Listen I agree that Stock is false/lying and that Stubbs has better connections with the team (and especially Spacek, it seems). I also agree that Stubbs takes the "human interest" approach to everything he writes. And I also agree that he wouldn't start stuff with Stock if he wasn't sure of the reality in the lockerroom.
That doesn't mean that Stubbs is good at his job or that I care about the crap pieces he flushes out. It doesn't mean that Stubbs is a worthwhile journalist who reports the TRUTH instead of hiding behind the veil of "off-the-record" and alluding to a million things - that's just cowardice. That's him protecting his sorry 65k a year job and stay in the good graces of the Habs, brown-nosing the likes of Spacek and Darche for a minor scoop here and there.
Look at his sorry piece on Subban last week before PK signed. There was nothing of value there and he went out of his way to protect the organization and PK simultaneously. Why are you even reporting at this rate - to protect PK Subban? Is that his job? Is he the Dark Knight?
Don't know, but the possibility exists that he was taking a principled stand for something he believes in. sounds crazy but maybe
On the Puck Daddy podcast, Jeff Marek mentioned that the first major purchase PK made after signing his contract was a house. For his parents. The guy's got a good head on his shoulders. Can you even imagine the ensuing ****storm if he was ever arrested for a DUI like Pavelec? And don't even get me started on all the ridiculous Price rumours from a few years ago.
Subban is probably one of the most misunderstood player in the NHL (along with most Euros)...
Hockey is not a sport where personality is appreciated...you either have to conform, or they'll try to pick apart your character.
Jerk Store is in every Subban/Habs thread. He has an obvious hate for Subban and anything Habs related.
Well he's clearly NOT a Habs fan, so I don't understand why he gets such a long leash to **** with us. Then again that moron pj stock has a job analyzing hockey - who says anything has to make sense....
I just don't think it matters just one bit whether the players like or dislike one another. Lots of championship teams had all sorts of internal divisions. I want PK on the team because he's fun to watch and a good player. Guys like Gorges and Bullion a lot less so.
In a 30 team league I acknowledge that there's a good chance we won't see another Stanley Cup here in our lifetimes, so I'm okay with just being entertained and winning most games.
I don't find PJ Stock entertaining, he's a big downer, always trying to get a jab in at the Canadiens, so I'd like to see him axed. It's weird cuz he's from Montreal too and was given his opening in sports media here as well.
Here's my rankings of Habs journalists from best to worst. 1-Mike Farber 2-Mitchell Melnik 3-Don Cherry 4-Tony Marino 5- PJ Stock. Uh, that's all I can think of.
I dislike Marinaro because he went on way too much about Cammalleri being better than Bourque, something that shows some ethnic bias. Plus the soccer thing.
read half the thread, bottom line for me is PK is gonna play and earn that respect with his mouth shut. guy comes back from a nice off season having fun on tv and training, enjoying things...bam 2 points in 2 games business as usual and playing like he was there since game 1.
the only smoke is from PK putting out the hot embers that were being blown on by the media.
also, can't we all just get on twitter and call PJ out for being the **** for brains hack rodent face that he is?
Personally I think the CBC is trying to find a replacement for Don Cherry who isn't going to live forever. Milbury was the first attempt and it failed. PJ is the next attempt and it is a bigger fail. Cherry is blunt, and has opinions that are extreme but at the same time he has a softy almost classy side.
Bottom line; There's just way too much talk and drama about PK, both in the media in among this fanbase. Let the kid learn, play, and go from there. You'd expect this city to have learned from the failures of the past...
Guys like Stubbs in that case are as guilty as Stock. Let the stories die, let PK play, let the Habs benefit. Is it that complicated?
Truth is nobody knows who's right or wrong. I agree with Stock that Stubbs is a big homer. I've been of the opinion that Subban is a bit of a cancer in the room for quite some time, based on some things I've seen and other things that have been said. Usually, where there's smoke, there's fire.
Sloppy words, execrable thinking. There's no such thing as "a bit of a cancer." Your opinion is based on some things you've seen and some things you've heard. Do you expect any one to think, "Oh, it must be true if Jerk Store thinks so."
For the sake of argument, let's assume that you're guilty of no more than exaggeration. I imagine that once Bergevin became GM he would have heard those "things." If they were as serious as you intimate, he would have considered trading Subban because the return from several other teams would have been substantial.
What's my opinion of Subban based on what I've heard? That he can be obnoxious and greedy? He wouldn't be the only NHL player called that. His willingness to remain with the Habs at a salary far to the south of Doughty's suggests that his relations with his teammates aren't as dreadful as those of Grabovski, for example. If he's involved in an off-ice scandal it can't be of the same magnitude as José Théodore's family's affairs or whatever Mike Ribeiro did to make him toxic to Bob Gainey.
So please back off unless you provide facts. Your credibility right now reminds me of a stain that remains in a toilet bowl even after flushing.