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02-05-2013, 11:27 AM
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TOR-LA Blockbuster

To Leafs: Anze Kopitar, Johnathan Bernier, Nick Ebert
To LA Kings: Phil Kessel, Carl Gunnarsson, Morgan Rielly

Why Toronto does it: Gives Leafs a new face of the franchise and a solid two way player. Also gives them a potential starting goalie and a project defenseman.

Why LA does it: Gives LA their best sniper since Ziggy Palffy while also giving them depth at the blueline which they are sorely lacking this year. Gunnarsson is quietly a very effective top 4 blueliner. Also LA acquires a potential stud #1 defenseman.

You have to give up something to get something. I think both teams benefit in the long run. Both teams also deal from a position of strength.

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02-05-2013, 11:28 AM
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LA wouldn't trade Kopitar alone for that package. It's not that it's a bad package, it's actually fairly decent, it's just not Kopitar worthy. Besides, keep your freaking 1st round picks. Remember Tukka?

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not the worst leafs trade proposal ive ever seen

kings say no

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02-05-2013, 11:36 AM
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LA wouldn't do this.

But why are so Maple Leaf fans opposed to rebuilding like every other team that has been bad for so long? Keep Morgan Reilly, keep your first round picks and young players, develop a strong core and build through the draft. There is no quick fix.

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02-05-2013, 11:37 AM
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To Leafs: Anze Kopitar, Johnathan Bernier, Nick Ebert
To LA Kings: Phil Kessel, Carl Gunnarsson, Morgan Rielly

Why Toronto does it: Gives Leafs a new face of the franchise and a solid two way player. Also gives them a potential starting goalie and a project defenseman.

Why LA does it: Gives LA their best sniper since Ziggy Palffy while also giving them depth at the blueline which they are sorely lacking this year. Gunnarsson is quietly a very effective top 4 blueliner. Also LA acquires a potential stud #1 defenseman.

You have to give up something to get something. I think both teams benefit in the long run. Both teams also deal from a position of strength.
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02-05-2013, 11:38 AM
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The value is there but the context isn't.

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02-05-2013, 11:40 AM
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Counter Proposal:

To Kings: 1st in 13, 1st in 14, 1st in 15

To Leafs: D. Brown

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LA wouldn't do this.

But why are so Maple Leaf fans opposed to rebuilding like every other team that has been bad for so long? Keep Morgan Reilly, keep your first round picks and young players, develop a strong core and build through the draft. There is no quick fix.
Most of us want build, we've been rebuilding for 5 years now. Its the only way to get a #1C or #1D

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02-05-2013, 11:42 AM
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To Leafs: Anze Kopitar, Johnathan Bernier, Nick Ebert
To LA Kings: Phil Kessel, Carl Gunnarsson, Morgan Rielly

Why Toronto does it: Gives Leafs a new face of the franchise and a solid two way player. Also gives them a potential starting goalie and a project defenseman.

Why LA does it: Gives LA their best sniper since Ziggy Palffy while also giving them depth at the blueline which they are sorely lacking this year. Gunnarsson is quietly a very effective top 4 blueliner. Also LA acquires a potential stud #1 defenseman.

You have to give up something to get something. I think both teams benefit in the long run. Both teams also deal from a position of strength.
If Kings fans didnt want to do kessel for richards in a thread a few days ago why would they want to trade a even better center (kopitar in a package for him) Serious stop trying to send kessel to the kings. He isn't a player we would trade any of the core for, He would turn into a second line 50 -55 player and only then if he got chemistry with his center and wakes up a dead pp right now. He simply doesnt play the type of game that the kings do Hes not physical enuff nor is he defensive enuff. You can talk all you want about his offense but in the kings system it would disappear it has for every player when they get to la.
Ok next to this so called lack of depth we have the players we have filling in are doing just fine, The only probelm right now is drew is playing to many mins. This will change as soon as Willie mitchell gets back and hes day to daywith doctors clearance now. Gunnarson is a decent defenseman but the kings would be stuck with him in april when greene gets back. As far as a potential studd defenseman lol we already have drew and slava in training. I suggest the leafs keep him hes needed there alot more then here.

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02-05-2013, 11:44 AM
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what makes kessel a better sniper than carter? the fact that carter has scored more goals, has played well in the playoffs and won a cup?

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No, Kopitar isn't going to be traded for that package. He was drafted and developed by LA. The leafs will have to knock DL's socks off with a proposal, this is not it.

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It's a fairly fair trade proposal on paper, but I think Lombardi is demanding a LOT more for Bernier. Therefore, from Lombardi's view, it's not even close to being even.

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02-05-2013, 11:52 AM
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I would trade the entire organization for Kopitar!

Anyway, how about Richards + Penner (dump) for Kessel? Provides an offensive spark while Leafs get a long term #1C a swap of struggling stars.

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02-05-2013, 11:55 AM
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It's a fairly fair trade proposal on paper, but I think Lombardi is demanding a LOT more for Bernier. Therefore, from Lombardi's view, it's not even close to being even.
The issue is clearly adding Kopitar.

Everyone acting like Leaf fans are hoping for quick fix should know very few players names would be accepted (without a riot happening) in a Rielly proposal. Kopitar is obviously one.

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Love Kopitar but wouldn't give up that package to get him, it doesn't fit where we are right now

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To Leafs: Anze Kopitar, Johnathan Bernier, Nick Ebert
To LA Kings: Phil Kessel, Carl Gunnarsson, Morgan Rielly

Why Toronto does it: Gives Leafs a new face of the franchise and a solid two way player. Also gives them a potential starting goalie and a project defenseman.

Why LA does it: Gives LA their best sniper since Ziggy Palffy while also giving them depth at the blueline which they are sorely lacking this year. Gunnarsson is quietly a very effective top 4 blueliner. Also LA acquires a potential stud #1 defenseman.

You have to give up something to get something. I think both teams benefit in the long run. Both teams also deal from a position of strength.

Why do people keep proposing that the Leafs give up assets for Bernier, a goalie with less NHL experience than Reimer?

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02-05-2013, 12:06 PM
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Take out Bernier because he's over valued by LA fans and this trade looks a lot better.

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Why do people keep proposing that the Leafs give up assets for Bernier, a goalie with less NHL experience than Reimer?
maybe because they think bernier is the better goalie should he get the full work.

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Take out Bernier because he's over valued by LA fans and this trade looks a lot better.
La still says no to a over rated kessel

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maybe because they think bernier is the better goalie should he get the full work.
I don't know about that. James Reimer has been looking quite solid this year and Jonathan Bernier hasn't done anything to relieve the Kings during Quick's struggles, has he?

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maybe because they think bernier is the better goalie should he get the full work.
He should probably quit getting lit up every time he plays before people start to think that.

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I don't know about that. James Reimer has been looking quite solid this year and Jonathan Bernier hasn't done anything to relieve the Kings during Quick's struggles, has he?
Well u play one nhl game in 10 months and see how good u are. People need to cut him some slack till he can play a decent nhl amount. He only gave up 4 3 of them goals were on the pp which i say had more to do with the goals then jb play.

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He should probably quit getting lit up every time he plays before people start to think that.
Again i watched the game and only one goal was his fault imo. 3 were on the pp so i dont blame him there Bad pk hurt him

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The Kings top strength RW with Brown, Williams and Carter.

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Well u play one nhl game in 10 months and see how good u are. People need to cut him some slack till he can play a decent nhl amount. He only gave up 4 3 of them goals were on the pp which i say had more to do with the goals then jb play.
Enough excuses. He has simply not performed in the NHL. There comes a point where potential becomes useless if you don't show anything at the NHL level.

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