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02-05-2013, 01:52 AM
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Cammalleri/Bourque trade 1 year later

Last january when the trade occured , i though it was at best a decent move. Getting rid of a 6M$/year unidimensional player who was struggling for another struggling one with a cheaper cap size but 2 more years on his contract. Both same age.
We got a 2nd round pick, and this is where i think , we might end up as big time winner on this deal.

Calgary looks really bad right now . 4 pts in 6 games , good for the last place in the league.
Personnally i think they will finish bottom 5 .
With one of the most deep draft in years coming up , we might get a really solid prospect with that pick. One with the same kind of upside that Collberg have.

And even if it would have been a straight up swap i would still be pleased with it

I know it's early but ..
Cammalleri : 6gp-0g-2a-2pts, 6 shots, 17:39 TOI/G
Bourque : 8gp-3g-2a-5pts, 21 shots, 17:13 TOI/G

Cammalleri : 2 years left at 6M/year
Bourque : 4 years left at 3.33M/year

What do you guys think? and what kind of player (names) are we looking for as an early 2nd round pick ?
Oh ..and yeah we got Patrick Holland too on this deal . Flames got Karri Ramo.


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We win because of the second round pick we got.

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Last january when the trade occured , i though this trade was at best a decent move. Getting rid of a 6M$/year unidimensional player who was struggling for another struggling one with a cheaper cap size but 2 more years on his contract. Both same age.
We got a 2 nd round pick in the deal , and this is where i think , we might end up as big time winner on this deal.

Calgary looks really bad right now . 4 pts right now in 6 games , good for the last place in the league.
Personnally i think they will finish bottom 5 .
With one of the most deep draft in years coming up , we might get a really solid prospect with that pick. One with the same kind of upside that Collberg have.

And even if it would have been a straight up swap i would still be pleased with it

I know it's early but ..
Cammalleri : 6gp-0g-2a-2pts, 6 shots, 17:39 TOI/G
Bourque : 8gp-3g-2a-5pts, 21 shots, 17:13 TOI/G

Cammalleri : 2 years left at 6M/year
Bourque : 4 years left at 3.33M/year

What do you guys think? and what kind of player (names) are we looking for as an early 2nd round pick ?
Don't forget that we also recieved Patrick Holland in the deal.

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I liked the trade when it was made and I like it more now. Not having to watch cammy float for 6M is great.

As for that 2nd round pick I expect the pick to be in the 35-40 range so hopefully a guy like Dickinson is there.

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Calgary is a really bad team. That's the big difference.

Cammalleri is still an elite playoff performer. Too bad he's playing on a team that isn't making the playoffs for a while.

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We won the trade, but Cammalleri won't be forgotten.

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We got rid of a cancer in the locker room + his 6M and got bigger in Bourque + high second draft pick in a so deep draft.. nuff said.. we stole Feaster...

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and holland...

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02-05-2013, 02:59 AM
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and to think some wanted our GM to wait longer for Cammy's value to go up...

guess they were wrong.

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but I'm pretty happy with Bergevin's job so far.

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one of the great mysteries I've encountered is how Cammalleri is such a renowned gym rat and 'pound for pound' the strongest player in the league and all that junk, yet he's so soft, slow and not willing to engage in any puck battles. I never understood that.

Either way the trade looks to be a brilliant one so far. Bourque had better goal totals in recent years even when he's been underperforming. Hopefully Calgary can continue to be terrible.

PG wasn't as bad as some say but he definitely had to go. I think Bergevin has been fantastic so far.

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I'll always remember that shift he had with us, when we played San Jose last year.. Puck goes into the right corner, Cammy is closest to the puck and what he does he do? Skates away from it, and let the shark player get possession. That was the moment I jumped on the trade Cammy bandwagon, such a SOFT play! He became so one dimensional for us.

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I'll always remember that shift he had with us, when we played San Jose last year.. Puck goes into the right corner, Cammy is closest to the puck and what he does he do? Skates away from it, and let the shark player get possession. That was the moment I jumped on the trade Cammy bandwagon, such a SOFT play! He became so one dimensional for us.

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liked the trade then and love it now.

The assets we got and the way bourque is playing now its a no brainer.

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Trade was meh at the time, but looks like robbery now, especially with the Cap going down. Hopefully we can package that 2nd rounder with our first to move up, or get another Collberg level type player.

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Trade was meh at the time, but looks like robbery now, especially with the Cap going down. Hopefully we can package that 2nd rounder with our first to move up, or get another Collberg level type player.
the bolded part is very important and helps our situation big time.

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I'll always remember that shift he had with us, when we played San Jose last year.. Puck goes into the right corner, Cammy is closest to the puck and what he does he do? Skates away from it, and let the shark player get possession. That was the moment I jumped on the trade Cammy bandwagon, such a SOFT play! He became so one dimensional for us.
He didn't skate away from it, he jumped out of the way with one hand on the stick, but he missed the puck. He was always playing scared after his injuries, heartless and soft.

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PG wasn't as bad as some say
Actually, he really was. His trades weren't great and getting Kaberle was just stupid.
That's not what made him bad though. It was his micromanaging and media paranoia that made him bad.
Trying to control the Montreal media is always a doomed proposition. Trying to guide the Montreal media from time to time sure, controlling it...screwed right from the start.

It was the atmosphere PG created that infested all levels of the team that made him bad. Bad for Montreal and any other high profile team where such an approach is just not going to fly.


He tried to run the Habs like it was a corporation in which every employee of the organization right down to the towel boys had signed a non-disclosure contract.
He was a PR nightmare for the tradition of the Canadiens.

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Was just happy to dump Cammeltoe last year and with Bork's resurgence (thought he would, since he was playing hurt last year) and the new CBA's cap crunch, Habs make out like bandits! Plus a 2nd in a deep draft and a good prospect in Holland! Poor Flames.

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I thought the trade was fairly decent. I think I was more excited about the 2nd rounder and Holland, but I told myself; "If Bourque turns it around this year and plays up to the potential he has, Montreal comes out as big winners." He did. Early in the season, sure. I'm not looking at point totals right now, as nice as they may be. I'm looking at the way he plays on the ice. Last year, his play was a reflection of the team and management itself - simply not good. This year, under new management and new mentality, we are seeing a different Bourque. One that competes for every loose puck, charges the net and plays a good two-way game.

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I'll always remember that shift he had with us, when we played San Jose last year.. Puck goes into the right corner, Cammy is closest to the puck and what he does he do? Skates away from it, and let the shark player get possession. That was the moment I jumped on the trade Cammy bandwagon, such a SOFT play! He became so one dimensional for us.
Our entire team played that way. Soft as baby poop. We never were first into the corners...it wasn't a Cammy thing.

Do you really think Cammy would have 2 points on this team?

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Funny how no one's brought up the one aspect of the trade that i disliked.
Was it at all necessary to give away Karri Ramo?
At the time Price was on his bridge contract and there was no gaurantee
Ramo should've been kept instead of being a throw in.

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Last january when the trade occured , i though it was at best a decent move. Getting rid of a 6M$/year unidimensional player who was struggling for another struggling one with a cheaper cap size but 2 more years on his contract. Both same age.
We got a 2nd round pick, and this is where i think , we might end up as big time winner on this deal.

Calgary looks really bad right now . 4 pts in 6 games , good for the last place in the league.
Personnally i think they will finish bottom 5 .
With one of the most deep draft in years coming up , we might get a really solid prospect with that pick. One with the same kind of upside that Collberg have.

And even if it would have been a straight up swap i would still be pleased with it

I know it's early but ..
Cammalleri : 6gp-0g-2a-2pts, 6 shots, 17:39 TOI/G
Bourque : 8gp-3g-2a-5pts, 21 shots, 17:13 TOI/G

Cammalleri : 2 years left at 6M/year
Bourque : 4 years left at 3.33M/year

What do you guys think? and what kind of player (names) are we looking for as an early 2nd round pick ?
Oh ..and yeah we got Patrick Holland too on this deal . Flames got Karri Ramo.
Picks in '13 draft hard to acquire. Goat aced this trade...one of his few good moves

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Was a very good trade.
1-Gained big cap space in the short term
2-Got a 2nd pick (almost a late 1st because Calgary sucks so bad)

++Totally unexpected:... Bourque is looking very good this season.

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