all surmise is likely to be among the leagues worst next season.

The Phantoms may gain Cousins or perhaps Laughton (unless one or both can make the Flyers), but that's about it. Not sure a goalie on that team next year is a tremendous way to develop him for the long run.

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I wouldn't be opposed to Gostisbehere playing another year at Union, but I also wouldn't want to risk him stagnating playing in the ECAC for another year. You never want to rush guys, but at the same time you have to challenge them.
I think the Flyers will want Ghost to make a move after this season, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him stay in college another year or even two. To me, his game would probably benefit the most from an NHL or AHL weight room and training regiment. He needs to get stronger to sustain his play in the NHL with a smaller body style.

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02-04-2013, 06:29 AM
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I'll defer to those that have watched Stollie more than I, but I think a lot depends on where we can get him playing time. Clearly, he'll be the starter in London next year if he stays, but we'd likely need to clear out the AHL for him and let him start a bunch of games for a team we can all surmise is likely to be among the leagues worst next season.

The Phantoms may gain Cousins or perhaps Laughton (unless one or both can make the Flyers), but that's about it. Not sure a goalie on that team next year is a tremendous way to develop him for the long run.



I think the Flyers will want Ghost to make a move after this season, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him stay in college another year or even two. To me, his game would probably benefit the most from an NHL or AHL weight room and training regiment. He needs to get stronger to sustain his play in the NHL with a smaller body style.
Let's be honest, there's no goalie currently in our system that should take precedent over Stolarz.

As for Gostisbehere, I agree he would benefit from an ahl schedule where they pretty much just play on the weekends. That would allow him to work out during the week and recover. The college schedule between games, practices, class, and NCAA restrictions isn't the ideal scenario for a guy like him.

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Gostisbehere will turn 20 in a couple months and another year in college would put him at 21. I think that would be a good age to get some AHL action. If it were up to me that's how it would go down but then again I don't know anything about developing prospects.

And as far as stollie goes I think him staying as an overager wouldn't be terrible at all for his development as the knights have a great staff. With that said the flyers would have plenty of room for him if they wanted to get him AHL action. Besides Heeter the flyers don't have anyone that could play at that level. But knowing the flyers they'll go out and sign a Scott Munroe or Leighton again and force Stollie to the ECHL or something. Only time will tell

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02-04-2013, 08:54 AM
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Gostisbehere will turn 20 in a couple months and another year in college would put him at 21. I think that would be a good age to get some AHL action. If it were up to me that's how it would go down but then again I don't know anything about developing prospects.

And as far as stollie goes I think him staying as an overager wouldn't be terrible at all for his development as the knights have a great staff. With that said the flyers would have plenty of room for him if they wanted to get him AHL action. Besides Heeter the flyers don't have anyone that could play at that level. But knowing the flyers they'll go out and sign a Scott Munroe or Leighton again and force Stollie to the ECHL or something. Only time will tell
neither do the Flyers

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For those who follow Adirondack, how is Oliver Lauridsen's game?
He had an awesome +/- statistics (compared to the rest of the team) that has gone down a lot lately (from +8 to +2 - up again to +3).

Since he is busy playing for you, we are without him on the danish national team for the Olympic Qual. I was wondering if you see him as a career AHL players, or he has what it takes to be a stay-out-home defender for the Flyers in the future?
For instance is his scating improving?
This is from Bill Meltzer's HockeyBuzz column (February 4):

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4) Oliver Lauridsen: The big Dane has been evolving into an AHL version of Nick Grossmann or Luke Schenn. He doesn't have Grossmann's positional awareness or bull-like strength to retrieve pucks and have NHL-caliber forecheckers bounce off his shoulders or backside. He also lacks Schenn's underrated first-past ability. However, Lauridsen is good at boxing out, blocking shots and, like Schenn, will drop the gloves. His skating is adequate for a big man in the AHL but suspect for a potential NHL candidate. Unfortunately for Lauridsen, he is very much a "niche" prospect and there are two better (and still relatively young) players on the NHL club who perform the same duties.

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This is from Bill Meltzer's HockeyBuzz column (February 4):

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So it looks like AHL, unless he continues to improve or find a club in much need of a big d-man!

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Its interesting to see Rob Bordson on that list. He seems to be the prospect that just doesn't go away. First he was dealt and I thought that would be the end of him. Then once he was reaquired, I thought he would finish the season out and move on. Then they resigned him to what I assumed in a lockout year would end up being a ECHL role. But then he made the team ahead of a few guys we assumed he wouldn't beat out. You can't say he is a quitter.

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Marc-Andre Bourdon's status (February 4-5):

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Additionally, Murray addressed Marc-Andre Bourdon's status. The defenseman is officially on Flyers injured reserve, but has still been seen around the Glens Falls Civic Center.

Bourdon saw a concussion specialist, Ted Carrick, in Atlanta. Carrick is the same doctor who treated Flyers forward Claude Giroux and Pittsburgh Penguins forward Sidney Crosby. Bourdon skated under medical supervision while seeing Carrick but has not been on the ice otherwise, Murray said.

There is no timetable for Bourdon's return.
Also, Gustafsson is mentioned earlier in the article but he is on the ice with the Phantoms today (Feb. 5).

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So it looks like AHL, unless he continues to improve or find a club in much need of a big d-man!
hes not really a traditional big man. doesnt have that snarl to his game at least, though he can use his size. i wish there was a way we could send him to europe on some kinda training assignment. the bigger surface would really push him to work on his skating and angles of attack. given a year or so to just work on that i think hed be in better shape to make an nhl roster.

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Also, Gustafsson is mentioned earlier in the article but he is on the ice with the Phantoms today (Feb. 5).
As much as I want Gus to play, I'd say only bring him up when we start losing again. We just won two games straight, one especially against a tough as hell team. Don't mess with the chemistry when you're winning.

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As much as I want Gus to play, I'd say only bring him up when we start losing again. We just won two games straight, one especially against a tough as hell team. Don't mess with the chemistry when you're winning.
I don't think Gustafsson replacing Foster or Gervais would mess with the chemistry too much.

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I don't think Gustafsson replacing Foster or Gervais would mess with the chemistry too much.
Gervais's been pretty good this year I think. That goal last night aside.

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Gervais's been pretty good this year I think. That goal last night aside.
Foster on the other hand is brutal. All he has is a big shot.

For a guy his size he is so soft in puck battles along the wall.

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Foster on the other hand is brutal. All he has is a big shot.

For a guy his size he is so soft in puck battles along the wall.
On paper Gus would complement Grossmann well on the 3rd pairing. One fast skating PMD paired with a stay at home bruiser.

Gervais has been a pleasant surprise so far - he looks like a #5 and claims a big share of the minutes that Mesz would normally play.


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On paper Gus would complement Grossmann well on the 3rd pairing. One fast skating PMD paired with a stay at home bruiser.
I wonder how much of Gus at the AHL level has to do with him learning a bit more defensively from Murray. Not saying that justifies keep him down there, but it could have meaning.

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I wonder how much of Gus at the AHL level has to do with him learning a bit more defensively from Murray. Not saying that justifies keep him down there, but it could have meaning.
Plus he was injured so it's good for him to get back into the rhythm

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