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02-01-2013, 08:47 PM
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People who are changing their lists 6 games into the season are delusional. The order should be the exact as back in June.
Yeah, nope.

Some guys might not have had their stock change much, but pretty clearly some guys have elevated themselves substantially (Trouba) while others have done the exact opposite (Dumba).

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02-01-2013, 08:53 PM
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The best 3 players from this draft will be Yakupov, Galchenyuk and Grigorenko. Which order they will be in remains to be seen.

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02-01-2013, 08:58 PM
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The best 3 players from this draft will be Yakupov, Galchenyuk and Grigorenko. Which order they will be in remains to be seen.
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02-01-2013, 09:20 PM
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What has Grigorenko done to cement himself as the 3rd best player in this draft already? 2 points in 7 NHL games, nothing spectacular there. I'm not saying he isn't good, but I don't understand how people just jumped him over 10 other guys who were taken ahead of him not even 1 year ago.

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I would not pick Yakupov over Galchenyuk today. Why?
1-I'm biased (I'm a Habs fan)
2-I prefer an all-round player to a pure sniper
3-We already have enough drama with PK's celebrations in Montreal... I'm not sure how Yakupov would have fit in the mix...

But I understand many posters (the vast majority?) would pick Yakupov, as some of his goals have been impressive. And he's proving as dominant as billed...

I was so impressed with Trouba at the WJC that he would rank much higher in my list... I'd also rank Rielly pretty high... Grigorenko would certainly leap over some of the 8 Ds picked in the Top-10...

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02-01-2013, 10:24 PM
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The best 3 players from this draft will be Yakupov, Galchenyuk and Grigorenko. Which order they will be in remains to be seen.
Sorry, but I would argue that they may be the best 3 forwards from the draft, not necessary the best 3 best players. If guys like Rielly, Trouba and Rienhart become #1 d-man how many points will the above 3 need to have to be considered better players?

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Those who "defenetely would take Seguin over Hall": Lets say Hall remains injury-free from now on, who can you not take the guy with such dynamic and powerful skating, combined with the instincts he has?


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02-05-2013, 02:11 PM
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I dont know how anyone can take Dumba in the top 10.

I seriously think he is going to be a massive bust.

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02-05-2013, 02:44 PM
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I dont know how anyone can take Dumba in the top 10.

I seriously think he is going to be a massive bust.
I don't know about massive bust, he does have a lot of good things going for him...but he's definately a hard prospect to project at this point. I could see him taking a few years to put it together then making a big splash when he's around 22.

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02-05-2013, 02:50 PM
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If Prospect A > B in offence.

Laws of HFboards say

Prospect B > A in defence.

Taylor vs Tyler
RNH vs Landeskog
and now
Yak vs Yuk

look forward to years of hearing how Galchenyuk is becoming a defensive stalwart.

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02-05-2013, 02:51 PM
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What has Grigorenko done to cement himself as the 3rd best player in this draft already? 2 points in 7 NHL games, nothing spectacular there. I'm not saying he isn't good, but I don't understand how people just jumped him over 10 other guys who were taken ahead of him not even 1 year ago.
Nobody has cemented any kind of position, but Grigs has certainly shown that he deserved to be drafted much higher than 12...you wouldn't take any of the following players over Grigs?

Murray
Reinhart
Rielly
Lindholm
Dumba
Pouliot
Trouba
Koekkoek

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02-05-2013, 02:53 PM
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If Prospect A > B in offence.

Laws of HFboards say

Prospect B > A in defence.

Taylor vs Tyler
RNH vs Landeskog
and now
Yak vs Yuk

look forward to years of hearing how Galchenyuk is becoming a defensive stalwart.
No offense but it's true in all 3 examples you provided...at least imho.

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lol Trouba making peoples top 5 only cause he had a good world juniors lol. HF is so laughable.

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lol Trouba making peoples top 5 only cause he had a good world juniors lol. HF is so laughable.

Yup, 17 points in 25 games rookie season NCAA is so laughable.

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Yup, 17 points in 25 games rookie season NCAA is so laughable.
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I would not pick Yakupov over Galchenyuk today. Why?
1-I'm biased (I'm a Habs fan)
2-I prefer an all-round player to a pure sniper
3-We already have enough drama with PK's celebrations in Montreal... I'm not sure how Yakupov would have fit in the mix...

But I understand many posters (the vast majority?) would pick Yakupov, as some of his goals have been impressive. And he's proving as dominant as billed...

I was so impressed with Trouba at the WJC that he would rank much higher in my list... I'd also rank Rielly pretty high... Grigorenko would certainly leap over some of the 8 Ds picked in the Top-10...
Sorry, Gally is my favorite 2012 player behind Trouba and I'd still pick Yakupov right now.

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lol Trouba making peoples top 5 only cause he had a good world juniors lol. HF is so laughable.
Trouba did not only had a good WJC, he also is having a more then impressive Rookie Seson in the NCAA

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02-05-2013, 06:52 PM
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If Prospect A > B in offence.

Laws of HFboards say

Prospect B > A in defence.

Taylor vs Tyler
RNH vs Landeskog
and now
Yak vs Yuk

look forward to years of hearing how Galchenyuk is becoming a defensive stalwart.
Looking forward to years of hearing how Yakupov is a better defensive player than Galchenyuk

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What has Grigorenko done to cement himself as the 3rd best player in this draft already? 2 points in 7 NHL games, nothing spectacular there. I'm not saying he isn't good, but I don't understand how people just jumped him over 10 other guys who were taken ahead of him not even 1 year ago.
Basically it is people who saw Couturier drop in the draft and then have an impressive year so they all want to be "that guy" who called Grigorenko having a similar "fall and rise". That is it entirely because his play in the NHL hasn't been jaw dropping.

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02-05-2013, 07:59 PM
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Habs fan here:

I don't think Galchenyuk has outplayed Yakupov substantially, if at all this year. However, making the pick today, I'd pick Galchenyuk. I think Galchenyuk will produce similarly to Yakupov, but he is a center, and I luh dem centers. I was for Seguin in 2010, and am for Seguin today, for example.

The same logic that leads hfboards to say that if someone has great offense, they must have bad defense applies to any prospect given the descriptor "two-way." Galchenyuk was seen as a "two way" forward, and everyone said "70 point upside." 70 points is a very good player, but if Galchenyuk has shown anything since September, it's that perhaps we should sit back and let him decide just what kind of "upside" he has.

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02-05-2013, 10:02 PM
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Yeah, every 1st overall always turns out to be the best player in the draft, right? Or you just have a super legit crystal ball?
LOL assuming the clear number 1 stays number 1 is more accurate then judging players on six NHL games. Realistically Nail and Galchenyuk both were dominant during the lockout.... only problem is Nail did it in the KHL which was the best league at the time.

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why does ever one have reinhart so low?

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why does ever one have reinhart so low?
Oh great, the resident embarrassing to isles fans poster is here to save the day.

He's lower because he hasn't elevated his game since being drafted, and other players have.

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Give me Trouba or Lindholm over Dumba.
Ditto.

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Yakupov
Reinhart
Reilly
Galychenuk
Murray


And why do people keep saying Seguin is a centre? When was he a centre in the NHL? Hall over Seguin everyday, all day.

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Out of curiosity, why is Lindholm is people's top ten? Has he been particularly impressive in the AHL?

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