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02-05-2013, 03:35 PM
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So I guess when a player proves his call up worthiness by playing hard and working hard, he does not deserve a call up to the bigs for a look? Because he does not fit the ever desired specifications of size and weight? Because if he is not 6'2" and 210 lbs he is not worthy of coming up for the big club to see what he can contribute?

OK then. Good call.

I can't wait to see what Arcobello can do up here.
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02-05-2013, 03:36 PM
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Smyth and Petrell looked better as of late, but even if it is to carry a line. If he can continue to produce it gives us options.
What message does it send to demote the guy who has probably played better than any other forward on our team, and appears to have chemistry with Yakupov? If anything, Gagner should be promoted to the top line with Hall/Eberle. Putting Gagner between Smyth and Petrell is pretty much saying "hey Gags, nice point streak you got going there, now we'd like you to stop doing all this and go back to being a 0.6 ppg player".

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02-05-2013, 03:39 PM
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What message does it send to demote the guy who has probably played better than any other forward on our team, and appears to have chemistry with Yakupov? If anything, Gagner should be promoted to the top line with Hall/Eberle. Putting Gagner between Smyth and Petrell is pretty much saying "hey Gags, nice point streak you got going there, now we'd like you to stop doing all this and go back to being a 0.6 ppg player".
This! The only way Gags is moving in the lineup right now is up

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02-05-2013, 03:44 PM
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People demoting RNH to the third line in favor of Arcobello. Unbelievable.
No doubt.

I have no problem with Arcobello getting the call. He was named to the AHL All-Star Game and has been playing well in OKC this year. But I just can't see him being called up to play on the top line. Smart money is on him being the #4 guy until we either get Belanger back or trade for someone more proven (in other words...until Belanger gets back).

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02-05-2013, 03:53 PM
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Can you say Toby Peterson, what a waste, just what we need another smurf in the line up...
My guess is you are unaware of his history!

He was a .70+ PPG center @ 18 in NCAA

Khaira 2012 RD2 #63
Coyle 2010 RD1 #28
Bjugstad 2010 1 #19
L. Leblanc 2009 RD1 #18
Schroeder 2009 RD1 #22
D. Stepan 2008 RD2 #51
Turris 2007 Rd1 #3
C. Wilson 2007 RD1 #7
T. J. Galliardi 2007 RD2 #55
Toews 2006 RD1 #3
Matsamotto 2006 RD3 #79
Arcabello UDFA
T.J. Hensick 2005 RD3 #88
R. Kesler 2002 RD1 #23

Plus he was .8-.95PPG in AHL @22.
N. Kadri 2009 RD1 #7
P.Holland 2009 Rd1 #15
C. Hodgson 2008 RD1 #10
Z. Boychuck 2008 Rd1 #14
N. Bonino 2007 RD6 #173
C. Conacher UDFA
Z. Dalpe 2008 RD2 #45
D. Desharnais UDFA
M. Perreault RD6 #177

While you may believe in your hockey insight.

I prefer to look at trending versus hockey peers.
It shows a different picture.

For the guy who said 4th line Center. You made my Day.

Common sense says you play him with guys he played with in OKC.


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02-05-2013, 04:19 PM
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People demoting RNH to the third line in favor of Arcobello. Unbelievable.
You clearly don't get it. Krueger likes to role 4 lines. Pretty hard to role 4 lines when your bottom 6 has two AHL centers in it. Gagner isn't the one struggling here. Nuge needs to find his game and maybe playing with a couple guys who can create room for him will spark him. That's it.

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02-05-2013, 04:30 PM
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You clearly don't get it. Krueger likes to role 4 lines. Pretty hard to role 4 lines when your bottom 6 has two AHL centers in it. Gagner isn't the one struggling here. Nuge needs to find his game and maybe playing with a couple guys who can create room for him will spark him. That's it.
Nuge's game is fine. Despite the score sheet he's been substantially better than Gagner.

Sometimes the puck just doesn't go in, sometimes a ref blows it and calls one back, sometimes the goalie makes a tremendous save. Over the short term it happens, in the long term players that generate lots of chances (like Nuge has been) will put up points.

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People demoting RNH to the third line in favor of Arcobello. Unbelievable.
Yup, my eyes bugged out a bit when I saw that too.

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Can you say Toby Peterson, what a waste, just what we need another smurf in the line up...
I recall a fair amount of posters on here said that RNH was too small in his first year too.

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Nuge's game is fine. Despite the score sheet he's been substantially better than Gagner.

Sometimes the puck just doesn't go in, sometimes a ref blows it and calls one back, sometimes the goalie makes a tremendous save. Over the short term it happens, in the long term players that generate lots of chances (like Nuge has been) will put up points.
Wow, you must not be watching the right games. Are you watching replays of last year or something? Nuge is fighting the puck bad, and he looks like he's hurt. Gagner while not as good defensively has been all over other teams defenses so far this year. I wouldn't mind seeing Gagner go to the first line. Arcobello should at the best though be centering the third line.

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02-05-2013, 04:59 PM
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Wow, you must not be watching the right games. Are you watching replays of last year or something? Nuge is fighting the puck bad, and he looks like he's hurt. Gagner while not as good defensively has been all over other teams defenses so far this year. I wouldn't mind seeing Gagner go to the first line. Arcobello should at the best though be centering the third line.
no sorry man, i disagree, RNH has probably had the most chances out of anyone in our lineup so far. He's just not finishing. He doesn't look like hes playing injured to me. Not to mention, his defensive game is completely at another level than it was last year, hes looking like a great 2 way player.

last night was the first time I thought he played poorly, but that was one game.

But i do agree he and sam should switch. maybe put sam eberle and yakupov

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02-05-2013, 05:12 PM
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I actually think the entire line of Hall-Nuge-Eberle is on the verge of putting up serious numbers on a nightly basis. There seem to be a lot of plays every game that are a bad bounce or a slightly off pass away from being great scoring opportunities. That's not to say they aren't getting chances, but as soon as the puck starts bouncing right for them, they're going to get a whole lot more. Maybe they're gripping their sticks too much, or maybe it's just bad luck, but they're almost there.

I don't think a game or two appart is a bad idea, just as long as it's not a permanent thing. They're on the verge of being a great line. It doesn't seem like a chemistry issue to me, but sometimes you need a bit of a reset.

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02-05-2013, 05:25 PM
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What message does it send to demote the guy who has probably played better than any other forward on our team, and appears to have chemistry with Yakupov? If anything, Gagner should be promoted to the top line with Hall/Eberle. Putting Gagner between Smyth and Petrell is pretty much saying "hey Gags, nice point streak you got going there, now we'd like you to stop doing all this and go back to being a 0.6 ppg player".
Exactly. With a side dish of "hey Gagner, WTF you doing being over PPG? We just gave you a one year contract and now have to renegotiate, so enjoy playing with 3rd line for awhile, sucks to be you, haha."

What a clown outfit this org is. A player is successful and its time to demote. Quick!

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May as well do a total shakeup, and move Yakupov back to the right side. He looks more comfortable over there. This is what I'd personally do:

Hall-Arcobello-Eberle
Paajarvi/Hartikainen-Hopkins-Yakupov
Smyth-Gagner-Hemsky
Hartikainen/Paajarvi-Lander-Petrell

That's just me though.

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Should have just put Smytty at #3C. He's played some center before.

Would allow you to keep Paajarvi up with Eager coming back.

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Yakupov-Gagner-Hemsky
Eager-Smyth-Petrell
Harski-Lander-Paajarvi


Doesn't look great, but looks better than anything with Arcobello.

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We should put Gagner on the 2nd line, and use the ocean of tears that follows to help those without a clean source of water.

Thoughts?

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I haven't seen much of Arcobello but he seems like kind of a Liam Reddox type.

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I haven't seen much of Arcobello but he seems like kind of a Liam Reddox type.
They're both small. That's pretty much where the similarities end.

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Exactly. With a side dish of "hey Gagner, WTF you doing being over PPG? We just gave you a one year contract and now have to renegotiate, so enjoy playing with 3rd line for awhile, sucks to be you, haha."

What a clown outfit this org is. A player is successful and its time to demote. Quick!
Where did the organization state that Gagne was being demoted?

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My guess is you are unaware of his history!

He was a .70+ PPG center @ 18 in NCAA

Khaira 2012 RD2 #63
Coyle 2010 RD1 #28
Bjugstad 2010 1 #19
L. Leblanc 2009 RD1 #18
Schroeder 2009 RD1 #22
D. Stepan 2008 RD2 #51
Turris 2007 Rd1 #3
C. Wilson 2007 RD1 #7
T. J. Galliardi 2007 RD2 #55
Toews 2006 RD1 #3
Matsamotto 2006 RD3 #79
Arcabello UDFA
T.J. Hensick 2005 RD3 #88
R. Kesler 2002 RD1 #23

Plus he was .8-.95PPG in AHL @22.
N. Kadri 2009 RD1 #7
P.Holland 2009 Rd1 #15
C. Hodgson 2008 RD1 #10
Z. Boychuck 2008 Rd1 #14
N. Bonino 2007 RD6 #173
C. Conacher UDFA
Z. Dalpe 2008 RD2 #45
D. Desharnais UDFA
M. Perreault RD6 #177

While you may believe in your hockey insight.

I prefer to look at trending versus hockey peers.
It shows a different picture.

For the guy who said 4th line Center. You made my Day.

Common sense says you play him with guys he played with in OKC.
So, for posterity sakes, who should Arcobello be playing with??

Because you seem to be saying that you just proved that Acrobello should be a first line center starting tomorrow.

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Should have just put Smytty at #3C. He's played some center before.

Would allow you to keep Paajarvi up with Eager coming back.

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Yakupov-Gagner-Hemsky
Eager-Smyth-Petrell
Harski-Lander-Paajarvi


Doesn't look great, but looks better than anything with Arcobello.
i think it works if all you're considering is face-offs, but when it comes to defensive zone coverage Smyth would have a hard time keeping up and being effective.

that said, i don't think he is getting the recognition he deserves for his PKing and his overall puck sense. he has been very good at reading plays and making sure that the puck gets deep when he gets it.

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So, for posterity sakes, who should Arcobello be playing with??

Because you seem to be saying that you just proved that Acrobello should be a first line center starting tomorrow.
Hm. He's right. Lock him up, 5 years 30 million. He's converted me.

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Hm. He's right. Lock him up, 5 years 30 million. He's converted me.
And trade Nuge, of course...

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Where did the organization state that Gagne was being demoted?
Nowhere man. Nowhere.

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