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02-04-2013, 12:08 AM
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Different Reffing Standards for Playoffs vs Regular Season?

I was watching the superbowl today and there was a blatent pass-interference on the 49ers in the endzone that the refs didn't call, which arguably cost them the win.

In hockey, it would be the equivalent to game 7 in the playoffs where a player is hauled down on a breakaway but the refs looking the other way.

The interesting thing is the announcer said that it would have been called in the regular season but there are different standards for calls in the playoffs.

Do you think this is true for the NHL as well or not?



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I think it's no secret that the playoffs are almost always reffed differently.

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The playoffs are called more loosely. You can get away with more.

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02-04-2013, 12:34 AM
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Give me a break, that was about 1/3 offensive PI, 1/3 defensive PI and 1/3 no PI at all. Best thing to do is keep that flag in your pocket on that play, it was totally even.

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02-04-2013, 12:37 AM
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As far as I've seen the change in NFL officiating is nowhere NEAR the change in NHL officiating.

Playoff NHL hockey is literally a different game, and not really in a good way. Skill tends to get negated by a looser call standard.

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I don't think there's a different standard in how things are called in the POs as much as it is that more non-calls are scrutinized. I don't watch football at all so I can't comment on the NFL but when it comes to the NHL 90% of the time the officiating looks almost identical from POs to regular season, it's just that PO officiating is under a microscope.

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I think it's no secret that the playoffs are almost always reffed differently.
And, based on this regular season in particular, here's hoping that trend continues.

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Yes that was sad, I couldn't believe they didn't call a penalty. #SMH

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And, based on this regular season in particular, here's hoping that trend continues.
Isn't that the truth.

The amount of debate, disagreement, and venom spewed between fan bases on HF is always something to behold. We rarely agree on anything.

So when we all find common ground, you know something has to be clear as a bell and undeniably true. NHL reffing so far this season has been poor, baffling, indecipherable, inconsistent......pick your favorite.

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02-04-2013, 10:32 AM
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Well, at least statistically, there is no difference in PP opportunities in the playoffs compared to the regular season.

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Well, at least statistically, there is no difference in PP opportunities in the playoffs compared to the regular season.
I would argue that most players ride the line of holding/slashing ect in terms of whether what they're doing is a penalty or not. If the refs let more go, players will commit worse infractions thinking they can get away with it. Just my opinion though

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NFL doesn't want their league to look silly by having the refs throwing a bunch of flags during the Superbowl. If I'm not mistaken, Belichick took advantage of this one year and the Patriots were committing little penalties like holding all game long without getting called for it.

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I was watching the superbowl today and there was a blatent pass-interference on the 49ers in the endzone that the refs didn't call, which arguably cost them the win.

In hockey, it would be the equivalent to game 7 in the playoffs where a player is hauled down on a breakaway but the refs looking the other way.

The interesting thing is the announcer said that it would have been called in the regular season but there are different standards for calls in the playoffs.

Do you think this is true for the NHL as well or not?


IT was not a "blatant" pass interference call.

I'm a football fan first, hockey fan 1A. I had zero rooting interest in the game because my team was not playing and neither team is a rival of my team and I had no money on the game.

Jimmy Smith made contact in the 5 yard "allowable" zone. Then the corner (Jimmy Smith) and receiver (Michael Crabtree) hand fight. Yes, Jimmy Smith did have an arm wrapped around Crabtree's waste BUT Michael Crabtree is CLEARLY pushing off (which is offensive pass interference).

You could have thrown a flag on Crabtree for pass interference.

You could have thrown a flag on Jimmy Smith for defensive holding.

The correct call would have been offsetting penalties and replay 4th down.

It was a good no call.

On topic: The officiating has always changed in the playoffs. It's been that way since the dawn of time.

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I was watching the superbowl today and there was a blatent pass-interference on the 49ers in the endzone that the refs didn't call, which arguably cost them the win.

where's the thread for Akers blatant dive to draw a roughing the kicker penalty? He was not touched - he just fell on the Raven player that was at his feet.

Now THAT was a total dive. ... and it got the 49ers 3 points on their 2nd attempt.

End zone play? like ut said, it was a good non-call.

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IT was not a "blatant" pass interference call.

I'm a football fan first, hockey fan 1A. I had zero rooting interest in the game because my team was not playing and neither team is a rival of my team and I had no money on the game.

Jimmy Smith made contact in the 5 yard "allowable" zone. Then the corner (Jimmy Smith) and receiver (Michael Crabtree) hand fight. Yes, Jimmy Smith did have an arm wrapped around Crabtree's waste BUT Michael Crabtree is CLEARLY pushing off (which is offensive pass interference).

You could have thrown a flag on Crabtree for pass interference.

You could have thrown a flag on Jimmy Smith for defensive holding.

The correct call would have been offsetting penalties and replay 4th down.

It was a good no call.

On topic: The officiating has always changed in the playoffs. It's been that way since the dawn of time.
He wasn't pushing off he was struggling to break from a hold...

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He wasn't pushing off he was struggling to break from a hold...
Yeah there's a big difference there. That's not pushing off.

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IT was not a "blatant" pass interference call.

I'm a football fan first, hockey fan 1A. I had zero rooting interest in the game because my team was not playing and neither team is a rival of my team and I had no money on the game.

Jimmy Smith made contact in the 5 yard "allowable" zone. Then the corner (Jimmy Smith) and receiver (Michael Crabtree) hand fight. Yes, Jimmy Smith did have an arm wrapped around Crabtree's waste BUT Michael Crabtree is CLEARLY pushing off (which is offensive pass interference).

You could have thrown a flag on Crabtree for pass interference.

You could have thrown a flag on Jimmy Smith for defensive holding.

The correct call would have been offsetting penalties and replay 4th down.

It was a good no call.

On topic: The officiating has always changed in the playoffs. It's been that way since the dawn of time.
He still had his arms around Crabtree 3 yards deep in the endzone. The play started on the 5yd line, so yes blatant hold. Any push off by Crabtree was just to free himself from the holding.

But blame the play calling.

First and goal on the 7, with Frank Gore and Collin Kaepernick in the backfield and you call 3 pass plays. It's inconceivable that Frank Gore wouldn't get 7 yards on 4 trys.

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Look no further than the 2010 season/playoffs. It was called very tight that year, even into the first round or two of the playoffs. But by the time the Bruins and Canucks met in the Finals, it was prison rules.

Obviously the same in football, that was a pretty blatant pass interference call, but when the stakes get high, it's hard for a ref to pull out his flag.

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He still had his arms around Crabtree 3 yards deep in the endzone. The play started on the 5yd line, so yes blatant hold. Any push off by Crabtree was just to free himself from the holding.
But blame the play calling.

First and goal on the 7, with Frank Gore and Collin Kaepernick in the backfield and you call 3 pass plays. It's inconceivable that Frank Gore wouldn't get 7 yards on 4 trys.
Exactly.....totally blown call. And no....I have no horse in this race. My Bronco's crapped the bed.

Terrible no-call.

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