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02-04-2013, 04:16 PM
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What hype was the Cane management sending you guys?
This is a quote from the email/press release the team sent out when the trade was made:

"Jordan is an elite two-way player who possesses a rare combination of speed, size, scoring ability and defensive responsibility,” said Rutherford. “For his young age, he has a wealth of NHL experience, including winning the Stanley Cup with Pittsburgh in 2009. And he is obviously a natural fit for our team in joining our captain, his older brother Eric."

I don't see that as a hyped-up description.

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02-04-2013, 04:17 PM
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Maybe the talk of him centering Eric could be contrued as hyping him as a 1LC? I am obviously guessing.

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02-04-2013, 04:31 PM
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No one overated Staal. He was never as good as advertised. Simply look at his stas but Sutter is no star either

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02-04-2013, 04:49 PM
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No one overated Staal. He was never as good as advertised. Simply look at his stas but Sutter is no star either
In 68NHL games last season he had 31G 59Pts
Hes considered an elite defensive player... 6'4 220lbs... plays physical

Has started this year 7GP 6Pts 20Hits... 19:30 a game

Dudes an elite two-way talent

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02-04-2013, 04:53 PM
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I do love HF mentality. 7 games into the season on a new team:

Jordan Staal: 6 points in 7 games, while playing on the 2nd line = thread titled "Did Pens Fans overrate Jordan Staal?"

Alex Semin: 5 points in 7 games, while playing on the 1st line = thread titled "The Caps must be kicking themselves for letting Semin go."

Edit: and points don't even beging to take into account how they are playing

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02-04-2013, 05:27 PM
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I think his playmaking abilities are way underated.

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02-04-2013, 06:02 PM
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I do love HF mentality. 7 games into the season on a new team:

Jordan Staal: 6 points in 7 games, while playing on the 2nd line = thread titled "Did Pens Fans overrate Jordan Staal?"

Alex Semin: 5 points in 7 games, while playing on the 1st line = thread titled "The Caps must be kicking themselves for letting Semin go."

Edit: and points don't even beging to take into account how they are playing
Maybe we should just ban assessing the entire season for any player because it's only been 7 games. Get over it already Canes fans

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No one overated Staal. He was never as good as advertised. Simply look at his stas but Sutter is no star either
Means the same thing to me, overrated.

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02-04-2013, 06:06 PM
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Jordan Staal is UNDERRATED. Anyone who watched the playoffs last year is well aware of this. I'd LOVE to have him on my team as a 2nd line center. Just for kicks Pens fans, who were we over-rating last week, was it Kunitz(so slow;just terrible)? Well, now he's 2nd star of the week, so I guess we can shift back to under-rated now, right? Oh wait, that's right, let's just pile all the credit on Crosby.

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02-04-2013, 06:07 PM
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No. I firmly believe he'll be good 70+ points center with big defensive duties

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02-04-2013, 06:19 PM
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Jordan Staal is UNDERRATED. Anyone who watched the playoffs last year is well aware of this. I'd LOVE to have him on my team as a 2nd line center. Just for kicks Pens fans, who were we over-rating last week, was it Kunitz(so slow;just terrible)? Well, now he's 2nd star of the week, so I guess we can shift back to under-rated now, right? Oh wait, that's right, let's just pile all the credit on Crosby.
Ugh, Crosby is so overrated.

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02-04-2013, 06:24 PM
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Ugh, Crosby is so overrated.
Atta boy, twist what I said. I said instead of admitting you were wrong about Kunitz, you'll just credit Crosby.

I guess if you're not real bright, you might translate that into Crosby's over-rated, right?

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02-04-2013, 06:35 PM
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Don't expect huge numbers. You won't get them. Staal is a great physical forward who is responsible in his own end and can produce decent offensive numbers given the opportunity. He's not a "skill" player though. He's gritty, athletic, and hardworking but when you see him trying to finesse the puck you've gotta hit him on nose with a rolled up newspaper and say "no."

But to answer your question, no.

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02-04-2013, 06:37 PM
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Atta boy, twist what I said. I said instead of admitting you were wrong about Kunitz, you'll just credit Crosby.

I guess if you're not real bright, you might translate that into Crosby's over-rated, right?
I was just making a little quib about you saying who do we overrate this week. Even put the , sorry, no offense intended.

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02-04-2013, 06:42 PM
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I was just making a little quib about you saying who do we overrate this week. Even put the , sorry, no offense intended.
None taken. To be a regular poster here, your skin has to be pretty thick, and often it's easier to mistake the sarcasm than it is to believe the poster.

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02-04-2013, 06:43 PM
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Assessing a trade/player less than 10 games in is ridiculous. He has a new system and new teammates to learn. If you switch jobs/companies, even with almost the same role, do you expect to be as productive in the first week as you were in your previous role?

J. Staal is capable of being a 30-goal 70-point second-line center and one of the top penalty killers in the league, with a track record of elevating his game in playoffs. Rate that however you'd like.

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I always thought the Hurricanes overpaid badly to get Staal.(especially considering both Forsberg and Grigorenko were on the board at 8th overall).
Absolutely, especially since he was clearly not going to re-sign in Pittsburgh and they could have just signed him this summer. Had the lockout gone the entire year, Carolina would have given up assets to not get him any earlier.

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02-04-2013, 07:09 PM
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No they didn't. They overrated his offensive ability but he is still a two-way beast. A 60-70pt guy is his ceiling while also being able to shut down the other teams top players. BTW. He just scored.

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02-04-2013, 07:12 PM
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And he scores

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02-04-2013, 07:16 PM
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So, about that.

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02-04-2013, 07:18 PM
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maple leaf killer

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02-04-2013, 07:19 PM
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Player scores one goal-Not overrated guise.

Daniel Winnik has 5 Ovie has like...what 2? Daniel Winnik deserves 9 million

I do think he's a 2c on most teams though

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You can always count on the Leafs to end your goal scoring drought

How was he that wide open? Nice move in close, though.

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02-04-2013, 07:24 PM
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The Staals>>>>>Maple Leafs.

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02-04-2013, 07:25 PM
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Before being put with Skinner didn't he have worst linemates than Cooke and Kennedy who he played with in Pittsburgh?

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02-04-2013, 07:31 PM
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So, about that.
7 games = not big enough sample

1 game = TRADE SO WORTH IT

Ok

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02-04-2013, 07:33 PM
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7 games = not big enough sample

1 game = TRADE SO WORTH IT

Ok
Dude has 8GP 7Pts 22Hits with another period to go... What were your expectations?

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