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02-05-2013, 12:20 PM
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This Mike Liut interview was obviously initiated by the station.

On Friday on the morning show, Ray Ferraro says "Mike Liut must be furious with this situation". Producer goes "Liut .... hmmmm".

Next thing you know you have the station interviewing Mike Liut. And Liut said nothing controversial. Yes, Cory wants to play. Yes, they would like him to get hte majority of the starts. Yes - they understand the situation and will have to be patient.

These guys are just manufacturing controversy.

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02-05-2013, 12:27 PM
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I agree in the off season I think his value decreases, I know Nucks fans will disagree and that's fine. But Luit talking about the situation and making comments that can or will be taken out of context, though I am not sure how some can be, doesn't help Gillis' cause, IMO.
So according to HF posters, since his value before the season was a bag of pucks, his value must decrease to half a bag of pucks in the off season.
Vancouver will take the risk on losing out on the redundant assets and keep a top 5-10 goalie unless the offers improve.
In the meantime those teams with questionable goaltending can keep telling us how they are in the drivers' seat while Vancouver with two great goalies is screwed.

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This Mike Liut interview was obviously initiated by the station.

On Friday on the morning show, Ray Ferraro says "Mike Liut must be furious with this situation". Producer goes "Liut .... hmmmm".

Next thing you know you have the station interviewing Mike Liut. And Liut said nothing controversial. Yes, Cory wants to play. Yes, they would like him to get hte majority of the starts. Yes - they understand the situation and will have to be patient.

These guys are just manufacturing controversy.
I hate to break it to you but 99% of the time, that's how it works.

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02-05-2013, 12:30 PM
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Luongo was the reason the Canucks got to game 7 of the SCF. Without him we may not even make it to the SCF, and we certainly don't make it to game 7 if we did make it that far. And where do you get that he hasn't been good internationally? Luongo has been stellar internationally.


Repeating this over and over assuming everyone has forgotten the details doesn't make it true. Luongo was pulled in the SCF before game 7 by a coach who has been his biggest backer. The games the Canucks won were defensive battles where Luongo was great. Then there was the opposite, where he let then down. Canucks didn't lose the SCF because of Luongo but with consistent, great goaltender (like Quick or Thomas that year), they didn't need 7 games to win that series.

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When was it ever in doubt that Robert would provide another one or two years of solid goaltending? He's an older veteran signed to a decade-long contract. That hasn't changed and was the main sticking point on discussions of value.

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02-05-2013, 12:33 PM
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Repeating this over and over assuming everyone has forgotten the details doesn't make it true. Luongo was pulled in the SCF before game 7 by a coach who has been his biggest backer. The games the Canucks won were defensive battles where Luongo was great. Then there was the opposite, where he let then down. Canucks didn't lose the SCF because of Luongo but with consistent, great goaltender (like Quick or Thomas that year), they didn't need 7 games to win that series.
That's not very accurate, IMO. Luongo won the games he could win. If you can show me any goalie who wins a series when his team scores 8 goals in 7 games then I'll acknowledge your point.

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02-05-2013, 12:36 PM
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For good measure...

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In response to Liut's remarks that Luongo be dealt ASAP to make way for his client...

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Gillis on Schneider: "We are conscious of ice time and we have to win games. We don't have the luxury of peoples' feelings."

https://twitter.com/benkuzma/status/298836447979528192

Break out the popcorn, folks. As time winds down, patience is wearing thin.

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For good measure...
I'm feeling that Schneider's agent is going to demand a move if Luongo keeps getting more starts or overshadowing Schneider, despite what Botchford says

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02-05-2013, 12:52 PM
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I'm feeling that Schneider's agent is going to demand a move if Luongo keeps getting more starts or overshadowing Schneider, despite what Botchford says
Funniest part about Liut's comments is they put a TON of pressure on Cory, because if Vigneault decides to appease Liut/Schneider by giving Cory the Wild game (a start which Luongo has earned), and Cory ***** the bed (3 gols against or more), sweet jesus will there be a **** storm.

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02-05-2013, 12:57 PM
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Luongo is and has handled this whole situation with absolute class.

It's become clear that Cory is in the ear of his agent and now some may question his character. If Lu can smile and play hockey under less than ideal circumstances then surely Schneider can for a couple weeks?

If I were a Canucks fan I'd be worried. Very worried that we will end up trading Luongo, the better, more team oriented keeper than Cory, the narcissistic, individualistic, game-elevating-while-there-is-less-pressure-on-me type of guy. Not a guy I want to hand the keys too.

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02-05-2013, 12:58 PM
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Luongo is playing just like he always does during the season. Always plays well, problem is once he gets in the playoffs and his success has not been that great in Van or internationally. I like Lu but I think he would be a better playoff performer elsewhere where he isn't the face of the franchise. When he had a bad game someone else had to step up and no one ever did.

I think the return will be a lot less than some believe. Toronto is not hard up for him since they don't have a good enough team to warrant such a move. Florida? Wsh? Other than Florida, is there another team that will take the contract?
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That's just wrong.

Luongo was the reason the Canucks got to game 7 of the SCF. Without him we may not even make it to the SCF, and we certainly don't make it to game 7 if we did make it that far. And where do you get that he hasn't been good internationally? Luongo has been stellar internationally.

Luongo has been one of the best goalies in the NHL this season. We're perfectly happy to keep him.
Luongo has an excellent international resume...saying it any other way is an outright fallacy.

Canucks don't get to game 7 without Luongo in net period, end of discussion. 8 goals scored in 7 games....

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02-05-2013, 01:01 PM
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Some fans need to take a step back and think about this logically.
Schneider wants to be the starter, no doubt. But don't you think he'd rather be the starter for an improved roster, in other words, be patient with Luongo and Gillis so we can get the best possible return, which would benefit Schneider much more in the end?
And it's not like Gillis didn't discuss this with Schneider when they signed the contract last summer, I bet GMMG told Schneider and his agent that he's going to be patient with shopping Luongo and that it could take the whole season, but promised Schneider the starting spot for the long term plan for the franchise.

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02-05-2013, 01:04 PM
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LOL @ Canucks fans using the "nothing to see here" approach concerning Liut's comments.

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02-05-2013, 01:08 PM
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LOL @ Canucks fans using the "nothing to see here" approach concerning Liut's comments.
He was called up by radio hosts, it would have been more significant if he came out of no where and started complaining. And if you pay attention to the details, his discourse demonstrates that they both knew this would be a process that wasn't going to be rushed and there will be a resolution. I bet at this time next year, this will be meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

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LOL @ Canucks fans using the "nothing to see here" approach concerning Liut's comments.
There isn't anything to see though.
It's an agent's words being taken out of context.

Too many people don't like to acknowledge that media construes peoples' words to their own ends, but it DOES happen and it was proven to have happened here.

Move along now.

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LOL @ Canucks fans using the "nothing to see here" approach concerning Liut's comments.
That is great. It doesn't really matter what agents say or anyone else because both goalies are locked up in multi year deals. There is nothing that anyone can do about it lol. It's not like Schneider is not going to show up to work if he doesn't get what he wants.

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I'm feeling that Schneider's agent is going to demand a move if Luongo keeps getting more starts or overshadowing Schneider, despite what Botchford says
I could have told you guys that in the summer when Gillis PROMISED Schneider the job if he signed in spite of the fact Luongo hadnt been traded yet.

Schneider has eveyr right to be furious at Gillis but we cant get dry crap for Luongo. We need to move Cory.

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02-05-2013, 01:16 PM
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He was called up by radio hosts, it would have been more significant if he came out of no where and started complaining. And if you pay attention to the details, his discourse demonstrates that they both knew this would be a process that wasn't going to be rushed and there will be a resolution. I bet at this time next year, this will be meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
Are you implying that the interview wasn't arranged in advance? If so, I've got a bridge to sell you.

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This Mike Liut interview was obviously initiated by the station.

On Friday on the morning show, Ray Ferraro says "Mike Liut must be furious with this situation". Producer goes "Liut .... hmmmm".

Next thing you know you have the station interviewing Mike Liut. And Liut said nothing controversial. Yes, Cory wants to play. Yes, they would like him to get hte majority of the starts. Yes - they understand the situation and will have to be patient.

These guys are just manufacturing controversy.
Controversial, maybe not but helpful, no. You can't give certain quotes in an intwerview and expect all to be ok, or just be able to say I was misquoted, lol.

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There isn't anything to see though.
It's an agent's words being taken out of context.

Too many people don't like to acknowledge that media construes peoples' words to their own ends, but it DOES happen and it was proven to have happened here.

Move along now.
Explain how.

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Are you implying that the interview wasn't arranged in advance? If so, I've got a bridge to sell you.
Hahaha no, I mean it could be journalists looking for a story. His agent didn't really say anything that controversial anyways.
It's currently the biggest story in the NHL right now, media wants to capitalize.

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Cory best look in the mirror first. It comes down to winning and stopping the puck from entering the goal. If he does a better job of that then Luongo he will start more games.

You have to play the hot hand. Luongo played OK last night not as strong as previous starts. I say Cory gets the start and if he plays up to his capabilities he will get the next start too. If not, Luongo gets back in.

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Explain how.
Sure:
This is a quote TSN dutifully redacted in their article, "We are not going to get into the finger-pointing game and to that end you have to take a step back and you have to give them latitude to make a business decision.

Read the full article.

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Hahaha no, I mean it could be journalists looking for a story. His agent didn't really say anything that controversial anyways.
It's currently the biggest story in the NHL right now, media wants to capitalize.
Yeah yeah, we know.

The world hates the Canucks.

Toronto media conspiracy.

Anything else?

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