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02-04-2013, 03:03 PM
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What team has the worst cap situation in the NHL?

See title.

A lot of factors to count with here. Players developing, aging players, career-seasons and what not.

To me, Minnesota looks pretty bad right now regarding this. They only have 1,3 million dollars left making them the team with second least cap space left. They are nowhere that good. Heatley's contract will be a nice burden to get rid off.

Here you can see the payrolls: http://www.capgeek.com/payrolls/


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For those who don't know where to get team payroll info:

http://capgeek.com/

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It depends on a lot of things but if Vancouver don't move a goalie then they have just under 4 million to sign 2 defensemen and 6 forwards.

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It depends on a lot of things but if Vancouver don't move a goalie then they have just under 4 million to sign 2 defensemen and 6 forwards.
Easy to agree on. They need to win the cup within 2-3 years because their window will be closing soon IMO.

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Minnesota has a ton of cap space coming off the books within the next one to two years. We'll be fine.

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Canucks.
People need to be moved there by the start of next year.

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I hate it when people do that.... We the Wild are at one with the cap.

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I might as well just give info for the 3 teams with the least cap space:

1. Vancouver

Current cap space: $840,000

Impending RFAs [current cap hit]:
Schroeder [$1.025M]
Weise [$615k]
Tanev [$900k]
Total RFA: $2.54M

Impending UFAs:
Malhotra [$2.5M]
Raymond [$2.275M]
Higgins [$1.9M]
Lapierre [$1M]
Ebbett [$600k]
Volpatti [$600k]
Alberts [$1.225M]
Barker [$700k]
Total UFA: $10.8M

X-factor here: Luongo [$5.333M] may be traded soon.


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2. Minnesota

Current cap space: $1.361M

Impending RFAs:
Clutterbuck [$1.4M]
Scandella [$845k]
Falk [$825k]
Spurgeon [$526k]
Total RFA: $3.596M

Impending UFAs:
Bouchard [$4.08M]
Cullen [$3.5M]
Backstrom [$6M]
Total UFA: $13.58M


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3. Philadelphia

Current cap space: $1.597M

Impending RFAs:
Sestito [$605k]
Rinaldo [$544k]
Total RFA: $1.149M

Impending UFAs:
Fedotenko [$1.75M]
Shelley [$1.1M]
Knuble [$750k]
Timonen [$6.333M]
Walker [$1.7M]
Foster [$950k]
Leighton [$900k]
Total UFA: 12.908M



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Philly's numbers are inflated because Matt Walker and Chris Pronger, who are both IR count against the cap, despite the Flyers ability to move them to LTIR is they wanted to add someone.

Thats adds $6.6 Million to their available cap space on top of the $1.3 seen at Cap Geek.

Total then is $7.9-8 Million depending on the pennies, UNDER the current cap.

Next year with Timonen off the books, they will sit roughly $15 Million under the cap ($64 Cap).


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02-04-2013, 03:17 PM
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Yeah Vancouver looks like a potentially tight situation after this season. 8 players are UFA yet CapGeek shows they'll have only $4m (a little less actually) in projected cap space which I guess is because Edler and Burrows new cap hits kick in....

They'll have to fill out that roster with cheap players and obviously move one of their goalies.

The off season should be pretty interesting for a lot of teams.

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Nice posting, Unaffiliated. Appreciate it.

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02-04-2013, 03:20 PM
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Cullen, Bouchard and Backstrom won't return at those prices IMO.

If they return.

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obviously the main questions are:

a) will the FAs return to their teams?
b) at what price?
c) does the team need to sign other FAs to fulfill a need?

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Cullen, Bouchard and Backstrom won't return at those prices IMO.

If they return.
Indeed. With Bouchard's injuries history, nobody would sign him at 4M a year...

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Philly's numbers are inflated because Matt Walker and Chris Pronger, who are both IR count against the cap, despite the Flyers ability to move them to LTIR is they wanted to add someone.

Thats adds $6.6 Million to their available cap space on top of the $1.3 seen at Cap Geek.

Total then is $7.9-8 Million depending on the pennies, UNDER the current cap.

Next year with Timonen off the books, they will sit roughly $15 Million under the cap ($64 Cap).

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As long as the core[top6 F/top4 D/1G] is signed and you're under the cap, you're probably fine. Vancouver's set there.

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Philly's numbers are inflated because Matt Walker and Chris Pronger, who are both IR count against the cap, despite the Flyers ability to move them to LTIR is they wanted to add someone.

Thats adds $6.6 Million to their available cap space on top of the $1.3 seen at Cap Geek.

Total then is $7.9-8 Million depending on the pennies, UNDER the current cap.

Next year with Timonen off the books, they will sit roughly $15 Million under the cap ($64 Cap).
Thanks, added to my Philly post!

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In the future, the oilers will definitely be having a tough time keeping all their young guns

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We definitely right against the cap, but with Malhotra, Ballard and Raymond/Booth/Higgins able to be replaced we aren't in such a dire position as some may think.

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In the future, the oilers will definitely be having a tough time keeping all their young guns
They will just probably be a more top-heavy team with a really cheap bottom 6

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Minnesota may have problems in the long-term, especially if Parise or Suter regress and/or retire early with the recapture system.

Rangers will be tight next year but they should be fine. At worst, they won't be able to sign any big name UFAs in the next 3-4 years as their young guns all earn raises.

Don't know much about the situation in Vancouver but based on capgeek, looks like they will lose some players for sure. 14 players signed and only $4M in space? Even if they buy out someone, they are still looking at 13 players with around $8M in space.

Philly will be fine, their numbers on capgeek are misleading because Pronger is counted against the cap when he could be put on LTIR if necessary.

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Is Pronger supposed to play again ?

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Is Pronger supposed to play again ?
All signs point to no.

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