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02-05-2013, 11:16 PM
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2013 NHL draft lacks depth of talent
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/2013-nh...0848--nhl.html
You literally post this every year.

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02-05-2013, 11:26 PM
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You literally post this every year.
Depth in the 2010 draft sucked
Depth in the 2011 draft sucked
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Depth in the 2011 draft sucked
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Really thought 2011 was ok, not great but ok and last year sucked.

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02-06-2013, 03:53 AM
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i've always been a proponent of BPA, but it's a little surprising how many people want a D-man.

look at how our defense played without Cowen and Gonchar. look at how our offense has played without Spezza. what do you think we really need?
I 100% agree with this. We need that dynamic forward who can carry a team offensively like Spezza. Spezza turns 30 this year, therefore his prime years are winding down. We need someone to take over for him and I don't think anyone in the system can replace his intangibles.

#1 elite centre at the draft if we are in position to take one.

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02-06-2013, 07:59 AM
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Depth in the 2010 draft sucked
Depth in the 2011 draft sucked
Depth in the 2012 draft sucked
They always start out saying "20XX is going to be one of the best in years." And then 6 months before the draft, the scouts come out and say "we were wrong, there's probably 8-10 good players and the rest of the draft is mediocre." This has literally happened each of the last 4 years.

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02-06-2013, 08:24 AM
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They always start out saying "20XX is going to be one of the best in years." And then 6 months before the draft, the scouts come out and say "we were wrong, there's probably 8-10 good players and the rest of the draft is mediocre." This has literally happened each of the last 4 years.
It was the opposite last year. People were saying, "this draft sucks and it's one of the worst ever" up until maybe two months beforehand, then switched tacks and said, "okay it's not THAT bad."

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02-06-2013, 09:05 AM
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It was the opposite last year. People were saying, "this draft sucks and it's one of the worst ever" up until maybe two months beforehand, then switched tacks and said, "okay it's not THAT bad."
They said that 6 months before. But prior to the 2011 draft, people were saying "2011 isn't that great. It's RNH and then it gets weak. But wait for next year, it's really deep." 6 months later, they changed their tune. Then a month before, they switched again. 1-2 years out, scouts always think the draft is going to be really deep.

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02-06-2013, 09:50 AM
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i have this nagging feeling we're gonna end up with Max Domi.

Completely serious.
Don't make jokes. A Domi will never play in Ottawa.

Would absolutely love to get Lazar late.

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02-06-2013, 10:03 AM
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Don't make jokes. A Domi will never play in Ottawa.

Would absolutely love to get Lazar late.
Don't be so sure, there have been a few Tie Domi sittings in the past at rookie camps and practises from what I remember, there's obviously some-one in the Sens organization with ties to the Domi's.

Personally, I think it would be hilarious if we got him, might as well get Jordan Subban while were at it....hehe

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02-06-2013, 10:51 AM
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i have this nagging feeling we're gonna end up with Max Domi.

Completely serious.
I would be fine picking him anywhere after 15. I'm not sure where the hate comes from regarding him? Is it because his last name is Domi, because he is a hell of a hockey player.

Right now I think Jones is the BPA, but I believe a top line forward is of greater need.

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02-06-2013, 11:03 AM
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Depth in the 2010 draft sucked
Depth in the 2011 draft sucked
Depth in the 2012 draft sucked
How did the 2011 draft suck? Chicago is pretty happy already, having Andrew Shaw and Brandon Saad in their line up.

Its way too early to judge any of these drafts but 2011 in particular looks really strong. Lots of depth and the first round was very strong.

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02-06-2013, 02:48 PM
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Is it just me or is our US college scouting the weakest out of the rest of the scouting teams.

Only Weircioch looks to be a full time NHLer out of our entire college draftees. Compared to our CHL and Europe prospects, we havent had the same sucess at the US college route.

The only guys that have the potential to make the team is Dzingel and Sdao.

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02-06-2013, 02:54 PM
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Don't like Subban.

If he grows, then talk to me.

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02-06-2013, 03:05 PM
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Is it just me or is our US college scouting the weakest out of the rest of the scouting teams.

Only Weircioch looks to be a full time NHLer out of our entire college draftees. Compared to our CHL and Europe prospects, we havent had the same sucess at the US college route.

The only guys that have the potential to make the team is Dzingel and Sdao.
I think Winchester was a fine player who unfortunately got concussed and it seems to have ended his NHL career.

He wasn't mind blowing but he was a dependable player who would win board battles more often than not.

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02-06-2013, 03:06 PM
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Curtis Lazar will be an elite third liner. He screams a Mike Fisher clone to me.

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02-06-2013, 03:11 PM
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I think Winchester was a fine player who unfortunately got concussed and it seems to have ended his NHL career.

He wasn't mind blowing but he was a dependable player who would win board battles more often than not.
I am talking about drafted guys not signed free agents.

Boyle and Mckormic having an average season, Blood is in the ECHL, Wideman as well (we could have had Marcus Foligno just 4 picks later.

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02-06-2013, 03:17 PM
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Depth in the 2010 draft sucked
Depth in the 2011 draft sucked
Depth in the 2012 draft sucked
Only 2012 sucked.

2010 and 11 were good.

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02-06-2013, 03:43 PM
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I find it interesting that you can determine the depth of a draft only 2 years after it was done.

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02-06-2013, 04:31 PM
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I am talking about drafted guys not signed free agents.

Boyle and Mckormic having an average season, Blood is in the ECHL, Wideman as well (we could have had Marcus Foligno just 4 picks later.
You seem a little confused regarding many of these prospects. First off neither Boyle, Wiercioch, Dzingel, Sdao, Blood or McCormick were drafted out of college. Only Wideman was. They were playing in the American junior system (USHL). The USNTDP plays in this league and often plays college teams so maybe that's why you're confusing junior and college.

Furthermore Wideman and Blood have been playing in the Ahl. I believe Widman only played 4 games with Elmira. He's looked very capable in the games I've seen but is a long shot like any other guy drafted where he was.

The USHL is very much a frontier right now for the scouting community. It's difficult to project where players from that league stack up against CHL and Swedish players given the quality of competition they face. The guys you're complaining about are long term projects and late round picks. The only guy who should be expected to make it to the NHL is wiercioch and he's there, looking like a quality pick in the second round.

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02-08-2013, 05:35 PM
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Been thinking that if we do go with a d-man, hopefully we take a guy that can really skate. Not saying we need another Karlsson like skater, but everyone on our backend if pretty slow except Erik. Cowen is kinda slow and Ceci isn't the most fleet footed guy either.

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02-08-2013, 07:38 PM
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Is it just me or is our US college scouting the weakest out of the rest of the scouting teams.

Only Weircioch looks to be a full time NHLer out of our entire college draftees. Compared to our CHL and Europe prospects, we havent had the same sucess at the US college route.

The only guys that have the potential to make the team is Dzingel and Sdao.
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Wiercioch
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and then their are the guys Murray has signed from the NCAA. There are also a few before Murray, Eaves comes to mind.

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Is it just me or is our US college scouting the weakest out of the rest of the scouting teams.

Only Weircioch looks to be a full time NHLer out of our entire college draftees. Compared to our CHL and Europe prospects, we havent had the same sucess at the US college route.

The only guys that have the potential to make the team is Dzingel and Sdao.
We draft college players in later rounds because you hold their rights longer and can develop their weaknesses longer. We rarely go high for college guys and the guy we did appears to be turning out well. As a while drafting has been good. There aren't any problrms.

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Been thinking that if we do go with a d-man, hopefully we take a guy that can really skate. Not saying we need another Karlsson like skater, but everyone on our backend if pretty slow except Erik. Cowen is kinda slow and Ceci isn't the most fleet footed guy either.
How is Cowen slow?

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i have this nagging feeling we're gonna end up with Max Domi.

Completely serious.
Max Domi would be a really solid pick if we end up picking in the mid-to-late first round. Aside from Domi is we are picking fairly late I would also be interested in drafting Kerby Rychel, Curtis Lazar and Ryan Hartman.

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What about Anthony Mantha LW, he seems to have that size & skill combination I like & he has 72 pts including 40 goals & a +16 in 50 games? Could be a Michalek replacement down the road. Not sure where Ottawa will pick but he could be in their ball park. Also Frederick Gauthier C, anybody know anything about him other than he is huge? He also seems to have some good offensive numbers, maybe like Couturier he is a guy who could eventually start on the 4th & work his way up.

On defence Rasmus Ristolainen RD plays the right side & has decent size. No nothing about him except he seems to be slipping in the rankings but still listed as a 1st rder & could be around where Ottawa could be picking.

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