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02-04-2013, 01:28 PM
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To be fair, Rupp averaged about 6 minutes/game with the NYR - not a lot you can do with minutes like that. He's got an upside and his hands aren't terrible considering the role that he plays. Universally considered to be a good "room" guy.

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02-04-2013, 01:32 PM
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Sounds like a contract move. Rupp doesn't add anything that Kenopka or Kassian don't already bring.

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Honestly Palmieri's antics make me think he was a prima donna that thought his value and ability was above where it's actually at. I'm ok with getting rid of him. I don't see him as anything other than a career AHL'er.

The thing about Rupp I get, he's big and gritty.

The thing I don't get about this trade is, they want to be able to roll 4 lines right? So, we have Heater who yes, is obviously slow. Something Wild fans can't seem to ever make a post about him without mentioning. But by all accounts, Ranger fans say Rupp is borderline pylon as well. Doesn't seem like they're sticking to the uptempo/fast mantra with this move.
I think they are more looking to roll 3 lines that have the ability to score and then one line that just basically kicks people's ass.

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I'm fine with this considering we have enough PKers and I doubt Palmieri is much more than an AHL tweener. It sounds like Rupp is an upgrade in size & physicality, though he's slower than Powe. I guess the extra contract spot is nice.

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Sounds like a contract move. Rupp doesn't add anything that Kenopka or Kassian don't already bring.
Other than 6'5" veteran with SCF experience. I don't think it's a brilliant move but I don't see how it hurts us.

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02-04-2013, 01:37 PM
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Wow. Didn't expect this, especially after we traded a 3rd for Powe.

We really should've gotten more back, like a late pick or something. Otherwise, adding Palmieri didn't really make sense.

I guess some veteran leadership, size and grit is never a bad thing, plus Rupp - Konopka - Mitchell should be a real pain to play against... Hmmh. Still don't see him as an upgrade over Powe, at least not an upgrade worth a promising young player like Palmieri.

But as others have said, there's got to be more to this.

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02-04-2013, 01:37 PM
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I think they are more looking to roll 3 lines that have the ability to score and then one line that just basically kicks people's ass.
Yeah, but that was tried already with Boogaard, Simon and Fedoruk. To pretty awful results really.

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02-04-2013, 01:38 PM
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Meh.

Rather have Powe simply because he can play center. I'm not sure Rupp is a center.

Stupid move but something had to give.

"The wheels on the bus go round and round..."

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4th liner for a 4th liner and a prima donna AHLer...

And people have bunchies in their panties?

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02-04-2013, 01:40 PM
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I do have concerns if Rupp is as slow as they say. Why did we make this trade. We already have some of the slowest players in the NHL.

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Meh.

Rather have Powe simply because he can play center. I'm not sure Rupp is a center.

Stupid move but something had to give.

"The wheels on the bus go round and round..."
How many centers do we need for the bottom two lines?

Cullen... Brodziak... Konopka... Mitchell...

Four for two spots...

No offense, but Powe is a LW and has been since he was in Philadelphia.

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Meh.

Rather have Powe simply because he can play center. I'm not sure Rupp is a center.

Stupid move but something had to give.

"The wheels on the bus go round and round..."
Rupp can play center, but Konopka is one of the best faceoff guys in the league, and Mitchell can play center in a pinch too. So we have three centers on the fourth line. Not a concern.

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I do have concerns if Rupp is as slow as they say. Why did we make this trade. We already have some of the slowest players in the NHL.
Rupp adds size, but not where we need it. Basically we picked up a goon who plays slightly better than your average goon.

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I don't see how it hurts us.
Except for the penalty kill. Powe did wonderful on the penalty kill. We are the 6th best ranked PK in the NHL. Obviously, Fletcher thinks Mitchell can replace Powe on the PK.

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How many centers do we need for the bottom two lines?

Cullen... Brodziak... Konopka... Mitchell...

Four for two spots...
Mitchell isn't a natural center, plus our centers seem to be kicked out of the circle a lot. Furthermore, if Granlund continues to suck, that means we'll need someone to replace that second center.

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No offense, but Powe is a LW and has been since he was in Philadelphia.
He's played some center for the Wild.

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Rupp adds size, but not where we need it. Basically we picked up a goon who plays slightly better than your average goon.
Do we really need more goons?

This is just shuffling the chairs again.

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02-04-2013, 01:51 PM
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I'd guess palmieri knew he didnt have a spot on the wild & requested a trade. i see rupp's cap hit is 1.5 vs powes 1.066 so now we are basically maxxed out on the cap. no offense to rupp but the word "retread" comes to mind.

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Chris Simon still available?

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I'd guess palmieri knew he didnt have a spot on the wild & requested a trade. i see rupp's cap hit is 1.5 vs powes 1.066 so now we are basically maxxed out on the cap. no offense to rupp but the word "retread" comes to mind.
Doesn't matter if he did or didn't request a trade, the Wild wanted him gone for his prima-donna attitude he showed towards the management.

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Wow. Didn't expect this, especially after we traded a 3rd for Powe.
Not a fan of looking at trades this way. What Fletcher paid is a sunk cost.

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I'd guess palmieri knew he didnt have a spot on the wild & requested a trade. i see rupp's cap hit is 1.5 vs powes 1.066 so now we are basically maxxed out on the cap.
Pure speculation. Almost to the cap. Have $1.7M free with Powe. pro-rated season, though.

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Rupp: 2011-12 New York Rangers NHL 60 4g 1a 5pts 97pims -1

Powe: 2011-12 Minnesota Wild NHL 82 6g 7a 13pts 57pims -20

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Wow. Didn't expect this, especially after we traded a 3rd for Powe.

We really should've gotten more back, like a late pick or something. Otherwise, adding Palmieri didn't really make sense.

I guess some veteran leadership, size and grit is never a bad thing, plus Rupp - Konopka - Mitchell should be a real pain to play against... Hmmh. Still don't see him as an upgrade over Powe, at least not an upgrade worth a promising young player like Palmieri.

But as others have said, there's got to be more to this.
Palmieri was long on his way out of town after his not reporting stunt that he threw after a holdout. They have been shopping him since guaranteed.

Powe really didn't bring much to this team other than his PK abilities..and we have a lot of guys that can play on the PK so it doesn't really hurt us.

Plus we rid a contract and now have flexibility to make a move later on down the road.



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Meh.

Rather have Powe simply because he can play center. I'm not sure Rupp is a center.

Stupid move but something had to give.

"The wheels on the bus go round and round..."
Powe was never a good center. Rupp actually has played more center and is a decent faceoff guy. Although I see him as wing on the Wild it can't hurt to have more depth there.

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Minnesota obviously wanted more size in the bottom-6. I am unfamiliar with the style of play Minnesota employs but the Rangers employ a very up-tempo style. Rupp just couldn't quite keep up. Hence why Powe makes more sense. The Rangers also lost Dubinsky and Prust over the off-season who helped stir the pot.

Rupp will be fine, he will score 3-5 goals a year and have 7-10 assists or so. He will drop the gloves with anyone but he isn't going to win very many. Good locker room guy.

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Hmm... Going to withhold judgement until I see Rupp play more.

My initial reaction is negative - I prefer Powe over Rupp. Couldn't care less about Palmieri.

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Pure speculation.
Not even close. The guy holdout for a one way and pissed the Wild brass off then when they cut him he didn't report to Houston. I'd bet Fletcher has been trying to move him since.

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