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02-05-2013, 09:30 PM
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Hiller to Toronto

I believe Anaheim has some of he best goaltending depth in the league with Fasth, Andersen & Gibson all behind Hiller. If the coaching staff believes in a Fath / Andersen combo going forward, I think sending Hiller to the Leafs makes a tonne of sense. He's got one year left at $4.5 and is liked by Carlyle.

What would it take?
Anaheim could lose Selanne, Koivu, Getzlaf and Perry next year.

I propose Kessel for Hiller straight up.

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02-05-2013, 09:31 PM
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Kessel for Hiller is highway robbery for the Ducks.

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That tandem has a combined 3 NHL games.

Lets see what Fasth does over a couple seasons once NHL Teams get their own scouts on him before we declare him ready as the #1.

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Kessel for Hiller is highway robbery for the Ducks.
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Kessel for Hiller is highway robbery for the Ducks.
Hiller is an elite goaltender. Kessel is an elite winger. Both UFA in the same year, Kessel makes $1million more.

Both fill needs on either team. Give and take, no?

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Hiller is an elite goaltender. Kessel is an elite winger. Both UFA in the same year, Kessel makes $1million more.

Both fill needs on either team. Give and take, no?
Hiller is an average-to-good goaltender. Not elite by any measuring stick.

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I believe Anaheim has some of he best goaltending depth in the league with Fasth, Andersen & Gibson all behind Hiller. If the coaching staff believes in a Fath / Andersen combo going forward, I think sending Hiller to the Leafs makes a tonne of sense. He's got one year left at $4.5 and is liked by Carlyle.

What would it take?
Anaheim could lose Selanne, Koivu, Getzlaf and Perry next year.

I propose Kessel for Hiller straight up.
I know Kessel is off to a bad start but Hiller is not worth a guy with 4 stright 30 goal years

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That tandem has a combined 3 NHL games.

Lets see what Fasth does over a couple seasons once NHL Teams get their own scouts on him before we declare him ready as the #1.
River boat gambling to a degree, but if you can get a great asset for Hiller now you have to at least consider it.

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Reimer has been tremendous.

Add Ryan to that deal. That's just insulting.

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Hiller is an elite goaltender. Kessel is an elite winger. Both UFA in the same year, Kessel makes $1million more.

Both fill needs on either team. Give and take, no?
it does fill a need but creates an even bigger hole making it useless

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I believe Anaheim has some of he best goaltending depth in the league with Fasth, Andersen & Gibson all behind Hiller. If the coaching staff believes in a Fath / Andersen combo going forward, I think sending Hiller to the Leafs makes a tonne of sense. He's got one year left at $4.5 and is liked by Carlyle.

What would it take?
Anaheim could lose Selanne, Koivu, Getzlaf and Perry next year.

I propose Kessel for Hiller straight up.
I don't think Toronto would make that deal, but even so the Ducks have no interest in moving Hiller right now. Fasth has played well, but the sample size is ridiculously small, and that just isn't a chance I'd be willing to take right now.

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I know Kessel is off to a bad start but Hiller is not worth a guy with 4 stright 30 goal years
I would say that is the going rate for a legitimate #1 starting goalie. Hiller is in the same company as Rinne and Price. Great stats, good playoff experience, just hasn't won yet.

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Reimer has been tremendous.

Add Ryan to that deal. That's just insulting.
...you want Hiller and Ryan for Kessel? You just went from one extreme to the other.

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River boat gambling to a degree, but if you can get a great asset for Hiller now you have to at least consider it.
i would do this. lol

kessel for hiller? easy yes

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...you want Hiller and Ryan for Kessel? You just went from one extreme to the other.
I meant with the Reimer swap as well.

No point in having 2 #1s

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I admit I clicked on this fully expecting it to be one of the usual Reimer+MacArthur+Holzer type of offers, but that is not good for the Leafs at all. Unless they are actively shopping Kessel and even then they could get something significant added to Hiller.

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I believe Anaheim has some of he best goaltending depth in the league with Fasth, Andersen & Gibson all behind Hiller. If the coaching staff believes in a Fath / Andersen combo going forward, I think sending Hiller to the Leafs makes a tonne of sense. He's got one year left at $4.5 and is liked by Carlyle.

What would it take?
Anaheim could lose Selanne, Koivu, Getzlaf and Perry next year.

I propose Kessel for Hiller straight up.
A trade like this could set the Leafs back another 3 years. Reimer has been fine for now. No need to overreact.

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I meant with the Reimer swap as well.

No point in having 2 #1s
Oh, yeah. Okay, that's different. I really don't think this deal makes sense for either team though. It just seems like more a lateral move for both teams. And the original proposal is just downright unfair for Toronto.

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I like Kessel, solid 25-35 goal scorer who would be great in any teams top 6. but i really feel that the under rating of Hiller here smacks of Eastern bias. Hiller is top 5-8 goalies in the world right now.

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I would say that is the going rate for a legitimate #1 starting goalie. Hiller is in the same company as Rinne and Price. Great stats, good playoff experience, just hasn't won yet.
so Halak was worth Eller but Hiller is worth Kessel? as for Hiller being as good as price and Rinne I'd like you to prove that cause that statement is simply not true

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Big no thanks from the Leafs. Reimer has been great thus far. Regained his good form from two years ago.

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I like Kessel, solid 25-35 goal scorer who would be great in any teams top 6. but i really feel that the under rating of Hiller here smacks of Eastern bias. Hiller is top 5-8 goalies in the world right now.
I think you're underrating Kessel here. He was pretty terrific for Toronto last season, and just seems a little snakebit to start the season.

Also, while I think Hiller is a very good goaltender, I don't think he's been quite as sharp since his vertigo issue. Oh, he'll get better as the season moves on(he always does), but he really hasn't been able to consistently play at the level he was at prior to the vertigo.

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Oh, yeah. Okay, that's different. I really don't think this deal makes sense for either team though. It just seems like more a lateral move for both teams. And the original proposal is just downright unfair for Toronto.
Yup I agree, I don't see any deals between our two teams.


Unless its for Getz or Perry
I wish haha

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ducks will trade fasth before hiller. If hiller regains form i would not be surprised at all with the ducks dealing fasth at the deadline.

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so halak was worth eller but hiller is worth kessel? As for hiller being as good as price and rinne i'd like you to prove that cause that statement is simply not true
Hiller
2010-2011 ducks 49 26 16 - 3 5 114 1,493 .924 2.56 2,672
2011-2012 ducks 73 29 30 - 12 4 182 2,021 .910 2.57 4,253
2012-2013 ducks 5 3 1 - 1 0 18 140 .871 3.54 305

Price
2010-2011 canadiens 72 38 28 - 6 8 165 2,147 .923 2.35 4,206
2011-2012 canadiens 65 26 28 - 11 4 160 1,914 .916 2.43 3,944
2012-2013 canadiens 7 6 1 - 0 0 12 195 .938 1.70 423

Rinne

2010-2011 PREDATORS 64 33 22 - 9 6 134 1,905 .930 2.12 3,789
2011-2012 PREDATORS 73 43 18 - 8 5 166 2,153 .923 2.39 4,169
2012-2013 PREDATORS 7 2 2 - 3 0 16 189 .915 2.16 444

Pretty damn close. BTW Halak hd not been a starter for half a season never mind 2+ like Hiller.

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