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02-06-2013, 12:54 AM
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According to a news article did CSKA Moscow (the only team that interested Omark)show interest all through the summer but Omark decided to wait for a NHL offer and the lockout. When the lockout was a fact the team already had 5 foreigners and therefore he decided to sign for EV Zug.

He also wanted a home for him and his gf. Something that he hadn't had for the last two years.

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Omark, MPS, a second pick would make a great trade for a number 1 deffender.

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Omark, MPS, a second pick would make a great trade for a number 1 deffender.
I like Omark, I really wish we had given him another chance. However, the only number one defender we can get for a package like that is Ryan Whitney.

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I like Omark, I really wish we had given him another chance. However, the only number one defender we can get for a package like that is Ryan Whitney.
Than trade the first pick instead or change MPS for it. Oilers dont need more inexperience in the team.

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02-06-2013, 09:55 AM
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Than trade the first pick instead or change MPS for it. Oilers dont need more inexperience in the team.
And neither do other teams. They'll keep their more valuable defenceman.

The book is out on Paajarvi and Omark. You're not going to pull off a flea market trade for a useful piece now.

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And neither do other teams. They'll keep their more valuable defenceman.

The book is out on Paajarvi and Omark. You're not going to pull off a flea market trade for a useful piece now.
I am sure there are teams that wouldnt mind having those picks.

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Omark, MPS, a second pick would make a great trade for a number 1 deffender.
Not sure if serious?

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I think it's worth mentioning that unless Omark is involved as the 2nd or 3rd piece of a trade he isn't going anywhere. Players in Europe have to clear waivers now in order to play in the NHL, so no real reason to acquire him at this point.

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Omark, MPS, a second pick would make a great trade for a number 1 deffender.
A great trade for us, yeah.

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Nice to see Omark doing so good. Playing an important role in a team is good for his development. Hope he managed to get a bit faster, more durable and improved his shot. The lack of speed was his biggest issue together with his flat defensive play.

Always fun to watch though!!! =)

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34GP 13G 33A 46Pts with Brunner
10GP 3G 11A 16Pts without Brunner

44GP 16G 44A 62Pts Overall


Damian Brunner
33GP 25G 32A 57Pts with Zug
14GP 6G 4A 10Pts with Detroit

Great start to an NHL career for an undrafted kid. If Omark wants to get noticed by NHL teams, he should probably try to pot a few more goals. Things don't look so good for him right now.

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02-17-2013, 05:16 AM
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34GP 13G 33A 46Pts with Brunner
10GP 3G 11A 16Pts without Brunner

44GP 16G 44A 62Pts Overall


Damian Brunner
33GP 25G 32A 57Pts with Zug
14GP 6G 4A 10Pts with Detroit

Great start to an NHL career for an undrafted kid. If Omark wants to get noticed by NHL teams, he should probably try to pot a few more goals. Things don't look so good for him right now.
Omark had 3A last game and is now:
GP 45 G 16 A 49 with 65pts

Below is top 15 point per games players this year in NLA according to Eliteprospects. While Omark would do better to score more goals for sure, he has done more than ok in NLA together with the NHL pros.

1. Damien Brunner (RW) 1.73
2. John Tavares (C) 1.50
3. Linus Omark (LW/RW) 1.44
4. Henrik Zetterberg (C/LW) Zug 1.39
5. Patrice Bergeron (C) Lugano 1.38
6. Tyler Seguin (C/RW) Biel 1.38
7. Glen Metropolit (C/RW) 1.33
8. Matt Duchene (C/LW) 1.25
9. Ryan MacMurchy (RW) 1.17
10. Patrick Kane (RW) 1.15 .
11. Byron Ritchie (C) 1.12
12. Joe Thornton (C) 1.09
13. Jason Spezza (C) 1.07
14. Rick Nash (LW/RW) 1.06
15. Logan Couture (C/LW) 1.05


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Omark had 3A last game and is now:
GP 45 G 16 A 49 with 65pts

Below is top 15 point per games players this year in NLA according to Eliteprospects. While Omark would do better to score more goals for sure, he has done more than ok in NLA together with the NHL pros.

1. Damien Brunner (RW) 1.73
2. John Tavares (C) 1.50
3. Linus Omark (LW/RW) 1.44
4. Henrik Zetterberg (C/LW) Zug 1.39
5. Patrice Bergeron (C) Lugano 1.38
6. Tyler Seguin (C/RW) Biel 1.38
7. Glen Metropolit (C/RW) 1.33
8. Matt Duchene (C/LW) 1.25
9. Ryan MacMurchy (RW) 1.17
10. Patrick Kane (RW) 1.15 .
11. Byron Ritchie (C) 1.12
12. Joe Thornton (C) 1.09
13. Jason Spezza (C) 1.07
14. Rick Nash (LW/RW) 1.06
15. Logan Couture (C/LW) 1.05
I doubt any GMs are comparing stats between "My career's on the line" Omark and "Yawn, shouldn't have drank so much" NHL regulars. Since Omark's Pts/GP stats are assist-heavy, they're basically worthless. You don't make noise by piling up apples in an inferior league. I think he's making himself a nice nest in Europe at this rate. He'll make good money as a big fish in a small pond.

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02-18-2013, 02:24 AM
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Since Omark's Pts/GP stats are assist-heavy, they're basically worthless.
Ok, to be fair your previous posts did set a very low standards on you opinions, but this? Seriously? /facepalm
I have heard that Wayne's stats also are assist-heavy...


And oh.. Linus was 0+3 in the last game...

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02-18-2013, 03:51 AM
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Ok, to be fair your previous posts did set a very low standards on you opinions, but this? Seriously? /facepalm
I have heard that Wayne's stats also are assist-heavy...


And oh.. Linus was 0+3 in the last game...
Sorry man, the Swiss league just isn't a proving ground for ex-NHLers to earn that return ticket to the big league. In fact, I could probably name many dozens of once-NHLers whose careers ended (or will end) comfortably in Switzerland. I can't think of even one player who went from the NHL to Swiss-A and back to the NHL without special circumstances (ie. the lockout). Can you?

I find Brunner to be a very special player. He might end up being the greatest player the Swiss league has produced. Omark, however...let's be realistic. He's facing some long odds, and he's not doing what he should be to earn the recall. He is, however, setting himself up for a healthy Euro career.

I know you're just being indignant with the Gretzky comment. He obviously scored 92 goals in a season before doing his 163 assist season, I'm sure you know that. I remember being every bit as defensive about Wayne back in the early 80s as a child as you are about Omark now.

The lesson being: Pick your battles wisely.

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02-18-2013, 04:18 AM
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I doubt any GMs are comparing stats between "My career's on the line" Omark and "Yawn, shouldn't have drank so much" NHL regulars. Since Omark's Pts/GP stats are assist-heavy, they're basically worthless. You don't make noise by piling up apples in an inferior league. I think he's making himself a nice nest in Europe at this rate. He'll make good money as a big fish in a small pond.
It worked out well for Brunner.

Omark is 0.36 GPG, I wouldn't call that bad at all for a player like him who is more of a set-up player. Brunner was 0.49, 0.48 and 0.53 GPG the last three seasons. Since Omark arrived with useless assists he went on a 0.76 GPG pace... Note that Brunner was already set to come over so it was not his stats from this year that sealed the deal. It was the stats from previous seasons where he peaked at about 1.3 PPG.

Of course Omark game in NLA is getting attention. NHL teams always notice older players who are putting up big numbers in the European leagues. The question with regards to these kind of players are whether they are willing to accept the conditions of a potential contract which is generally short-term, 2-way. Several decline due to the fact that they can't get a one-way contract.

There are obviously no certainties but I think he'll get another chance in the NHL sooner rather than later. That said, he will not get anything for free if the opportunity presents itself. Everyone knows how it went for him here and I don't think that he will get much time to prove himself in whichever other team he might play for.

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Even if I consider myself a real Omark fan I'm not sure if the NHL is the right place for him. Sure I think it is a possibility that he with the club at the right time can manage a 60 point season but.. That’s really a long shot and includes top 6 time. I rather see him carving out a elite KHL carreer for years to come and maybe play for Sweden in the Worlds or Olympics.

Regarding the Swiss league I think it was a wise choice by him. He needed to play in a top role and find his way back to his old game. Another aspect is that the Swiss league today in my mind is on par with the SEL and Finnish league and has more focus on the offensive aspects of the game compared to the Swedish for example.
If he had chosen the SEL that would have harmed his development imo.

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I doubt any GMs are comparing stats between "My career's on the line" Omark and "Yawn, shouldn't have drank so much" NHL regulars. Since Omark's Pts/GP stats are assist-heavy, they're basically worthless. You don't make noise by piling up apples in an inferior league. I think he's making himself a nice nest in Europe at this rate. He'll make good money as a big fish in a small pond.
Yeah, im sure NA players are all unprofessional and non-competitive if you say so.

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Yeah, im sure NA players are all unprofessional and non-competitive if you say so.
PD is right...I question their motivation as well. I'm sure most did it to stay in game shape playing competitive hockey. But the NHL game is drastically different so some comparisons are far fetched.

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PD is right...I question their motivation as well. I'm sure most did it to stay in game shape playing competitive hockey. But the NHL game is drastically different so some comparisons are far fetched.
Have you ever met anyone who is at top of his or her "game" without being extremely competitive as a person? I think your assumption shows why you arent at the top of any game...

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Omark had 3A last game and is now:
GP 45 G 16 A 49 with 65pts

Below is top 15 point per games players this year in NLA according to Eliteprospects. While Omark would do better to score more goals for sure, he has done more than ok in NLA together with the NHL pros.

1. Damien Brunner (RW) 1.73
2. John Tavares (C) 1.50
3. Linus Omark (LW/RW) 1.44
4. Henrik Zetterberg (C/LW) Zug 1.39
5. Patrice Bergeron (C) Lugano 1.38
6. Tyler Seguin (C/RW) Biel 1.38
7. Glen Metropolit (C/RW) 1.33
8. Matt Duchene (C/LW) 1.25
9. Ryan MacMurchy (RW) 1.17
10. Patrick Kane (RW) 1.15 .
11. Byron Ritchie (C) 1.12
12. Joe Thornton (C) 1.09
13. Jason Spezza (C) 1.07
14. Rick Nash (LW/RW) 1.06
15. Logan Couture (C/LW) 1.05
How is it relevant what Omark is doing in relation to NHL players that played limited sample there(and could care less)? You think this has any bearing on how Omark would do again on this side of the pond?

What you've established is that Omark had better ppg stats then some NHL players over on holidays in Europe seeing the sights. Congrats.

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Yeah, im sure NA players are all unprofessional and non-competitive if you say so.
Professional in this sense OBVIOUSLY meaning they are prepared to play for the teams that pay them millions in the NHL. Not some warm up club that they would consider the minors and where they are only playing to stay in shape for an NHL season.

What really would be the point of Joe Thornton busting his butt in Switzerland. Would he be more, or less professional in this sense doing so? How about this, if Thornton DID play in Swiss league like his life depended on it, play +20mins/night, pack equipment, drive zamboni, and ended up exhausted would he be more professional?

Any NHL player over in Europe would be pacing it out and not expending too much energy because they all know how much reserves it takes to win the biggest prize in hockey over here.

No Stanley Cups were ever won playing swiss league hockey as far as I can discern..

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Have you ever met anyone who is at top of his or her "game" without being extremely competitive as a person? I think your assumption shows why you arent at the top of any game...
Lol...when logic fails?

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