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02-04-2013, 04:06 PM
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Les Canadiens jouent bien ou les Canadiens joue bien ?
Les Canadiens "jousent" bien...

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02-04-2013, 04:07 PM
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Jouzent* not jouent.
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02-04-2013, 04:20 PM
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How so ? Jouer is an "er" verb and would be conjugated as ent for Ils/elles, no ?

I'm just trying to understand so I don't make the mistake.

Rule of two vowels being together ?
They are making fun of some funny way some quebecois speak french.

the proper way is "jouent", which has the same pronunciation as "joue"

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02-04-2013, 04:25 PM
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Good thread, I often wondered this myself.

Le Canadien, means the Canadian in English and this is how I often see our beloved club referred to as for example by a good friends on RDS...

However, whenever I speak French with my friends we commonly refer to them as "les canadien".

I have a strong affinity to refer to our glorious clubs as "The Canadians" whenever I speak English.

As much as the word nationalism and nation is manipulated for patriotic fervour, I feel our hockey team,"Les Canadien" represents the entire "united" Canadian nation, since a "Canadien" is the same as "Canuck", both terms, at least for me represents, refers to, rather, our glorious nation of Canada.

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02-04-2013, 04:34 PM
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How so ? Jouer is an "er" verb and would be conjugated as ent for Ils/elles, no ?

I'm just trying to understand so I don't make the mistake.

Rule of two vowels being together ?
He was joking , correct way is jouent .

On my part, always said Le Canadien, I don't know why. Just comes out that way and personally, it sounds better to my ears.

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02-04-2013, 04:51 PM
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I don't think I've ever heard LE CANADIENS.
I've always said LES. I've always heard people say LES.

As far as I know, RDS says LES and not LE. Correct?

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02-04-2013, 04:53 PM
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I don't think I've ever heard LE CANADIENS.
I've always said LES. I've always heard people say LES.

As far as I know, RDS says LES and not LE. Correct?
I hear LE everyday, in general society AND on RDS.

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02-04-2013, 04:54 PM
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I hear LE everyday, in general society AND on RDS.
Same here. Both are fine.

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02-04-2013, 04:55 PM
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I hear LE everyday, in general society AND on RDS.
Damn. If you say so. I clearly don't pay enough attention.

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Le Canadien a par ailleurs placé le nom de l’attaquant Aaron Palushaj au ballottage lundi.

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02-04-2013, 05:05 PM
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Damn. If you say so. I clearly don't pay enough attention.
Quote makes sense since they are referring to the organization, not the players.

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02-04-2013, 05:21 PM
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Well it's simple, it's both...

Les Canadiens designates the players, mostly used in the present tense.

Le Canadien designates the club as a whole, whether it's in the past, present or future.

You can say, les canadiens de montréal vont jouer contre les bruins mercredi.

Or, le canadien de montréal va jouer contre les bruins mercredi.

But it somehow sounds better to use Le instead of Les.

The habs are the only team that can be used in plural and singular

Les Flames de Calgary
(can't say le flames de Calgary)

Le Lightning de Tampa Bay
(can't say les lightnings)

Le Wild du Minneasota
(can't say les wilds)

etc.

- It's pretty much the same in english but the use of plural and singular is more distinct in french since you need to have les in front of canadien(s)


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02-04-2013, 05:27 PM
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Jouzent* not jouent.
I think you invented a new word.

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02-04-2013, 05:54 PM
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I think you invented a new word.
You'd be surprised how many times people make that mistake. Players are especially guilty of it.

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jouzent? lol

a similar question,

i often seen, like a recent JDM front page "Markov joue les heros"

i've never understood why it isn't "joue le hero". how can someone be the heroes? lol

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jouzent? lol

a similar question,

i often seen, like a recent JDM front page "Markov joue les heros"

i've never understood why it isn't "joue le hero". how can someone be the heroes? lol
It's because it's an expression there's no real explanation for it.

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02-04-2013, 09:27 PM
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jouzent? lol

a similar question,

i often seen, like a recent JDM front page "Markov joue les heros"

i've never understood why it isn't "joue le hero". how can someone be the heroes? lol
You know, I've heard that expression since I was young and never really paid attention to it. Now that you mention it, it does sound weird. But then again, a lot of expressions, English or French, are kind of weird if you try to make sense out of them.

One last thing people... It's not "Ce soir". It's "À soir". My god, where have you learned your french? Books and fancy classes??

"Canadiens jouzent ben à soir". There you go. That's the only sentence you need to know.

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02-04-2013, 09:31 PM
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Pretty sure n'importe quel vrai Québecois ou Francais would say les canadiens and not le canadiens. Grammar rules...

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02-04-2013, 09:33 PM
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"Canadiens jouzent ben à soir". There you go. That's the only sentence you need to know.
It's pronounced that way, it's not actually spelt that way. That's not even a real word lol go buy yourself a béscherelle...it's 'ils jouent ce soir'

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Well it's simple, it's both...

Les Canadiens designates the players, mostly used in the present tense.

Le Canadien designates the club as a whole, whether it's in the past, present or future.

You can say, les canadiens de montréal vont jouer contre les bruins mercredi.

Or, le canadien de montréal va jouer contre les bruins mercredi.

But it somehow sounds better to use Le instead of Les.

The habs are the only team that can be used in plural and singular

Les Flames de Calgary
(can't say le flames de Calgary)

Le Lightning de Tampa Bay
(can't say les lightnings)

Le Wild du Minneasota
(can't say les wilds)

etc.

- It's pretty much the same in english but the use of plural and singular is more distinct in french since you need to have les in front of canadien(s)
100% correct!

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My source says it's Les Canadiens.


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02-04-2013, 10:34 PM
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My source says it's Les Canadiens.

Holy crap, Arcade Fire made a song for the Habs!?

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Is "le" some sort of media/RDS "hollier than thou, let's speak proper" kinda thing maybe? I too, and everyone I know, say "Les".

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My source says it's Les Canadiens.

Well I think we've just found a replacement for Coldplay's fix you.

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