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02-04-2013, 07:04 PM
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Elliotte Friedman just defended PJ Stock's comments (PK being hated by pretty much the whole team). He said that PJ does his research and he won't say things without legitimate sources.

I still think it was exaggerated.
Friedman works with PJ so I can see him defending him.

Interesting to see where this feud between Stubbs and PJ will go.

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It's ironic how each of those remarks can be thrown right back at Stock at an even greater magnitude.
Sadly his IQ level prevents him from understanding words with longer than 5 letters. Stock is 20x the tool that Cherry can be on his worst day, they can't be keeping him around for ratings; so how does he still have a job

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02-04-2013, 07:11 PM
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Friedman works with PJ so I can see him defending him.

Interesting to see where this feud between Stubbs and PJ will go.
I've never seen Stubbs get pissed. Going to be interesting.

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02-04-2013, 07:12 PM
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I've never seen Stubbs get pissed. Going to be interesting.
Ya it's rare for media guys to call each other out like that.

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Yikes.

PJStockHNIC:
Part 1. @Dave_Stubbs i miss the days of professionalism +real hockey writers at the #gazette like Red Fisher.

PJStockHNIC: @Dave_Stubbs
Part 2. U better have research to back u! Because I do- +the experience of being in that room to know what's what.

PJStockHNIC: @Dave_Stubbs
part 3. Next time write an honest article without your #Habs pompoms on.
see...even if what Stock said had some truth to it, I really doubt he got the opinion of all 22 players in the dressing room.

and if he did and they all said this...then that says as much about them and the state of the leadership in the dressing room, as it does about Subban

If Subban is such a cancer...then the management is doing the team a terrible disservice by keeping him there.

Furthermore, the leadership group in the room is doing a terrible job of dealing with this situation...you don't 'fix the room' by isolating a player

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02-04-2013, 07:26 PM
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Here's what Elliotte Friedman had to say about PJ's comments on Subban (starts around 32:00):

http://iphone.tsn.ca/tsnpodcasts/tsnradio/MMFeb4(2).mp3

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02-04-2013, 07:26 PM
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PJ is a goon. And a dumbass.

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02-04-2013, 07:43 PM
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Stock presented something like hearsay and conjecture, not really making any specific claim - but making damaging claims.

Stubbs laid out his rebuttal with some facts.

Stock just came back with ad hominems and an insult - wouldn't the journalistic, professional, and logical thing to do be to present his own facts? Especially now that he is staking Friedman's rep on his claims?

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02-04-2013, 07:46 PM
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Friedman works with PJ so I can see him defending him.

Interesting to see where this feud between Stubbs and PJ will go.
All Friedman really said was that PJ does do research. I.e. he didn't make it up. Friedman also was clear that he probably wouldn't disagree with what Stubbs would have to say about the Habs dressing room.

I'd believe that, I just wouldn't trust PJ to give a good interpretation of the research he does.

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02-04-2013, 07:47 PM
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PJ Stock doesn't even deserve the attention he's getting right now. He needs to just shut the **** up.

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02-04-2013, 07:49 PM
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Stock presented something like hearsay and conjecture, not really making any specific claim - but making damaging claims.

Stubbs laid out his rebuttal with some facts.

Stock just came back with ad hominems and an insult - wouldn't the journalistic, professional, and logical thing to do be to present his own facts? Especially now that he is staking Friedman's rep on his claims?
I think he needs a debate talk with you. I would pity your ears though

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02-04-2013, 09:15 PM
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PJ Stock doesn't even deserve the attention he's getting right now. He needs to just shut the **** up.
He certainly wastes no opportunities to talk faeces about the Habs. I think he resents not having his number retired after playing 20 games in Montreal.

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02-04-2013, 09:22 PM
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Pj stock is a ******. **** him

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Geeze, I can't believe anyone would believe a word Stock has to say.

He has some serious street cred being in an adult diaper commercial and basically drooling over Andi Petrello all HNIC like a damn puppy

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02-04-2013, 10:21 PM
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Yikes.

PJStockHNIC:
Part 1. @Dave_Stubbs i miss the days of professionalism +real hockey writers at the #gazette like Red Fisher.

PJStockHNIC: @Dave_Stubbs
Part 2. U better have research to back u! Because I do- +the experience of being in that room to know what's what.

PJStockHNIC: @Dave_Stubbs
part 3. Next time write an honest article without your #Habs pompoms on.
He's a good writer.

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02-04-2013, 10:30 PM
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time to defend Stubbs and unleash the goons on Stock.

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02-04-2013, 10:33 PM
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He should get sued for defamation of character and fired from his job. He's worse than scum.

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let's attack him on twitter, at the very least make him appologize to Stubbs.

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02-04-2013, 10:37 PM
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He's a good writer.
He's one of the few people who benefit greatly from the 140 character limit.

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02-05-2013, 12:51 AM
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Screw team Jacob or Edward...I'm #teamstubbs

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02-05-2013, 01:21 AM
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PJ Stock and the entire CBC over the last at least 10 years have existed for no other purpose than to try and bring down the Habs.

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02-05-2013, 07:06 AM
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PJ Stock and the entire CBC over the last at least 10 years have existed for no other purpose than to try and bring down the Habs.
Seriously.

HNIC Habs vs Bruins games have been sounding like a Bruins game coverage for a long time. It's a bit insulting, and not just to Habs fans. Some people do like to watch HNIC to see Canadian teams play, because we follow them (even if we "hate" them ^_^).

Anyhow, thank god for Stubbs' article. Gave me hope back for our media.

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02-05-2013, 08:23 AM
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Dave Stubbs ‏@Dave_Stubbs
I've worked 37 years in journalism to earn my reputation & credibility. Neither has been dented tonight. Thanks to all for your passion

Good on Stubbs for not getting sucked into a flame war with Stock.

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Stock is always bashing Habs, always. What a fool

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