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02-04-2013, 12:12 PM
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We did it with Cole, we did it with Prust... let's do it with Clowe
Clowe would certainly be a great addition to the team.
But who would you take out of the top9? Eller?

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02-04-2013, 12:16 PM
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Taking Eller out of the line-up for this game would be a mistake, in my opinion. He has played very well against the Bruins in the past.

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02-04-2013, 12:17 PM
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Clowe would certainly be a great addition to the team.
But who would you take out of the top9? Eller?
Clowe is another older guy. The top 9 is already crowded that we can bare fit Eller in there. Unless one of Gio, Cole or Bourque gets moved, there isn't much room for Clowe to play here. Also having these 4 vets on the wings blocks upward mobility of any other prospect who can make the team.

Habs should focus more on diversifying their blueline next season. Any money spent on a forward should be for a game changer.

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02-04-2013, 12:17 PM
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At some point there has to be a line drawn in the sand and the Habs say enough. Buffalo brought in John Scott to do that and after he took care of Thornton you could tell the Bruins were intimidated. Now we've got Prust, Moen, White, and Bouillon and that's not bad... But I'd like a designated tough guy ala Steve MacIntyre, that will take care of business. Even a Ryane Clowe type would be a big help.

Either way this could be a statement game and I look forward to seeing how the Habs play and respond to the Bruins.
No we don't. Unless the tough guy can play its a waste of a spot. Remember Laraque? He was a great tough guy but no one would fight him. Scott is useless outside of fighting. He tried to fight Prust on Saturday and got ignored.

The fact is that no one has to fight and unless you can help the team in other ways you shouldn't be on the team.

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02-04-2013, 12:19 PM
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We did it with Cole, we did it with Prust... let's do it with Clowe
Not only that, but they came here when the team was nowhere being competitive. With the change in management, and if we can have a successful year, it will be easier to attract UFA's.

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You're just making things up.
Nope, just expressing my opinion. Unlike others I don't try to pass it off as fact.

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Are actually referring to Eller as one of 11, 12, or 13th forward ?
At this point in time? Absolutely. Does he have great potential to be more? Absolutely.

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02-04-2013, 12:22 PM
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Nope, just expressing my opinion. Unlike others I don't try to pass it off as fact.
Why would Eller, who's never had trouble in past against the bruins, who over the last two years has had his share of tough matchups and has been more that good in defensive responsibilities, all of a sudden not be able to matchup against Campbell?

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The most "intimidating" Bruin is Marchand, and that's because he doesn't mind taking out people's limbs with cheapshots, not because he's a righter. Outside of him, Chara, Lucic, and Thornton, there is not one Bruin this team should be afraid of.

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02-04-2013, 12:24 PM
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I would, Armstrong hasn't done much so far this year but he is a favorite of Therrien so doubt he makes that switch
White has to prove he isn't a liability, much less an important player.

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02-04-2013, 12:25 PM
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Clowe is another older guy. The top 9 is already crowded that we can bare fit Eller in there. Unless one of Gio, Cole or Bourque gets moved, there isn't much room for Clowe to play here. Also having these 4 vets on the wings blocks upward mobility of any other prospect who can make the team.

Habs should focus more on diversifying their blueline next season. Any money spent on a forward should be for a game changer.
First of all, Clowe is 30. It's not what I would consider an "older guy". He's a veteran.

Then, Cole has already expressed his intentions of considering retirement this summer. Gionta's time is coming to an end to, wouldn't be surprised to see him getting moved this summer, as his game doesn't fit a team using a 2-men forecheck. He's basically useless on the forecheck and his chances/goals come off a rush more often than not.

Let's not kid ourselves. After Gally and Chucky, there's not much coming from the farm in the immediate future. Bournival, Bozon, Collberg, etc. are all 2 years away. I'd actually entertain moving Eller or another player to make some room to a guy like Clowe. He fits this team's identity perfectly.

Gallagher - Galchenyuk - Clowe
Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Bourque - Plekanec - Gionta
Prust - Dumont/White - Moen

Now that would be an interesting lineup to look at. Great depth, an overall great mix between grit and talent. As for Eller, well if he's in your plan switch him and Desharnais or any other player. But that's a great lineup in my mind. Especially with a guy like Gionta going out after next season.

I know it's obviously not the case, but if I were GM, Gionta would be the guy going out. Very good player, very good leader and a warrior out there, but his play just doesn't fit our identity, based on hard pressure and heavy forecheck.


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Galchenyuk with his first NHL hat-trick, becoming a Bruins killer for years.

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Galchenyuk with his first NHL hat-trick, becoming a Bruins killer for years.
This would be a dream come true.

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02-04-2013, 12:30 PM
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I know its the battle for the division lead. But couldn't it be also the match for the conference lead?!
The lead wouldn't last. The Habs won't lead the division or the conference after 48 games. However, they might win a round or two in the playoffs, which would be more significant.

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02-04-2013, 12:30 PM
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Why would Eller, who's never had trouble in past against the bruins, who over the last two years has had his share of tough matchups and has been more that good in defensive responsibilities, all of a sudden not be able to matchup against Campbell?
I agree Eller is good in defensive zone coverage, but I see him having trouble with Campbell's speed and physicality off the face-offs. That's why I said I agreed with the option of having him play wing.

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02-04-2013, 12:33 PM
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That's my thinking. Army has been a pretty weak link and Montreal could use White's feisty play against Boston. Still, penalties could kill Montreal against a team like Boston. I still think you through in White, he's had some time to think on his bad penalties and he's the kind of guy that can get under the Bruins' skin.
White is far from a rookie but he's still in a remedial class. I'd say he's incorrigible.

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02-04-2013, 12:36 PM
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Whitey makes me LOL when he plays against the Bruins. He annoys them (almost as much as Lappy's stupid grin did) and can back it up with his fists.

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At this point in time? Absolutely. Does he have great potential to be more? Absolutely.
This point in time ? Or selectively after his first three poor games, but
before his last two much stronger games? Because using only three games,
while ignoring all the games before, like last year, and the games after,like the
last two, in an unusual way to judge a player.

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This is when the habs come crashing back to earth after a humbling loss to the Bruins after we get beat up on the scoreboard and on the ice.
It was nice while it lasted.

Boston 7, Montreal 0 with 2 Montreal top 6 players on IR after the game.
You're experiencing a nightmare. Time to wake up.

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02-04-2013, 12:39 PM
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Whitey makes me LOL when he plays against the Bruins. He annoys them (almost as much as Lappy's stupid grin did) and can back it up with his fists.
You gotta like players like White. He just got to control his emotions. In the long run though, I see him being replaced by a real faceoffs specialist. Would be great if we could develop Gab Dumont into one. This aspect of his game looks great from what I saw this fall.

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I expect White to be in and Eller to sit. Tough luck for Eller, but that's the reality of a team with actual depth.
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Depth is not some catch-all excuse to sit good players for inferior ones.
I agree with Knuckles30: against a team like Boston, White brings a more valuable 4th line contribution than Eller.

Depth does imply sending a good player in the press box.

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I agree with Knuckles30: against a team like Boston, White brings a more valuable 4th line contribution than Eller.

Depth does imply sending a good player in the press box.
You can have both though. Seriously.

This board is usually so quick to jump on players, why is Armstrong being given a free pass so far? Has he brought anything to the lineup yet that people would consider "irreplaceable"? Why turn this into White vs. Eller when it doesn't need to be?

Get Armdog and his zeroes-across-the-board out, keep Eller's skill, keep White's toughness. Easy.

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02-04-2013, 12:46 PM
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I agree with Knuckles30: against a team like Boston, White brings a more valuable 4th line contribution than Eller.

Depth does imply sending a good player in the press box.
Only if all the players in the lineup are as good or better. Armstrong has been bad and I wouldn't put White in the lineup anyway against the Bruins. The habs have been playing extremely well and haven't missed White at all in their wins.

Plus, who cares, Thornton is injured and I believe Marchand is questionable. Focus on playing hockey.

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This point in time ? Or selectively after his first three poor games, but
before his last two much stronger games? Because using only three games,
while ignoring all the games before, like last year, and the games after,like the
last two, in an unusual way to judge a player.
At this point in time. In that he is not currently a member of the top 3 lines, which takes up 9 forward positions. I counted Moen as the 10th. Not sure why this is hard to understand.

To give a parallel, Tinordi may well be a HUGE part of the future of the Habs' defense. He is currently about 8th-10th on the depth chart.

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02-04-2013, 12:48 PM
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Whitey makes me LOL when he plays against the Bruins. He annoys them (almost as much as Lappy's stupid grin did) and can back it up with his fists.
id like to see Therrien swap Armstrong with White for the Bruins game.

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