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02-05-2013, 10:05 AM
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Seriously tho who gives a **** about attendance, you all sound like a bunch of little kids fighting over who gets a bigger piece of cake. how about we talk hockey

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02-05-2013, 10:08 AM
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Sigh, we've dealt with losing Stevens, Niedermayer, Holik, Gomez, Rafalski and Martin. And you know what? We always continue to chug along.

They have to forfeit the pick either this year or next
Those guys all have something Kovy doesnt have.

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Facing the Parise-less NJ Devils. Wow. I always suspected that once the organization stabbed their home growns in the back and gave Kovy 100 MILLION dollars it would be impossible to keep Zach a Devil. Really not surprised he left. Especially after the threw Langenbrunner under he bus. I think it weakens the rivalry and I've pretty much lost interest in the Devils.

When do the Devils have to forfeit their #1 pick to make good on cheating the cap?
Langs was a cancer in the locker room and Zach planted the seeds of leaving way before the Kovy contract, Rumors are Lou offered him almost 90 million to stay. Its not the players that make the rivalry,,its the laundry and us fans

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02-05-2013, 10:11 AM
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4th line could be a liability for us. New faces, first time playing together. We'll see.

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02-05-2013, 10:12 AM
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If I were a Devils fan, I'd still be annoyed at losing Parise. But, they always manage to find talent somewhere.

All jokes aside, you have to respect an organization that continually finds success no matter what player leaves.

Still hate them.

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Those guys all have something Kovy doesnt have.
And how do you think they got that thing? Magically appearing out of nowhere?

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02-05-2013, 10:17 AM
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Can't see Bickel in the lineup. Gilroy has been playing well. Bickel keeps putting himself in the dog house.

Unless Torts feels like having a guy play less then 5 minutes on his bench.

Doubt it. That's what all these moves were about yesterday. No more short bench.

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02-05-2013, 10:17 AM
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Facing the Parise-less NJ Devils. Wow. I always suspected that once the organization stabbed their home growns in the back and gave Kovy 100 MILLION dollars it would be impossible to keep Zach a Devil. Really not surprised he left. Especially after the threw Langenbrunner under he bus. I think it weakens the rivalry and I've pretty much lost interest in the Devils.

When do the Devils have to forfeit their #1 pick to make good on cheating the cap?

I lol'ed all summer with all the Parise bashing and Kovalchuk love fest about how Zach couldnt carry Kovies jock.

Devil fans and more importantly Lou used know that you win with an all around wsrrior like Zach over a me-first, cater everything around me,I need 25++ minutes a game and all 2 minutes on the point of every PP, player like Kovalchuk.

He places himself and his game above everything and everybody onthe team as shown by his total disregard for his team and teamates all for a totally meaningless ASG and has had this outlook since he entered the NHL hence why has never lead a team anywhere outside a cindarella run as a 6 seed.

There is a reason that he is a player in his prime with a 100++ million dollar deal with the longest term on a deal ever in the history on the game and he still got passed over for the Cin favor of a 38yr old journeyman defenseman which says it all right there for anyone paying attention outside of the excuse making Devils fans who spin it any way they can.

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02-05-2013, 10:17 AM
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We better see gilroy tonight...he played well the other night. Bickel better not be in the lineup

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02-05-2013, 10:19 AM
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We better see gilroy tonight...he played well the other night. Bickel better not be in the lineup
Bickel has no place on this team. He's a goon...pure and simple. Those guys shouldn't have a place in this NHL. He does nothing well, except fight.

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02-05-2013, 10:21 AM
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We better see gilroy tonight...he played well the other night. Bickel better not be in the lineup
I just don't see it.

Sather didn't make all these moves yesterday so that Torts can continue on with a short bench.

Guys already starting to run out of gas. That's why Sather just significantly improved both our mobility and depth.

Bickel should only be an emergency fill in at this point. Really disappointed in how his development has gone this season.

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02-05-2013, 10:22 AM
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With the lineup the Devils have these days, it seems like they're a team that will keep coming after you regardless of what line is out there, so you just can't let up and assume cuz the 3rd or 4th line is out that you'll have an easy time.

So a consistent effort will be needed...

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02-05-2013, 10:23 AM
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Langs was a cancer in the locker room and Zach planted the seeds of leaving way before the Kovy contract
That's nonsense. Lou fed those guys the team loyalty kool aid and then gave their money to Kovalchuk

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02-05-2013, 10:24 AM
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I lol'ed all summer with all the Parise bashing and Kovalchuk love fest about how Zach couldnt carry Kovies jock.

Devil fans and more importantly Lou used know that you win with an all around wsrrior like Zach over a me-first, cater everything around me,I need 25++ minutes a game and all 2 minutes on the point of every PP, player like Kovalchuk.

He places himself and his game above everything and everybody onthe team as shown by his total disregard for his team and teamates all for a totally meaningless ASG and has had this outlook since he entered the NHL hence why has never lead a team anywhere outside a cindarella run as a 6 seed.

There is a reason that he is a player in his prime with a 100++ million dollar deal with the longest term on a deal ever in the history on the game and he still got passed over for the Cin favor of a 38yr old journeyman defenseman which says it all right there for anyone paying attention outside of the excuse making Devils fans who spin it any way they can.
BS has only played for two teams in a 13 year career,,not quite the definition of journeyman. Post shows you know little about the team. he is the most respected man in the locker room and with all our young talent being D man he was the perfect choice.

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02-05-2013, 10:26 AM
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So, in a nutshell, here is what Ilya Kovalchuk cost the Devils:

—Johnny Oduya
—Niclas Bergfors
—Patrice Cormier
—The Devils’ 2010 first-round draft choice
—$100 million
—A $3 million fine
—A third-round draft choice in 2011
—A first-round draft choice in 2013 or 2014

and Zach Parise

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Ranger fan concerned about the Devils losing Parise. What fan base is obsessed with what team again? Should really worry about your team that at the moment looks like a one and half line team.

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02-05-2013, 10:29 AM
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So, in a nutshell, here is what Ilya Kovalchuk cost the Devils:

—Johnny Oduya
—Niclas Bergfors
—Patrice Cormier
—The Devils’ 2010 first-round draft choice
—$100 million
—A $3 million fine
—A third-round draft choice in 2011
—A first-round draft choice in 2013 or 2014

and Zach Parise
But they have Ilya Kovalchuk.

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Ranger fan concerned about the Devils losing Parise. What fan base is obsessed with what team again? Should really worry about your team that at the moment looks like a one and half line team.

No concern at all... kind of happy about it I guess. But I use to watch the Devils games, not so interesting anymore. Maybe the lockout has something to do with it...

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But they have Ilya Kovalchuk.

He's not even Captain material

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I lol'ed all summer with all the Parise bashing and Kovalchuk love fest about how Zach couldnt carry Kovies jock.

Devil fans and more importantly Lou used know that you win with an all around wsrrior like Zach over a me-first, cater everything around me,I need 25++ minutes a game and all 2 minutes on the point of every PP, player like Kovalchuk.

He places himself and his game above everything and everybody onthe team as shown by his total disregard for his team and teamates all for a totally meaningless ASG and has had this outlook since he entered the NHL hence why has never lead a team anywhere outside a cindarella run as a 6 seed.

There is a reason that he is a player in his prime with a 100++ million dollar deal with the longest term on a deal ever in the history on the game and he still got passed over for the Cin favor of a 38yr old journeyman defenseman which says it all right there for anyone paying attention outside of the excuse making Devils fans who spin it any way they can.
Man, I thought I took the rivalry seriously, but you take it to a different level But I shall try to address your points.

A) I dont see how you can argue Kovy isnt a warrior. He played the whole playoffs with a herniated disc in his back while outscoring your boy Parise.

B) Show me evidence Kovy places himself above the team

C) I dont pretend to know what goes on inside the Devils locker room and I dont think you should either.

D) Salvador is a journeyman? I didnt know journeymen play over 700 games

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02-05-2013, 10:31 AM
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Heading to the Rock for this one...Devils should thank us for filling their building as they've had to go the pathetic Tampa Bay route where they spam you with 60/70% discounts on tickets just to get people in the doors and that practice started by the second game of the season...looks like their fans were really dieing to get hockey back!


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Rangers fans, are JA and I am Chariot the same person?

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That's nonsense. Lou fed those guys the team loyalty kool aid and then gave their money to Kovalchuk
You are sooooooooooo wrong. First Lang checked out after he was scratched for a game. Lou tried to have him wave his NTC, he wouldnt. His kids were is school and didnt want to move. Finally it got so bad he agreed if he could pick the team, he got traded back to Dallas for that year. Parises father was a strong influence in him leaving plus if you listened to, which I know you didnt, Parise's presser when he got signed he said he and Suter have been throwing around playing together for years and this was the best spot. You do know Parise and Suter got married in the same church(Not to each other but there are whispers). Suters wife grew up one town over from where the Parises live. That ZP build a 3 million dollar home on a lake 2 years ago 30 min outside St Paul. Every sign pointed to him leaving and it has NOTHING to do with Kovy

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I lol'ed all summer with all the Parise bashing and Kovalchuk love fest about how Zach couldnt carry Kovies jock.

Devil fans and more importantly Lou used know that you win with an all around wsrrior like Zach over a me-first, cater everything around me,I need 25++ minutes a game and all 2 minutes on the point of every PP, player like Kovalchuk.
There was 3 straight years of Zach "William Wallace" Parise leading 107, 99, and 106 point teams to nothing better than 2nd round exits, before Kovalchuk came along. And within 2.5 years of Kovalchuk joining the team, they suddenly make the finals.

Keep pretending it was Parise and not Kovalchuk kid.

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