I agree. Statistically every single facet of his game is below average. IF you allow some leeway for playing on a team with what is usually bad defense I can see how you might consider him mediocre/average tier. But I don't see how anyone can place him in the top 10 of goalies. I don't think he is that "painfully" overrated around the entire league, but among Carolina fans, yes definitely.
He's been able to build a reputation based on being hot in the playoffs in 06. People have trouble seeing past that. In addition, he makes his saves look more dramatic than they really are, so when he makes a good save it looks REALLY good, but then he gives up tons of soft ones.
Anyone that calls him average is wrong
Anyone that calls him elite is wrong
Basically he's in the 6-12 range every year. He plays behind an atrocious defense, plays more games and faces more shots than any G in the league. But, he usually is money in big games and in the post season he's almost unbeatable.
Just off the top of my head I have Ward around 7th or 8th best in the league. Don't see too many people over-rating him though. He's had a bad start to the season and i've noticed because he's in my pool so i think that has more to do with this thread than his actual ability.
Very average at best career stats, attrocious rebound control that would make Fleury giggle, and the Canes are always tooth and nail to even make the playoffs. And don't even start with the argument that he plays for a crap team. According to HF for the longest time, he's elite, and actual elite goalies have done more with less many times. Not to mention, they also play in the worst division in the NHL. This year, with a much improved roster (I know it's early still), he's managed to be mediocre.
Nothing personal against the guy as I think he is a good goalie, but it seems like that Conn Smythe has bought him a whole LOT of
slack throughout his career.
Discuss, and for all the Ward super fans, please tell me why he isn't overrated.
Don't you just hate it when you put all the time and effort into a thread like this and it completely blows up in your face just a couple hours later?